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 Harry_Ba11sach
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 Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household  [Re: coda]
#362208 - 02/11/10 10:15 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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OK..... soo.... looking waaay way freakin' better now that they're in hempy cups. definitely showing some good recovery and barely curled at all on the leaves, but now I'm a little bit concerned with the yellow spots on the fan leaves. Do you guys think this is just an expression of the stress they're recovering from or is it a deficiency/disease that I should be concerned with? if it's a disease I really don't want it spreading to my new clones... Thoughts?
 
and some root porn from my bubblegum just for the hell of it.  
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 Frizzleman
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#362281 - 02/11/10 12:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mr ballsach they are looking just fine to me buddy. I think its just a change of environment that they are getting use to. I highly doubt its any disease. Those plants in your sig are sick man..... I could only wish
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FurrowedBrow
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Frizzleman]
#362326 - 02/11/10 01:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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dude, do you have an HPS on that? That light looks aweful red for veg. id recommend taking a picture without that light on it. get a shot of some green leaves! 
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#362348 - 02/11/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah man that's the HPS. I don't have the money to go buy a 600W MH bulb for veg, but I'll gladly take donations
lights are off right now for the next 2 hours, when they come on I'll take the babes outside and get some shots in the sun so you can get a feel for the actual color.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Frizzleman]
#362391 - 02/11/10 02:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Frizzleman said:
Mr ballsach they are looking just fine to me buddy. I think its just a change of environment that they are getting use to. I highly doubt its any disease. Those plants in your sig are sick man..... I could only wish
thanks for the input friz. my plan has basically been waiting it out on those bitches for the last month, so why not another couple weeks?
and I think you're going to get closer to plants like that than you realize if you keep the temps at a reasonable level in your closet 
Oh, and get some of these;
 
Humboldt Nutrients Gravity and PurpleMaxx (or snowstorm ultra I think is the new name for purplemaxx).
if you google Humboldt gravity and click images pictures #7 and #8 are mine 
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#362471 - 02/11/10 04:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
FurrowedBrow said:
dude, do you have an HPS on that? That light looks aweful red for veg. id recommend taking a picture without that light on it. get a shot of some green leaves!
alright here ya go
 
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#362539 - 02/11/10 06:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey Harry what do advanced nutes do? Can I use them with my foxfarms stuff?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Frizzleman]
#362545 - 02/11/10 06:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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which ones? Advanced Nutrients has like 75 different products so you'll need to specify. The base nutes Sensi A and B and Connoisseur A and B are supposed to be awesome for flowering but if you did that you'd need to not use foxfarm with it. I heard Big Bud, Bud Candy, Sensizyme and carboload are supposed to be pretty awesome too but there's a pretty significant amount of snake oil in their brand I reckon.
Honestly I've been really wanting to try them out recently too. everyone I've read that's switched over experienced a significant increase in yield.
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#362583 - 02/11/10 06:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually fox farms has a micro called Cha Ching, just dont know if I should use it or not. Im starting to see significant signs of heat stress on my babies so I went ahead and ordered another 80 cfm booster fan to help out the one I already have.....hopefully that will cool down the light enough to make it cooler in there. I might grow another 4 in another smaller closet for my next go this way im pretty much guaranteed 12 z's per grow assuming 1z as a bench mark. I was really disappointed with a grow I did at my last place, maybe like 10 grams a plant....lol it was crap
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FurrowedBrow
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Frizzleman]
#362588 - 02/11/10 06:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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inverted just bought some of that cha ching, fyi.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Frizzleman]
#362674 - 02/11/10 07:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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well if you're sticking with fox farm then I hear Cha-ching, beastie blooms and open sesame are pretty decent and generally worth your money.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#362721 - 02/11/10 08:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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God fuck me, I want to smoke a bowl but I only get one hit in and I'm cached as fuck.
I grew my weed to strong 
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Inverted
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#362724 - 02/11/10 08:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree.
The powder goes so much farther than the liquid. There are literally hundreds of doses in the small bottle (1 Lb.).
I'm picking up Beastie Blooms next time I hit the Hydro store. (Tomorrow)
Open Sesame is only used to stimulate the onset of flowers, While Beastie Blooms and Cha Ching are used to really bulk up and harden flowers, from what I've learned. 
I'm not using Open Sesame because they are 25 bucks a pop and 50 bucks for bloom nutes is enough for me  Not to mention I've fed w/ CC for a week now and am really liking what I've seen, plus it keeps the pH at a more reasonable level (6.5).
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Inverted]
#362728 - 02/11/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do you know how BB and CC compare to Big Bud and Overdrive by Advanced?
I've been reading all these side by side comparisons recently and I'm starting to think I have no choice but to try advanced. People who were getting 1lb per 1KW are suddenly pulling 1.8-2lbs with genetic clones and the exact same grow space. Not just the 80% yield increase but they're saying the potency and the flavor all increased too. Sounds too good to be true...
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#362798 - 02/11/10 09:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Unfortunately I haven't tried anything from AN, but I have heard tons of hype behind their products, but I just can't find myself spending that much, just to get a "complete" spectrum of nutrients, when I can have 3 bottles that cover the entire spectrum (FloraNova or the Flora-3-Pack).
You have more resources than me, so maybe you should just get a simple set that covers all your bases and try a run with 1/2 using your regular nutrients, and give the other half the AN
Can't think of a simpler way to test it...
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captain.koons
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#363030 - 02/12/10 08:36 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Harry_Ba11sach said:
which ones? Advanced Nutrients has like 75 different products so you'll need to specify. The base nutes Sensi A and B and Connoisseur A and B are supposed to be awesome for flowering but if you did that you'd need to not use foxfarm with it. I heard Big Bud, Bud Candy, Sensizyme and carboload are supposed to be pretty awesome too but there's a pretty significant amount of snake oil in their brand I reckon.
Honestly I've been really wanting to try them out recently too. everyone I've read that's switched over experienced a significant increase in yield.
I started with Canna and Advanced Nutrients using the bells and whistles with AN and then switched to General Hydroponics using the basic 3part + koolbloom and I get comparable results for a fraction of the cost.
I wouldn't recommend AN to anyone as they have far too many products and recommend god damn every single product and the nutrients are overpriced. Big Bud and Barricade are the only additives I found to be cost effective.
The connoisseur line sucks balls too, they have had multiple bad batches from what I've seen posted on other forums.
General Hydroponics for the mother fucking win, I'm going to get a lineup of house and garden or dutchmaster next to see if I like them. I've used DM zone but would like to try the gold line. The foliage sprays seem promising.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: captain.koons]
#363177 - 02/12/10 02:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah house and garden is supposed to be really good too.
here's my main thing though; the high levels of phosphorus in GH nutes can't be that good for you. They have some of the highest P levels in the business, and elemental phosphorus is extremely reactive to the point of being downright explosive. I've heard reports from people that reducing their phosphorus levels in their feeding regimens significantly improved flavor while decreasing the harshness of the smoke and pulmonary irritation.
Do you know anything about that?
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captain.koons
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#363194 - 02/12/10 02:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope
I've never really paid much attention to ratios listed on the bottle as they're not required to be reported accurately so long as they state the minimals.
CNS17 bloom was independently tested and was like beyond retarded inaccurate when consulting the bottle.
I don't know how much P GenHy has compared to other brands of nutes :/ I'll look into this.
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: captain.koons]
#363289 - 02/12/10 05:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Humboldt Nutrients Gravity and PurpleMaxx (or snowstorm ultra I think is the new name for purplemaxx).
Close, PurpleMaxx used to contain snowstorm ultra, then humboldt split the two up into separate bottles. So you have the two of them separate now. The snow storm is mega cheap and amazingly awesome. I used on the Sour D plant I had and in the 2-3 weeks of feeding she was already dripping with resin. Too bad she herm'd and I had to cut her, but the little experience I had made me a believer and I'll be adding it into the mix.
Didn't get a chance to properly use gravity but will this run, all I hear is good things about it.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Monday afternoon at the Ba11sach household [Re: coda]
#363299 - 02/12/10 05:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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oh interesting... so I need to go purchase a new bottle of goodies eh?
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