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marrbellade
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POLL: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#339372 - 01/03/10 10:51 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i have a 1000w MH and a digital 400w (which is either or)
any how i want to make the most of what i got and i would like to ask
peeps with some experiance which lamp you would use for flowering, for the fattest yields and best quality if you only had these two options .
also would you please descibe the differences, if any, between flowering w/ MH vs. HPS
as always thank you very much, ya ll have helped me through a good grow so far and i can t wait till harvest............brutha J
PS.......here is a pic, 2 wks flower

Edited by Dr. Siekadellyk (02/12/11 12:18 AM)

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#339431 - 01/03/10 11:55 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

marrbellade said:
i have a 1000w MH and a digital 400w (which is either or)
any how i want to make the most of what i got and i would like to ask
peeps with some experiance which lamp you would use for flowering, for the fattest yields and best quality if you only had these two options .
also would you please descibe the differences, if any, between flowering w/ MH vs. HPS
as always thank you very much, ya ll have helped me through a good grow so far and i can t wait till harvest............brutha J
PS.......here is a pic, 2 wks flower

The HPS are always better for flowering than a MH, you should use the 400W HPS now

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#339437 - 01/03/10 12:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

400 OVER the 1000k?

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marrbellade
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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#339438 - 01/03/10 12:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

so your saying that spectrum beats lumens?

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

[Re: marrbellade]

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#339476 - 01/03/10 01:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i would imagine the 1000 watts would be better. if your worried you can toss a couple warm cfl to get more red in there i ya want

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coda

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#339501 - 01/03/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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400 OVER the 1000k?

Depends on the size of the grow area. A 400 watt light in a small space is a lot easier to keep cool then a 1k light. At the very least you should follow the 50 watt rule. For every square foot in the grow room, you want 50 watts of your power dedicated to it.

IE

3x2 room = 6 square feet
400 watts / 6 ft sq = 66.67 watts per sq ft

So a 400 watt lamp would put off enough light to adequately support a 3x2 grow room. Now, if you have the ability to keep your grow area cool enough to use the 1k MH lamp, go for it. I'd personally use the HPS because I'd want the correct spectrum over more lumens, but that's just me.

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Hawksresurrection

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

[Re: coda]

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#339698 - 01/03/10 05:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well, is it possible for you to run both lights?? That's the way I would go.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#339741 - 01/03/10 07:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
Well, is it possible for you to run both lights?? That's the way I would go.

QFT

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marrbellade
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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#339749 - 01/03/10 07:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

coda- what is the reason for the HPS preferance?
BTW those are my exact room dimentions (you looked at the pic, didnt you)

hawk- the 1k lamp in the space is so fucking hot that i can bearly keep the temps below 85 degrees.............i think im gonna reinstate the 400wt .........

will that fuck my plants up?

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

[Re: marrbellade]

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#340003 - 01/04/10 01:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

HPS = Larger, more airy buds

MH = Smaller, compact and dense

I myself prefer dense nugs and would use the MH, but if you can handle the wattage and power use I would DEFINITELY use both, as you will obviously get the best of both worlds if you do.

If you are selling it all, then use the HPS because you may get larger looking buds, which seem to sell better? :shrug:

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Hawksresurrection

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#340158 - 01/04/10 06:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Inverted said:
HPS = Larger, more airy buds

MH = Smaller, compact and dense

I myself prefer dense nugs and would use the MH, but if you can handle the wattage and power use I would DEFINITELY use both, as you will obviously get the best of both worlds if you do.

If you are selling it all, then use the HPS because you may get larger looking buds, which seem to sell better?

What are you basing this on?? Wattage??

Because HPS does NOT cause larger more airy nugs. A less amount of watts/lumens might.

To answer your question marr.

HPS is the preferred lighting for flowering because of the spectrum of light that it puts off. HPS replicates the orange/red end of the light spectrum, similar to end of summer/fall light. Where MH gives off a blue/white light end of the spectrum.

Switching the light shouldn't cause any problems with your plants.

I take it you don't have vented hoods?? Bummer, your plants would much prefer to have both of those in there.

If I had to pick one over the other I would go with the HPS. MH sucks for flowering.

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coda

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#340357 - 01/04/10 08:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

wow werid, wasn't able to post in this forum last night for some odd reason.

Anyhow, Hawk has it right. HPS puts out the proper spectrum for your plants to use during the flowering cycle. You're much better off using an HPS for flowering then a MH, but if you only have an MH it will work in a pinch.

Inverted, I don't know where you heard this thing about airy buds from HPS lamps but it's just not true. Take a look at any of Mag's buds, IIRC he's strictly HPS with flowering. I wouldn't call any of those nugs airy :wink:

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#340361 - 01/04/10 08:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I wasn't able to post in here last night either. Conspiracy.

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marrbellade
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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#340704 - 01/05/10 12:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i ve had problems trying to post in here several times............
update- i now have a 1k HPS, thank you guys for all the feed back.
this is my first gro indoors and all the help i can get is mucho appreciated...............coda- i got the clone set up now thank you so much for the info , i wished i wasn t so pissed when i named the thread because i m sure it would be of great help/intrest to those who are just getting started....short,sweet and simple to the point effective, results..........
one question for you guys.........back in '99/'00 i took a trip to N. cali with some friends and we took a 1/4# of kill from north seattle area with us...........big fluffy buds, sweet strong flavor esp when lit whith a magnifying glass. but the thing i remember the most was the smell. we put that shit inside 2 boxes and underneath all our shit packed into the back of the van and the smell was still strong and penetrated the whole van FOR THE WHOLE TRIP!!! it never lost its potent smell and i ve never come across bud with such a strong smell since. can you experienced growers please tell me what kind of strains do this............... i smoke alot of good herb but not really ever any really GOOD aroma in a long time..........

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#340959 - 01/05/10 05:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

RUN THEM BOTH FOR SURE

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coda

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#340966 - 01/05/10 05:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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can you experienced growers please tell me what kind of strains do this

Look into a Skunk cross if you want some serious funk.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#347497 - 01/14/10 09:55 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ran across this thread thought it was done but i have made one more add on................A MUTHER FLIPPIN HOOD, im the mutherflippin, who's the mutherflippin.......mutherflippin......

it was so hot in there i couldn't keep it below 90 with the doors wide open!!!!
instant fixer, now im a nice even 80 w/85+ being the high when i close the doors (closet doors, small space) talk about a load off, these poor babies were living a life of constant stress................

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348251 - 01/15/10 01:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

hawksapprentice said:
Quote:

Inverted said:
HPS = Larger, more airy buds

MH = Smaller, compact and dense

I myself prefer dense nugs and would use the MH, but if you can handle the wattage and power use I would DEFINITELY use both, as you will obviously get the best of both worlds if you do.

If you are selling it all, then use the HPS because you may get larger looking buds, which seem to sell better?

What are you basing this on?? Wattage??

Because HPS does NOT cause larger more airy nugs. A less amount of watts/lumens might.

To answer your question marr.

HPS is the preferred lighting for flowering because of the spectrum of light that it puts off. HPS replicates the orange/red end of the light spectrum, similar to end of summer/fall light. Where MH gives off a blue/white light end of the spectrum.

Switching the light shouldn't cause any problems with your plants.

I take it you don't have vented hoods?? Bummer, your plants would much prefer to have both of those in there.

If I had to pick one over the other I would go with the HPS. MH sucks for flowering.

Actually I stand my ground. I've read hundreds if not thousands of grow journals and from many of the PROS at ICmag, that is EXACTLY WHAT THEY TOLD ME.

I'm going to believe someone who has been doing it for 20-30 years, using BOTH to grow crops.

Not being an ass or anything, but I have seen the results... A combination of both is optimal, along with some UVB fluorescents for added trich production.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

[Re: coda]

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#348253 - 01/15/10 01:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

coda said:

Inverted, I don't know where you heard this thing about airy buds from HPS lamps but it's just not true. Take a look at any of Mag's buds, IIRC he's strictly HPS with flowering. I wouldn't call any of those nugs airy

I'm sorry man but I've just read that statement far too many times to disregard that many professional growers. Magash is one of thousands.

What are you basing your theories off of? You've only seen some pictures, or maybe sampled a little bud. I'm not saying you cannot get dense buds from an HPS, but from all of the research I have come across, MH is TOTALLY FINE for flowering, it will just produce smaller more compact buds, while HPS will be larger, but slightly less dense, and combining the two is the best. It is more strain dependent than anything! I only have 150w HPS and am using 200w of CFL's alongside that, and 2 of my plants have some of the densest buds I've ever created. But I cannot be 100% sure until they are dried and cured.

/rant

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348702 - 01/16/10 03:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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MH is TOTALLY FINE for flowering,

Where did I say it wasn't? I just don't buy into the HPS produces airy buds line. That's all.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

[Re: coda]

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#348733 - 01/16/10 04:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I dont buy it either.

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Re: POLL: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348734 - 01/16/10 04:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Oh and I corrected the title cuz it was pissing me off. Its Poll! not pole.

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Hawksresurrection

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348858 - 01/16/10 08:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Inverted said:
Quote:

hawksapprentice said:
Quote:

Inverted said:
HPS = Larger, more airy buds

MH = Smaller, compact and dense

I myself prefer dense nugs and would use the MH, but if you can handle the wattage and power use I would DEFINITELY use both, as you will obviously get the best of both worlds if you do.

If you are selling it all, then use the HPS because you may get larger looking buds, which seem to sell better?

What are you basing this on?? Wattage??

Because HPS does NOT cause larger more airy nugs. A less amount of watts/lumens might.

To answer your question marr.

HPS is the preferred lighting for flowering because of the spectrum of light that it puts off. HPS replicates the orange/red end of the light spectrum, similar to end of summer/fall light. Where MH gives off a blue/white light end of the spectrum.

Switching the light shouldn't cause any problems with your plants.

I take it you don't have vented hoods?? Bummer, your plants would much prefer to have both of those in there.

If I had to pick one over the other I would go with the HPS. MH sucks for flowering.

Actually I stand my ground. I've read hundreds if not thousands of grow journals and from many of the PROS at ICmag, that is EXACTLY WHAT THEY TOLD ME.

I'm going to believe someone who has been doing it for 20-30 years, using BOTH to grow crops.

Not being an ass or anything, but I have seen the results... A combination of both is optimal, along with some UVB fluorescents for added trich production.

I agree that you shouldn't use both MH and HPS for flowering. I never argued otherwise. I use that combination. But you should be using more HPS than MH.

I'm arguing that HPS produces airy buds. That's just bullshit. You can hold your ground if you want. But I've personally done many grows with just HPS and it's produced VERY tight dense buds.

Running straight MH for flowering will get you a lower yield compared to an HPS of equal wattage. This I have personally tried as well.

This is why if people only have enough money to buy one or the other instead of a switchable ballast you always recommend HPS. Because it dominates in flowering compared to MH. And that's just a fact. Not some theory I have or have seen looking at pictures.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348859 - 01/16/10 08:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348866 - 01/16/10 09:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You guys are fucked.

Where did I say very airy buds? I want to see it seriously.

Maybe you should reread this thread... :lol:

:lol:

And trip, you have no place in this argument.

I'm pretty sure this is what I said.

Quote:

Inverted said:
MH is TOTALLY FINE for flowering, it will just produce smaller more compact buds, while HPS will be larger, but slightly less dense, and combining the two is the best. It is more strain dependent than anything.

/rant

Please show me in there where it says VERY AIRY BUDS!?!?!?

:lol:

:lol:

Don't make assumptions before you know the facts, it's embarrassing.

You are coming off like an ass. Who says I haven't used these lights?

Seriously you were just so far off in that post. :facepalm:

:facepalm:

I've used just HPS, and just MH!!!!!!!! So how is that a theory again?

Like I said, it's more strain dependent than anything!

We'll leave it at that mmmkay?

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#348873 - 01/16/10 09:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Dude, read what you wrote. You said the buds from an HPS will be less dense. I know more about growing than you give me credit for man. I've read more than you about lights aparently. So dont tell me that I have no place in this arguement. Oh and also quit getting so butthurt all the time. Its pretty pathetic.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

[Re: coda]

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#348877 - 01/16/10 09:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

coda said:
Quote:

MH is TOTALLY FINE for flowering,

Where did I say it wasn't? I just don't buy into the HPS produces airy buds line. That's all.

I never accused you of opposing this.

Seriously what is up with you guys in this thread.

You are acting like I would rather use a MH than an HPS or something.

I've been researching grow logs for 8 years, and from what I have gathered is what I posted. I even remember a grow log where one guy had a big room and used MH on one side and HPS on the other and used clones of the same mother. His results were what I posted. I so wish I could find that now... Then you wouldn't have anything to say.

I know if you have the choice, go for HPS every time. I mean even my 150 is giving me 7-10 gram colas on 20" tall plants of a lower yielding strain. Rock hard...

Like I said, it's more strain dependent, but when the variables are all exactly the same, except for the lighting used, the HPS produced LARGER buds, but the were just slightly less dense than the MH grown, which had a lighter yield. Not a lot lighter, but it was enough to easily notice. He noted them to be just a little more compact than HPS grown.

This is just all I have gathered through research, personal experience, and word of mouth from other growers.

I'm really not trying to argue or debate, but show you why I posted what I did and to make sure you understood exactly where I was coming from. I was never attacking you coda. I don't like being misquoted then having said info called "bullshit", it seems a little harsh (Hawk)

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348881 - 01/16/10 09:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Triptonic said:
Dude, read what you wrote. You said the buds from an HPS will be less dense. I know more about growing than you give me credit for man. I've read more than you about lights aparently. So dont tell me that I have no place in this arguement. Oh and also quit getting so butthurt all the time. Its pretty pathetic.

Wow, that was pathetic. Do I need to quote myself a 2nd time???

You must be fucking blind. I said SLIGHTLY LESS DENSE!!!!!!!!!!

I know you know a decent amount of information, but EXPERIENCE is equally important.

I know a shit ton about growing. I've been doing it constantly for nearly a decade, and I still learn things first hand every grow that I would have never figured out through reading on the internet.

Get your hands dirty and i'll give you more credit. Once you have a successful grow now that you have the means equipment wise, I'll give you a lot more respect.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348882 - 01/16/10 09:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

LOL the funny thing is, is that I really dont care if you respect me. I have read your posts and have decided you dont know that much about growing yourself. I would trust Coda over you anytime. Now go cry home to mommy. :bitch:

:bitch:

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348885 - 01/16/10 09:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

When I say Slightly Less Dense, I mean negligible amounts probably not even noticed by the pot heads buying it, but a seasoned grower such as me, coda, and hawk would probably notice if you have grown a bunch of times and notice the structure changes.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348889 - 01/16/10 09:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Triptonic said:
LOL the funny thing is, is that I really dont care if you respect me. I have read your posts and have decided you dont know that much about growing yourself. I would trust Coda over you anytime. Now go cry home to mommy.

You only think I don't know that much because I don't have a bunch of money and a nice setup, but it's cool, I'm never offended by anything you say because your first grow was a complete failure that made me laugh.

My first grow was 2 - 9 foot tall christmas trees. I could care less if you think I don't know that much, because obviously my ratings show the truth. I've been doing this for a decade, you have no idea how much you don't know. :lol:

:lol:

The only persons opinion I care about is Magash's, so go away. I'd never be butthurt over an insult from you. See ya

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#348890 - 01/16/10 09:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You keep talkin but all I'm hearing is :bitch:

:bitch:

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#348892 - 01/16/10 09:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Oh and also........

Quote:

Inverted said:
HPS = Larger, more airy buds

MH = Smaller, compact and dense

I myself prefer dense nugs and would use the MH, but if you can handle the wattage and power use I would DEFINITELY use both, as you will obviously get the best of both worlds if you do.

If you are selling it all, then use the HPS because you may get larger looking buds, which seem to sell better?

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348896 - 01/16/10 09:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Wow you are dumb.

Lol it's funny, cuz so many talk shit about how annoying you are behind your back...

You are just interpreting the information wrong I guess :shrug:

:shrug:

HPS produces larger buds, that's what I said.

You are so fucking naive that you don't realize that I clarified what I meant in the latter posts.

Quit trying to find holes in my information, everyone knows and thinks you are just a troll anyways, so I'm done talking to you. All you do is argue with everyone, even when you know you are wrong. Pretty childish. How old are you again? 20?

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348899 - 01/16/10 09:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Damn we need a butthurt smiley. It could be called :inverted:

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348901 - 01/16/10 09:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Clever, now go away, scuttle back to the dome you fit in better over there.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348926 - 01/16/10 11:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

This is pathetic, your both being ridiculous.

Inverted, you said HPS give you airy buds. Yes you said it, maybe you didn't phrase it as well as you would have liked.

But the fact is that HPS does not. It gives very dense nugs and should always be used in flowering over MH if you can only do one or the other.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348935 - 01/17/10 12:55 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:andyistic:

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#348945 - 01/17/10 01:58 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah yeah yeah, I know the fucking difference, I just don't care enough to do it when on the internet.

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#348947 - 01/17/10 03:26 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

lol I'm just messin with ya man.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#349495 - 01/18/10 04:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Every one here just needs to chill out a bit and get off each others dicks.

Inverted - no, i never felt like you were attacking me. Just voicing my own opinion.

Everyone else - Keep it civil in these discussions. We're all here to learn, not fuck around in a dick measuring contest. It's ok to disagree with someone, but please don't let it degrade into a flame war or threads will be locked and people banned.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#349500 - 01/18/10 05:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug:

I was mainly just sick of seeing Inverted claiming to be right all the time, when he clearly isnt. Especially in this thread. But I'm done now :smile:

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#349529 - 01/18/10 05:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!...........so was that HPS or MH?
AHHHHH......i think i got it thank you

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#380892 - 03/09/10 08:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Geez, I hate to blow my first post like this, but I absolutely must get in on this dick measuring.

I'm pushing a strong four inches. Almost five. Just want to see where I stand percentile wise...

Anyhow, I've been lurking here a while, love the forum and the people. This is really the first flame laden post I've seen, and yet, it was entertaining.

Glad to be here, questions to come....

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#499414 - 11/19/10 12:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Ive been thinking of replacing my 250 MH with another T5 for Veggin. I have a T5 for propagation and cloning and love it. However the 250 MH seems as hot as the 1000 cool tube HPS. Waiting till I can add a fan. I want to try starting my flowering under the 250 where I can get a little closer and run co2. After 3 weeks moving on down the line the next 6 under the 1k cool tube HPS, No co2. I know everything is not ideal, but I gotta use what I got till I can get some patients.

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Re: POLE: 400w HPS *or* 1000w MH for flowering, what would you use?

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#519743 - 01/27/11 11:33 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

This is info I got from a indoor growing specialist which comes from proven research. MH lamps will be effective for the first two weeks of flowering, it is actually more beneficial to the plant as it does not seek out that yellow-red spectrum which hps gives off until that second to third week of flowering, but hps does indeed produce denser compact flowers, and mh will give you potency and fluff. Apparently using both in cojunction is the way to go...

I did read somewhere about a bulb that utilizes both features, forgot the name.

Edited by scar420 (01/29/11 12:15 AM)

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