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Re: B A G S E E D CFl Grow. Mini Cab/Closet Grow []D [] []\/[] []D [] []\[].. [Re: critik]
    #457222 - 08/09/10 10:26 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

feeding is easy as pie, although many people like to make it more complicated than it is. The main nutrients a plant needs are n, or nitrogen, p, or phosphorus, and k, or potassium. Nitrogen is for healthy stem and leaf growth, phosphorus is for root and flower development, and potassium is to help fight disease and improves the overall health of the plant. A lot of people differ on the exact ratio of n, p and k to feed your plants at different stages in their development, but a good rule of thumb is to remember that during the sprout stage, you should really lay off giving them any nutrients. Once the sprout enters vegetative growth like your plants are in right now, you should use a nutrient solution with a higher amount of nitrogen than p and k, although the p and k are still very important to your plants development. I would use a nutrient solution with a 20 nitrogen, 10 phosphorus, and 10 potassium ratio. this 20-10-10 ratio with ensure your plant starts to develop healthy and strong upper growth. Once you decide to flower your plants (I hope you wait at least until its 12 inches) you should change to a 10-20-10 ratio. Now, keep in mind there are many different ratios that will work for your plants, just remember  that plants need higher n while in vegetative growth and higher p while fruiting. You will also need trace minerals which are minerals like copper, magnesium, manganese, iron, zinc, calcium etc, with the most important being magnesium in my opinion. The best way to deliver this is to mix in a tablespoon for every gallon of water. This is all you need to know about feeding your plants. A couple things to remember are that you need to keep your ph level in your soil at a neutral level, which is a 7.0. To achieve this you can buy ph up and down to level your ph. This is important because if your ph is too high it will turn your nutrients into salts that are toxic to your plants and if you let it get bad enough it will kill them. Although you can fix this problem with flushing, which is basically pouring tons of water into your plants soil until you have eliminated all the salts, this can be very harmful to the plant. Another very important thing to remember is to only feed your plants HALF OR LESS of the amount of nutrients that is recommended on the container it came with. This is because marijuana plants are very sensitive and can get nutrient burn very easily. You can point out nutrient burn when the edges of your leaves are turning yellow. Good luck.


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    #457323 - 08/09/10 01:37 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thanx for all the info Since this is my real First grow I am just going to use some Schultz To feed cause this is only Bagseed But With Schultz I here you put 7 drops per Quart of water Now When I add this to my water(I am going to start with like Not even Half Strength)I am going to have left over water Right? I don't need to use all of it to get the full 7 drops do I?(or How ever many drops I used).I only feed My plant maybe a half cup of water every 2 days.


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    #457373 - 08/09/10 05:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

what is your watt per square foot ratio?


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    #457400 - 08/09/10 07:08 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Ughh well in this little cab I am vegging in it has lets see 2 23 watt 5000k lights its about a foot in height A foot in length and 9 inches in width.

Not sure How to answer your Question but I am sure you can figure it out With those dimensions. (Don't Know how to measure Per square Foot) :sad:


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    #457403 - 08/09/10 07:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Thanx for all the info Since this is my real First grow I am just going to use some Schultz To feed cause this is only Bagseed But With Schultz I here you put 7 drops per Quart of water Now When I add this to my water(I am going to start with like Not even Half Strength)I am going to have left over water Right? I don't need to use all of it to get the full 7 drops do I?(or How ever many drops I used).I only feed My plant maybe a half cup of water every 2 days.



I have schultz. It should say 10-15-10 on the side which means its geared more towards blooming. It will still work for vegetative growth. Just use about three drops instead of 7 for every quart of water. I would just premix the water you are going to feed them and have it closed off in a tub with a lid. This way you dont have to scramble your brain with all these different measurements and its way easier. Make sure your soil feels light and dry before you water your plants. Don't let it stay dry for a long time though. It's easier to overwater your plants than it is to dehydrate them.


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    #457407 - 08/09/10 07:33 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Thanx So The water won't like go bad or become toxic from letting it sit for a long time in a big tub? or container?(premixed).

I think I got the whole watering thing down every 2 days this plant will drink... After I water it seems to wilt then jump up after a while.


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    #457408 - 08/09/10 07:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Ughh well in this little cab I am vegging in it has lets see 2 23 watt 5000k lights its about a foot in height A foot in length and 9 inches in width.

Not sure How to answer your Question but I am sure you can figure it out With those dimensions. (Don't Know how to measure Per square Foot) :sad:



Divide your wattage by your square feet. If you are growing in a room that has 4 square feet worth of plants, 1 square foot per plant(maybe a sog closet grow) then those 2 23 watt lights will give you (23+23=46 divided by 4 is 11 1/2 watts per square feet)11/ 1/2 watts per square feet. 30 is the number to be shooting for, 50 if youre a champion.


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    #457409 - 08/09/10 07:35 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Just watered it BTW


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    #457410 - 08/09/10 07:36 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Thanx So The water won't like go bad or become toxic from letting it sit for a long time in a big tub? or container?(premixed).

I think I got the whole watering thing down every 2 days this plant will drink... After I water it seems to wilt then jump up after a while.



No, keep the PH of your water neutral or as close to neutral as you can get and you will not have a problem with salt buildup.


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    #457411 - 08/09/10 07:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Just watered it BTW



k, make sure you post pics to see how the nutes are workin for em. I'm really gettin into this grow log lol.


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    #457415 - 08/09/10 07:48 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I haven't used the Schultz yet not tomorrow but the next day I Will. I really need some PH up And down. The ph of the runoff is supposedly 6.0 according to this Fish tank Ph tester. And Once I mix the schultz in with the water Will I need to add some Ph up/down to make it neutral?


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    #457419 - 08/09/10 08:12 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

no, your soil is at the perfect PH and adding an alkaline or an acid right now will only fuck it up. Only add ph up or down when you need your ph to go up or down lol. once your ph meter reads below 6.0 add some ph up. When it goes above add some ph down. Try not to be so nervous. Marijuana is very versatile and you will not fuck it up.


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    #457420 - 08/09/10 08:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Trueeee Cant wait to start the Blue Cheese And ROCKLOCK :evil:


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    #457421 - 08/09/10 08:14 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

But I gotta say Idk if I am feeling this SCotts Premium Potting soil.


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    #457422 - 08/09/10 08:20 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Never heard of it before. Just remember when youre shopping for soils look for something that has a level ph (6.0) and little or no starting nutrients. I say this because you are going to add your own nutrients anyway and if you are going to pot saplings or germinate seeds in this soil then the nutrients might hurt more than help.


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    #457427 - 08/09/10 08:26 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I always germ using the paper towel method its always worked never failed me. But this Scotts stuff has a NPK of 0.07-0.01-0.03


If you look back in the post I was having problems with my leafs. My first set of fan leafs both curled under and the tips did a complete loop down like a rams horn. Then My first leafs like burnt. Its a unsolved mystery I don't know what happen neither does any one else.

If you want pics of the previous problems with this plant just ask Ill show you. But it seems to be doing fine now. This was all in the first week and a half


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    #457429 - 08/09/10 08:27 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

And this Soil has a ton of sticks pieces or bark and just a lot of junk. But I guess it helps idk.


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    #457436 - 08/09/10 08:38 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Its over watering dude. Over watering is characterized by drooping leaves and yellowing on various parts of the leaves, usually the edges. It cant be heat burn as this only takes place on the leaves closest to the light, and its not nutrient burn as your soil does not contain enough nutrients to burn them. Your plants dont look in bad shape though so I wouldnt be worried at all. I might just be a little more lax on my watering schedule.


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    #457440 - 08/09/10 08:42 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

They seem to love the water I give them now but back before I guess not but See the first leafs stayed in shape just one got all crispy at the tip as you can see in the first picture then the first set of fan leafs did the whole rolling under thing.


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    #457444 - 08/09/10 08:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

now that i look at the first picture it could be heat burn actually since the leaf that its on seems to be the highest one up. Your leaves do look a little droopy but they look healthy as hell so i wouldnt be worried.


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