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    #411163 - 05/03/10 07:09 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411166 - 05/03/10 07:10 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

10 pack of sweetest cindy 99 :thumbup:


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    #411171 - 05/03/10 07:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411173 - 05/03/10 07:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411176 - 05/03/10 07:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You have any more info on that one?

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411243 - 05/03/10 08:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

good choice but why not pineapple express? or g13? i assume your buying from attitude? great place and stealth!

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: SalviaNshrooms9090]
    #411246 - 05/03/10 08:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

and i love their auto ak47! from lowlife! im growing it right now its expensive seeds but worth it since its an autoflower only takes 70 days from seed to finish! and really potent stuff and great yeilder for an auto thats what ive read and shall see in time lol

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: SalviaNshrooms9090]
    #411252 - 05/03/10 08:32 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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good choice but why not pineapple express? or g13? i assume your buying from attitude? great place and stealth!




PE from G13 labs is a ripoff


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411255 - 05/03/10 08:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

really? how so?

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: SalviaNshrooms9090]
    #411261 - 05/03/10 08:42 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

read the pedigree from them, they basically say "We have no clue where this came from or who the parent plants are, but you should just trust us that it's good."

Who honestly has seeds and they have no idea where it came from? bullshit in my opinion


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: SalviaNshrooms9090]
    #411263 - 05/03/10 08:44 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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and i love their auto ak47! from lowlife!





I've grown this. Great Smoke.  Was only able to get 7 to 14 grams per plant.


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    #411267 - 05/03/10 08:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411268 - 05/03/10 08:50 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

lol have you ever watched the movie pineapple express?

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: SalviaNshrooms9090]
    #411269 - 05/03/10 08:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

yeah female seeds are pretty much a rip off. "unless grown in perfect condition blah blah"

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: SalviaNshrooms9090]
    #411278 - 05/03/10 09:15 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Female seeds the company or female seeds in general? Because I know good female seeds can be made. I just hope "female seeds" is a comapny that makes them at least decent.
I dont mind a few nanners here and there. If you smoked the crappy weed I had to smoke because of costs I cannot afford, you wouldnt either! :p I also just picked up some TH Seed mk ultra, seedsman white widow and a free the church.

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411281 - 05/03/10 09:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

im just saying people on here advised me against buying female seeds and ignored them and did it anyway and bought good fem seeds and got a male so far...

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: SalviaNshrooms9090]
    #411283 - 05/03/10 09:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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lol have you ever watched the movie pineapple express?




Lol of course!  Just for the record, the PE I grew in my signature was NOT from G13 labs.

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yeah female seeds are pretty much a rip off. "unless grown in perfect condition blah blah"




That's not necessarily true, it really depends on the method used. If they used hermie plants to make the seeds (greenhouse seed co does this) then the offspring will most likely be hermies. There are methods however that produce feminized seeds without the risk of hermie seeds. Magash uses colloidal silver, search out some of his posts if you're curious, he's really got the science down.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411299 - 05/03/10 09:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, basically do some work and dont use stressed out hermy plants to breed with. Stress out many plants using nutes,light,etc etc..anything that turns hermy....KILL. I read up on how magash feels about female seeds being made and it just...makes sense! Hopefully female seeds company does it the right way, or at least close to it!

So, I have on the way
widowrella
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TH Seeds MK ultra
seedman white widow
and a free "the church" (Prolly not even gonna use this seeing as how green house seeds makes their fem'd beans. Prolly gonna run 3 widowrellas and 2 master kush. Gotta save room for some very special babies I am expecting soon!

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411374 - 05/03/10 10:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

ooo, MK ultra :thumbup:


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411381 - 05/03/10 11:10 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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10 pack of sweetest cindy 99 :thumbup:




I have grown it back in the day and HIGHLY suggest it.

Good suggestion Harry man

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #411400 - 05/04/10 12:05 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I've got 10 right now that I can't wait to pop and pick :grin:


Oh yeah..... I think you were gone for this.... http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/403527#403527


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411403 - 05/04/10 12:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The female seeds company does do it the right way. Lots of testing and keeping track of their work. They are one of the few companies that believe that the first plants to turn hermie are not the first ones to be used for making female seeds. (A-la Soma Seeds)


Master Kush and MK Ultra have been strains that have treated me well in the past. :wink:


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Magash]
    #411482 - 05/04/10 07:29 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Thats good to hear! :laugh:

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411491 - 05/04/10 08:12 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I'm looking at MK Ultra for the next grow too.. Looks very tasty.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: DieselB]
    #411498 - 05/04/10 08:47 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Order from attitude is apparently dispatched and gypsys is in packing. Pretty fast updates!
Waiting to order from the doc as soon as magashs beans are stocked up there! This is the first time I have ordered from anyone but the doc before. Hope everything is as smooth as it was with doc!

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #411541 - 05/04/10 10:41 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Anyone with Magash genetics is a lucky bastard.  :wink:

I can't wait to see how this one plant from him does this year outside.  It could easily be over 10 feet come harvest time, as this pheno likes to stretch slightly more than my other Indicas.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411700 - 05/04/10 03:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The PE from G13 happens to be really good, in regards to potency, taste and smell.  I got it as a freebie several months about a year ago and it has turned into one of my favorites.  i don't know where you got yours Harry but mine looks EXACTLY like yours, except maybe a little more frosty...

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: dutc2006]
    #411712 - 05/04/10 03:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

yours turned out frostier than this? I'm impressed




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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411796 - 05/04/10 05:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

That is indeed frosty, and doesn't even look to be of full maturity, or was an undergrowth bud.

It's not all about trich coverage though, unless you are purely a salesman.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #411798 - 05/04/10 05:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yep, those were undergrowth buds for sure.  I agree with you though, trich coverage doesn't always directly relate to potency, although it certainly doesn't hurt


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #411801 - 05/04/10 05:34 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

No you are totally right, especially if you make bubble with your trimmings like me...  I've begun to form a soft spot for full melt!


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #412006 - 05/04/10 08:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, I figured that would get a rise out of you.  It's not that I really think mine is any better but that I'm just calling your bluff on talking out the side of your neck.  Unless you have tried G13s PE then you saying it is a ripoff is just you speculating, and I am assuming you haven't tried it or I'm sure you wouldn't say it is a ripoff.  Really, who cares the lineage of a plant if it is good? Albeit a lame marketing ploy in my eyes, it won't lead me to believe the strain is garbage. Also, other vendors offering similarly named products or their version of PE are usually close in price to the G13 version so again I am assuming it isn't strictly cost you are referring to...

Also, when you have a label that will lead the unsuspecting newcomer to this site to take your word as gospel, it seems like a lack of tact to say something so harsh.  I'm just kinda getting turned off by all the things I see so called Trusted Cultivators saying that I know to be completely false.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: dutc2006]
    #412023 - 05/04/10 08:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry, no offense, but Harry's still looks frostier.. Your buds destroy harder after you make TC. :shrug:


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: dutc2006]
    #412026 - 05/04/10 08:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't tried it personally, but I've done my fair share of reading on it. I'm willing to speculate that you got lucky on the genetics in your particular package, or perhaps are a much more talented grower than the majority of the people on the internet, but it's hardly talking out the side of my neck (:wtf: does that even mean?) to say that I think it's BS to say they have no idea where the seeds came from. They're a professional seed bank and saying that they have random mystery seeds is their way of just getting rid of their extras without needing to pay attention to the label.  In my opinion calling it a ripoff is not harsh, If you're dropping anywhere from $50-$100 on only 10 seeds I expect that company to be as honest as possible with the lineage of that line.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #412029 - 05/04/10 08:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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read the pedigree from them, they basically say "We have no clue where this came from or who the parent plants are, but you should just trust us that it's good."

Who honestly has seeds and they have no idea where it came from? bullshit in my opinion




They also use pictures of other strains posted by random growers on the internet.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #412037 - 05/04/10 08:28 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Yep, those were undergrowth buds for sure.  I agree with you though, trich coverage doesn't always directly relate to potency, although it certainly doesn't hurt




Trichome coverage on haze hybrids > all.

Neville's Haze is a monster for trich coverage but I don't like comparing pictures or fresh weed to dry shots as they change with lighting and as they dry. Some strains seem to be moderate producers when they're on the plant but when they dry they look as frosty as possible. Lighting is also a huge deal with trichome appearance. Magash explained that TGA seeds produce mediocre weed but have good pictures because of their use of lighting and reflective material/color.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412061 - 05/04/10 08:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Funny you say that koons because the only plant that I've ever grown with Haze in it actually had the most frost of any plant I've ever grown.  Too bad they were light yielders.

I should start some more and give em another shot...


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #412119 - 05/04/10 09:36 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Funny you say that koons because the only plant that I've ever grown with Haze in it actually had the most frost of any plant I've ever grown.  Too bad they were light yielders.

I should start some more and give em another shot...




I also find hazes to be very potent and enjoyable.

I don't think Hazes are low yielding. First off I think that Hazes have quality that can rival anything around most people who like sativa love haze so the quality can compete with some of the most expensive strains if you know the right people. Also the harvest time yield is usually top notch, most haze hybrids will yield as much as anything else but the finish time is possibly an extra 6-8weeks.

I have a Neville's Haze that can go 120 days, I was asking Magash about what I can cross to it to achieve pure sativa effect and lower the flowering time. I'm going to be growing out some African, Thai, and may try finding a trainwreck representation in seed form. I hear that Head has a good trainwreck that will be available in seed this spring sometime.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412123 - 05/04/10 09:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I have Neville's Haze x Jack Herer that will be coming through next round.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: DieselB]
    #412125 - 05/04/10 09:40 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, I want to grow Jack Herer and Marley's Collie from seed but I'm scared because of things I've been hearing about germination rates.

I've heard that Sensi is deleting complaints from their forum and ignoring growers who complain via email.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412130 - 05/04/10 09:44 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Wow that's a real bummer to hear. Jack Herrer has been on my list for quite some time, that makes me really sad that they don't give a shit about the quality.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412133 - 05/04/10 09:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, thats fucking spectacular, remind me not to deal with them. What is Marley's Collie?


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #412137 - 05/04/10 09:48 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Wow that's a real bummer to hear. Jack Herrer has been on my list for quite some time, that makes me really sad that they don't give a shit about the quality.




Again I don't know if it's true or not. It's just what I hear but I don't want to spend $200 or something to find out.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: DieselB]
    #412141 - 05/04/10 09:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Wow, thats fucking spectacular, remind me not to deal with them. What is Marley's Collie?




Again, I don't know this to be fact. It's only what I hear.

Marley's Collie is a hybrid of secret genetics. It includes Maple Leaf Indica or something related to it and Jamaican genetics. I smoked some a while ago and the smoke was tasty with a sativa high and just enough indica to give some body sensation. I was on acid when I smoked Marley's Collie first and I recall feeling very good each breath I took and my skin had a nice warm glow. I'm sure it's very excellent weed without being on lsd though.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412177 - 05/04/10 10:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

When I say it was a light yielder it was of my own fault, not the genetics.

If I grew it proper, now that I know how much stretch they can really have, I'm sure I could make a decent run of them, and they actually flowered in a relatively fast time for a Haze hybrid...


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #412192 - 05/04/10 10:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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When I say it was a light yielder it was of my own fault, not the genetics.

If I grew it proper, now that I know how much stretch they can really have, I'm sure I could make a decent run of them, and they actually flowered in a relatively fast time for a Haze hybrid...




It depends how dominant the haze is. Hybrids generally flower quickly(in comparison). Neville Haze which is 75% haze 25% NL takes 90-120 days. Pure Haze expression is definitely 120+ days, my friend grows a pure sativa pheno of Neville's Haze and wants to take her past 120 days next time.

A haze hybrid could technically grow like a indica, there's SuperSilverHaze phenos that grow a single cola and finish in 9weeks.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412244 - 05/05/10 12:01 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hell yeah, thanks for the info as I haven't researched a TON on Haze's like I have other strains.  I knew most of that but seeing it again in front of my face and having the seeds in the drawer next to me gives me some inspiration to try them out again.  Why not, I have unlimited space outdoors, and can initiate flowering early so that they finish in time...


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #412245 - 05/05/10 12:02 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

What strain? Do you know?


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412246 - 05/05/10 12:04 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Well actually I'm about 90% sure it's Chrystal that got mixed in with the purple haze.  It's an f1 obviously.  My friend accidentally pollinated his crop...  :lol:  I got a great product from them though.  I just grew them like a retard because I was basically just getting warmed up to growing again.  (took a break for a year})


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #412247 - 05/05/10 12:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I found a few pictures of it.  Not very good pictures, and I DEFINITELY grew them like a noob, cuz I was going through some shit at the time but yeah, at least you can get an idea of how frosty they were...

     


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #412249 - 05/05/10 12:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I wonder what makes the purple haze.

I'm going to grow SSH/Mango haze in June to hopefully be my winter stash.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412251 - 05/05/10 12:10 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I still have some Thai Haze Skunk beans I haven't tried yet. Any idea how those might be?


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412252 - 05/05/10 12:11 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

206 gifted me some f1's of his (G13 x Haze) x Mango.  I'm doing one as a huge bush outdoors and I'm on the first days of 12/12 with another pheno of it.  It's super short like the Mango, but has super skinny leaves and branching like the Haze... Very awesome.  I can't wait to see how the final product is.  maybe a clone is worth keeping...


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #412269 - 05/05/10 12:48 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I still have some Thai Haze Skunk beans I haven't tried yet. Any idea how those might be?




I abandoned growing these but I've seen pictures and they were nice, purple is fairly common without mentionably low temperatures. I was discouraged because Sam the Skunkman himself said that they have intersex traits and when they flower for 14+ weeks I just can't tolerate that. That basically puts two crops at risk of accidental pollination.


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Inverted]
    #412304 - 05/05/10 03:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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10 pack of sweetest cindy 99 :thumbup:




I have grown it back in the day and HIGHLY suggest it.

Good suggestion Harry man

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: captain.koons]
    #412395 - 05/05/10 09:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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I still have some Thai Haze Skunk beans I haven't tried yet. Any idea how those might be?




I abandoned growing these but I've seen pictures and they were nice, purple is fairly common without mentionably low temperatures. I was discouraged because Sam the Skunkman himself said that they have intersex traits and when they flower for 14+ weeks I just can't tolerate that. That basically puts two crops at risk of accidental pollination.





Agreed, I've heard reports of some plants going 20+ weeks and that would honestly just kill me. Maybe I'll take them to a dispensary and trade them for some other seeds :lol:


Inverted- (G13 x haze) x Mango sounds fucking tasty.... can't wait to see how those grow out


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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #412399 - 05/05/10 09:29 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Damnit, now I want sweetest cindy 99 and LUI13! And I cant even grow right now until I find out what is going on with the inlaws who may be staying with me for a few months. This is killing me! I spent so much of my budget on all the stuff I needed its either buy some green or seeds! Having all this stuff right here and not being able to do anything with it is killing me!

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Re: Got 100 beans to spend on beans, what do you suggest? [Re: brifunforme]
    #413380 - 05/07/10 07:41 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

K, Now Im pretty sure my 100 jumped up a little bit. I am going to get sweetest cindy99 and warlock. But lifesaver is screaming at me! But I think the SC99 is probably a more stable strain.

And I plan on keeping males of both warlock and sc99 and making seeds of warlock, sc99, and a cross of both. SO I have stock of my seeds in case I lose clones or anything. I will also probably send any overstock to GN,and doc to send out as freebies. But thats in the future and not absolutely positive. But I will inform everyone if I do send any of the seeds out to either of them.

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