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 Bongs reduce your high 
#393219 - 03/31/10 02:27 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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I always thought bongs got you higher and were better for you.
http://www.canorml.org/healthfacts/smokestudy.html
I stumbled across this today and the article asserts that bongs actually filter THC more than the other shit that it should be filtering out instead. Fucking a. I love smoking bongs, but quiet honestly, I've sort of noticed this myself. Joints get me higher(edit - what I meant was, I have to use less pot if I smoke a J to get where I want to be, than I would out of a bong.) This article has ruined my fucking day. I love my bong. Now I discover it doesn't love me. Fuck.
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Disappointingly, waterpipes performed uniformly worse than the unfiltered joint. The least bad waterpipe, the bong, produced 30% more tar per cannabinoids than the unfiltered joint. Ironically, the pipe with the electric mixer scored by far the worst of any device. This suggests that water filtration is actually counterproductive, apparently because water tends to absorb THC more readily than other, noxious tars.
It is time to get that vape I've been wanting... that's all I can say.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393223 - 03/31/10 02:29 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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tl;dr - but I thought THC wasn't water soluble so how would it filter out THC?
And I've always gotten much higher from 5 bong hits than 5 blunt hits.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: RasJeph]
#393225 - 03/31/10 02:31 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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if you're sober a bong will NOT reduce your high. just FYI.
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Bongs subjectivly get me higher usually.
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day. 
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RasJeph said:
tl;dr - but I thought THC wasn't water soluble so how would it filter out THC?
I have the same question. I suppose if THC was completely water soluble a bong would not do shit to you. So by that logic, I guess THC is kinda-sorta-not really water soluble.
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RasJeph said:And I've always gotten much higher from 5 bong hits than 5 blunt hits.
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GetTheFuckOut said:
if you're sober a bong will NOT reduce your high. just FYI.
Thanks man.
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THEBats said:
Bongs subjectivly get me higher usually.
They get me higher too, but I have to smoke more than I would if I were smokin a J. 
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393231 - 03/31/10 02:40 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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always happy to help!
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always happy to help!
Yo bro btw, I see the justice now. Doesn't feelsogoodman for feelsgoodman now lol.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393237 - 03/31/10 02:46 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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We've discussed this article here before. Here were my thoughts on it;
A joint contains more active alkaloids per unit volume than a bong. However, bongs cool the smoke and allow you to take significantly larger hits, which in turn get's you higher per inhalation. It's really a matter of your measurement system for which one gets you higher. I'd be more interested in which one delivers more THC into your lungs per gram of material combusted
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
We've discussed this article here before. Here were my thoughts on it;
A joint contains more active alkaloids per unit volume than a bong. However, bongs cool the smoke and allow you to take significantly larger hits, which in turn get's you higher per inhalation. It's really a matter of your measurement system for which one gets you higher. I'd be more interested in which one delivers more THC into your lungs per gram of material combusted
Oh sorry. I always search the forums before asking a question in the cult forums but lol, I guess I should use the search feature a little more frequently in other forums as well.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393248 - 03/31/10 02:59 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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nah, it was a long time ago, I'm curious to see if the views of the community have changed in any way since then.
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Even though there may not be a "filter" on a joint or blunt, the smoke actually does get filtered by getting pulled through the rest of the material thats not currently burning, thats why they get all resin'y at the end. While it may not be an efficent filter up to whatever standard, I understand how less tar may be passed opposed to the bong..
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393257 - 03/31/10 03:26 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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RasJeph said:And I've always gotten much higher from 5 bong hits than 5 blunt hits.
How frequently do you smoke?
Daily
I think it was mentioned ^ by someone, but maybe its because I can take bigger hits from my bong than I can from a blunt. I have 0 nicotine tolerance. I can't even smoke a cigarette without coughing. So, maybe thats why.
Interesting at the very least :]
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
We've discussed this article here before. Here were my thoughts on it;
A joint contains more active alkaloids per unit volume than a bong. However, bongs cool the smoke and allow you to take significantly larger hits, which in turn get's you higher per inhalation. It's really a matter of your measurement system for which one gets you higher. I'd be more interested in which one delivers more THC into your lungs per gram of material combusted
Oh sorry. I always search the forums before asking a question in the cult forums but lol, I guess I should use the search feature a little more frequently in other forums as well.
https://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/285762
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: RasJeph]
#393291 - 03/31/10 03:42 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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RasJeph said:And I've always gotten much higher from 5 bong hits than 5 blunt hits.
How frequently do you smoke?
Daily
I think it was mentioned ^ by someone, but maybe its because I can take bigger hits from my bong than I can from a blunt. I have 0 nicotine tolerance. I can't even smoke a cigarette without coughing. So, maybe thats why.
Interesting at the very least :]
Yeah me too. I haven't smoked a J in a while though and honestly thinking about this a little bit, I'm not so sure about my statement I made earlier. I can't help but feel I use more bud with the bong though.
Oh well... 
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: RasJeph]
#393311 - 03/31/10 03:59 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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tl;dr - but I thought THC wasn't water soluble so how would it filter out THC?
And I've always gotten much higher from 5 bong hits than 5 blunt hits.
because you get smaller hits from a blunt instead of a bong hit.
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because you get smaller hits from a blunt instead of a bong hit.
i would say i get a fatter hit from a blunt than a bong, but then again its all personal preference really
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393353 - 03/31/10 05:14 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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Bongs subjectivly get me higher usually.
Ever since my first smoke of a joint all they've done is mellow me a bit. I absolutely love the bong, to me there's nothing that does it like a bong.
I love the whole process on my lungs a lot more than a pipe or join that for sure.
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The ultimate test: smoke a gram out of the bong and later smoke a gram blunt/joint.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: GnarlyGoods]
#393357 - 03/31/10 05:15 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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because you get smaller hits from a blunt instead of a bong hit.
i would say i get a fatter hit from a blunt than a bong, but then again its all personal preference really
Wow, is your bong the size of a bic or something?
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
We've discussed this article here before. Here were my thoughts on it;
A joint contains more active alkaloids per unit volume than a bong. However, bongs cool the smoke and allow you to take significantly larger hits, which in turn get's you higher per inhalation. It's really a matter of your measurement system for which one gets you higher. I'd be more interested in which one delivers more THC into your lungs per gram of material combusted
I have to agree with this. If i put the same amount of weed into a joint that I do my bong, it would be the size of a toothpick. Out of all the types of pipes I've used, my favorite remains the bong. As much as I like my volcano, if i had a choice it would be my trusty little bong I've had for a good while.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: ChillWillis]
#393364 - 03/31/10 05:28 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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The ultimate test: smoke a gram out of the bong and later smoke a gram blunt/joint.
Not scientifically accurate by any means, but certainly ranks high on the  -o-meter
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I'm terrible at rolling  I always cheat and use a pen or something, and then pack it in after I have a shell.
I feel like I use a lot more weed in a blunt or joint than I do from a bong. But then again, I don't usually just pack one bowl in my bong, so I'm not sure.
We need to do some experiments guys. In the name of science.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: RasJeph]
#393440 - 03/31/10 08:24 PM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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I didn't read any of the posts in this thread, but I know for a fact that Bongs are among the most inefficient smoking method. The simple fact that you can take more matter in a single hit gets you "higher" but you are also consuming much more out of your stash to achieve that high.
I get MUCH higher smoking a small bowl, than if I used that same amount of weed and smoked it through the bong.
There is a simple way to test this, and it's basically how I smoke all day every day. I have a hybrid hookah/bong (pics later if I find them quick), and a One-Hitter. I wrapped rubber bands around the one hitter so that it effectively seals in the bong female tube as if it were a slide.
I will use the same weed, and a clean sober palate for each test. Since I can only fit one hit in my onie, it makes for a good control. If I pack it, and smoke it through the bong, sure I can take it easier because it's water-cooled, but I just don't get a rocking high unless I pack a few. If I pack that same weed in the one hitter the next morning, and smoke it as is (not through the bong) I feel as if I get much higher and don't need as many onies. I usually get by with just one or two, whereas if I put the onie in the binger I would have to smoke at least 2, usually 3.
I've put this to the test literally hundreds of times because I've always wondered why bongs are the absolute shit. Yes they allow you to get higher, simply because you can take larger cooler rips, but you are also burning up at least 2-3x as much weed per hit, which will obviously make you feel like it's the bong getting you higher, but everything needs to be put into perspective to accurately rate a certain smoking method.
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Yeeah I know but a person was the only method of testing thc smoke [ ]'s I could think of
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: Inverted]
#393587 - 04/01/10 12:15 AM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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Inverted said:
I didn't read any of the posts in this thread, but I know for a fact that Bongs are among the most inefficient smoking method. The simple fact that you can take more matter in a single hit gets you "higher" but you are also consuming much more out of your stash to achieve that high.
This is my experience as well.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393597 - 04/01/10 12:35 AM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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I Bongs, heres mine:
If you have dank weed you'l be surprised how high you can get with a good bong and little amount. as for the thc filtered into water its bs
thc is not soluble in water.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393616 - 04/01/10 02:46 AM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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Don't sweat it Spency. This test was done before 1976 when most testing methods were pretty much shit anyway. In fact in the article it says that one way to reduce the tar in your lungs is to smoke high potency pot. Well what were they testing then?
Your bong will do ya up just fine. 
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 Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: TomCollins]
#393618 - 04/01/10 03:16 AM (14 years, 22 days ago) |
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Yeah, I've heard that same argument before, with the joints-get-you-higher claim, that it contains the most THC....
I see joints as being inefficient because of that burning tip that's always burning up your weed, even when you're not hitting it (and pieces falling out of the joint).
Bongs do that too, but since you can put as little or as much as you want, you can make 1-hit bowls and not waste weed to the "runaway effect" of the lit cherry (that's what I call it).
And with Bongs, your hits are contained in a small space, instead of the constant, uncontained tip-burning of joints.
As for the "Bong hits have more tar than joints", I'm calling BS on that one. I need some explanation on that: how could water be worst at filtering than thin paper? Makes no sense.
But one advantage of water bongs is that it dissolves nasty gases (mostly from the lighter) in the water, something joints cannot do. This makes it slighly more healthier to smoke, and if you have a Solar Lighter (aka, a huge magnifying glass), then its practically the cleanest hit since Digital Vapo's....
At least, that's my understand....
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Yeah, I've heard that same argument before, with the joints-get-you-higher claim, that it contains the most THC....
1 - I see joints as being inefficient because of that burning tip that's always burning up your weed, even when you're not hitting it (and pieces falling out of the joint).
2 - Bongs do that too, but since you can put as little or as much as you want, you can make 1-hit bowls and not waste weed to the "runaway effect" of the lit cherry (that's what I call it).
3 - And with Bongs, your hits are contained in a small space, instead of the constant, uncontained tip-burning of joints.
4 - As for the "Bong hits have more tar than joints", I'm calling BS on that one. I need some explanation on that: how could water be worst at filtering than thin paper? Makes no sense.
5 - But one advantage of water bongs is that it dissolves nasty gases (mostly from the lighter) in the water, something joints cannot do. This makes it slighly more healthier to smoke, and if you have a Solar Lighter (aka, a huge magnifying glass), then its practically the cleanest hit since Digital Vapo's....
At least, that's my understand....
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1.) If you think about it not very much weed gets burnt when you're not smoking a joint, and it's not like if you take a hit from a fully packed bong that doesn't stay cherried too. And with the joint you can put it out when you're done smoking it and resume later if the hits get too long in between hits. AND as you smoke it down the bud gets more and more resinous.
2.) If you pack individual hits into a bong, yes, you're being more efficient but I bet you that you'll wind up not getting as high because you don't smoke as much this way usually. Also you have to re-pack the bowl over and over the joint chills out and waits for you to take another toke.
3.) Same as 1
4.) I agree
5.) You only light a joint once (ideally)
just playin devil's advocate for fun 
Also something that always comes into my mind when I'm vaping but surely also applies to bongs: What is the rate at which your lungs can extract THC from a hit? As in, at what point does a huge hit turn into a huge waste of unabsorbed THC?
It may be that if you're taking huge rips off your bong/vape and 40% of the THC may be getting exhaled before you even abosorb it in your lungs.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: ChillWillis]
#394440 - 04/02/10 06:54 AM (14 years, 20 days ago) |
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Screw what that research says man, you love your bong, and you smoke it everyday because it gets you high!
Just imagine if you never read this artical, you would probably be smoking a cone right now and loving it.
I started out smoking J's, then went onto the pipe's before graduating the smoking the bill' and I love my bong now, its one of my closest friends in the world.
Treat your bong well, keep him/her clean and always remember to love it.
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Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: T-Rex]
#394442 - 04/02/10 07:44 AM (14 years, 20 days ago) |
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If bonghits are wrong I don't wanna be right!
Same with joints, actually.
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 Re: Bongs reduce your high [Re: Nothing Is]
#394743 - 04/02/10 06:10 PM (14 years, 20 days ago) |
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Totally agree with that!
Besides, inhaling *any* smoke of any kind is "not right" (health wise), so why not do the ultra-wrong way? I love my blue bong, even if the mouth hole is shaped like an egg.
But its so damn beautiful...
PS to T-Rex:
I love ya sig. quote: "Its Not Peer Pressure. Its Just Your Turn."  That made me laugh. I'm gunna have to use that sometime....
Thanks buddy 
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