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Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog
    #336292 - 12/25/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so I received 11 beans of Magash's Bubba Kush x Super Skunk (Sensi)

Day 1

I germinated 7 of them a few days ago and put them into my regular soil mix.  I gave 1 seedling to Lucid (hopefully that would have been a male :tongue:).  I also germinated 4 Hindu x Master Kush, and 12/12'd one of them and it was a male, and I culled the runt, so I'm down to 2 of them, for a total of 8 Vegging.  Nothing special ATM, but I could pick up some better soil right now for the transplants.  I'm going to try to fill my 2' x 2' flowering space with 4 Scrogged plants.  I think that would be the best spacing.  If I use more plants, they have to be small, and wouldn't be as successful in a Scrog.  If I only get a couple females, I'm going to try and get them as bushy and branchy before implementing the Scrog and then flowering. 

I decided to go with 2 gallon containers, ensuring that every plant gets adequate rootspace and branching space.  Since I only have a 150w HPS and a bunch of CFL's (200w) I don't really expect to get 1g/watt, but I'm definitely trying to get at least .5g/watt.  That would be approx. 175 grams.  I think I'll get it this time!

I'm going to flower all but 1 of the females of the group.  She will be mothered for the next run w/ this strain as all clones in a SOG.  I have 8 plants in Veg right now (24/0) and hope I get 5 females.  4 would be the PERFECT configuration in my space.  1 plant per sq. ft. tied down and then scrogged once they are 1 week from flower.  I have about 3 weeks to get them vegged and ready for the flower box.  That harvest is coming in 17 or so days and I want there to be no down time of the system.

No pics yet because they aren't worthy, but wait a week and I will add the first shots.  This will be a weekly update journal.

My oscillating fan also shit the bag last night on my current grow, so I'll be hitting up The Home Depot this weekend and hopefully I'll come out of there with everything I need.

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Come along for the ride friends! :popcorn:

NOTE- I CHANGED PLANS FROM A SOG TO A SCROG, AND AM USING CLONES FOR NEXT RUN NOT THIS RUN, SO IF I REFERENCE CUTTING CLONES AND MOTHERS, DISREGARD THAT, ONLY 1 FEMALE WILL BECOME A MOTHER.  Continue on...


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: Inverted]
    #336815 - 12/26/09 10:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Oh boy am I glad to see the progress of these little buggers. BUMP!


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: Inverted]
    #338032 - 12/29/09 08:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Can't wait to see what Magash's beans do under a SOG. Good luck with the grow. and please... keep updating. We want to see the goods


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: NightGrower]
    #338042 - 12/29/09 08:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I plan to keep a very professional log/journal on these, as it is kinda part of the trade :tongue:  He get's great feedback and I get great smoke/genetics to work with.  Win-Win big fat Grin! :grin:

Day 4

All seedlings are up, first sets are about an inch.  I've neglected them for a few days as I was upgrading my lighting to my flower chamber.  I bought a 65w 2700k CFL and a reflector.  It's actually impressively bright and cool to boot.  I'll take pictures weekly so mind the visualization for now. (I actually laughed when I found the CFL... It's huge!)

I also bought the most powerful PC fan I could find.  It pushes 133 CFM and my new box is only going to be 16 Ft3.  Technically you should exchange the air a minimum of 1x per minute.  I have it set up to run a little lower, probably about 100 CFM.  That means I will have exchanged a little over 6 times (6 and 1/4 to be exact).  That plays out to about once every 10 seconds.  I'm also counting on some pressure to slow that down a bit as well.  No carbon filter for me.  Anyways the building will probably start tonight, tomorrow, or sometime this week as it's not urgent.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: Inverted]
    #338283 - 12/30/09 06:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #338664 - 01/01/10 09:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #338688 - 01/01/10 10:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Day 7

Well it's Friday already and that pretty much only means one thing to me!  Updates...

This is a picture of Day 4 after the germinated seeds were put under soil.  I believe they had been up for about 21/2 days.  (P.S. There are 5 other (hopefully) future mothers - Chrstal, Hindu x Master Kush that are around 10 days old and semi-neglected :tongue:)



I had them under only (1) 30w - 3,000k bulb for a couple days to give them some light to orient them.  I added another equal bulb on day 4, and yesterday I added a 3rd for a total of ~90 Watts of CFL's.  I'm skimping as of right now, I know; but a lot of my focus and time has been working on correcting/updating my flowering cab.

Yes they are jerry-rigged into position and it looks half-assed, but I can assure you by next weeks update everything will look more clean and correct.  I need to construct a small support structure to hold all of the sockets and cords in an organized manner, as well as keeping the light source at one even level.  I can adjust the plants individually to give them the optimal distance and light intensity.

I know that is NOT enough lighting to vegetate 4-5 small mothers, but it should be fine for the first couple weeks.  They will begin to stretch after that If I don't do something to increase light penetration.  What do you guys think about LST on mothers?  I would think that tying them down would create faster growth of the secondary branches/future clones?  The other option is to take the apical tips of each mother in the first batch of cuts, which in turn has basically the same effect of LST.
I'll probably go with option 2 out of simplicity and proven methods.

I think instead of buying 3 more regular CFL's for the mothers, I would just invest in another 65w.  The one in the flower cab is performing absolutely great compared to smaller (30-40w) bulbs.  Don't get me wrong, those sizes work great; but the Lumens/Watt ratio of the 65w is the most efficient size.  It barely puts off any heat because the ballast has a nice built in heatsink.  If I get another one of those reflectors ($25 Light + Reflector Combo) I think I'll be just fine.  It's not like I will let them become bushes because I'll be taking ~10 cuts every 4 weeks.  150w should be just fine for keeping them in good health!

Over the next 3-4 weeks I'll be building a brand new flower cab.  I will harvest my current 5 flowering ladies (@ Day 34 now), transfer the mothers to the old/current flower cab, and clones will move into the Veg box.  It will be a nice perpetual system on a nearly non-existent budget IMO...  I'm sick of waiting 3-4 months and not being satisfied with the yields, because I end up smoking it all in about a month!  Now I plan to harvest ~2 Oz's/Month, which is more than 2x the amount I smoke.

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: Inverted]
    #344374 - 01/09/10 08:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Day 14

These plants are of AWESOME genetics.  I know I have grown some decent strains in the past, but I can already tell that these are the best.  They are showing more vigor than any others.  The roots are already covering the outside of the keg cups, and 2 had to be transplanted already!  The 2 that were transplanted were actually damaged pretty badly on the walk from my house to the shed.  It was -12 outside and it appears that they had frozen in a very short amount of time.  Some of the leaves dried up and died, but they will be fine and are already continuing on.  The roots are big, fluffy, fuzzy and bright white.  The best and healthiest I have seen personally.  I'm also using half of my normal soil mix, and half Fox Farm Ocean Forest.  This is going to make a HUGE difference in my average growth rates.  I know this because it is SO fluffy and airy compared to what I usually use.

Plants were fed their first dosage of nutrients and they loved it.  Perked up in 24 hours and made an obvious jump in size.  I gave them a nice load of Neptune's Harvest - Organic Fish and Seaweed fertilizer.  It has worked wonders in the past and I finally got a hold of some.  I recommend it to anyone.  I think the N-P-K is (2-3-1), so I use it until the last week of flower.  The rest of the transplants will go down tomorrow or the next day, to 1 Gallon containers until sex is determined.  Enough chatter, here's a sneak peak at them for now.  Not much to look at but they are all healthy.  A couple blemishes here and there but all of the new growth this week has been immaculate. :yesnod:



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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Clone SOG [Re: Inverted]
    #344434 - 01/09/10 09:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

They look great!  lots of growth since the last update!  oh i bet your just giddy with excitement to grow that out.  you lucky dog.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog (moved) [Re: Inverted]
    #347439 - 01/14/10 06:27 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #347616 - 01/14/10 02:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

oh dude cant wait to see how this one goes. good luck man. :thumbup:

(more pics of training if you are doing it please?)


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #347654 - 01/14/10 02:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Day 20

Early update.  I got antsy and took pictures this morning after the transplants yesterday.  They look pretty fucking healthy for only 20 days above soil.  I put them all into 1 gallon containers of 70/30 FFOF cut with Schultz potting mix.  They seem to like it.  Root systems are very healthy and fat.  I have 1 female and 1 ? Hindu x Master Kush.  They aren't looking very healthy, although they are the largest plants.  I think they will clear up after the transplant.  They were far too rootbound and probably deficient in more areas than one.  We will see.

Well I don't really have any other news, except they are growing like there is no tomorrow.  I'm impressed with this run.  ZERO mistakes is the goal.  I always manage to make one mistake with each run, and it's usually attributed to my laziness, which will NOT get in the way anymore.  I want a full canopy, because with a small floorprint the more tops the higher yield I'm going to get.

Here's the goods.

 

Look at how fat and healthy those leaves are.  They also have a glossy finish which I think is a Bubba trait.  :awesome:

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oh dude cant wait to see how this one goes. good luck man. :thumbup:

(more pics of training if you are doing it please?)




Funny you say that.  I'm beginning training in the next day or two.  Now that I have them In 1 gallon pots, they won't need to be moved until I sex them, and I'll have the main stem trained and hardened into place by then.

If you pay attention to how I did my first run in this system, and this run, you will see major differences.  I transplanted too late last time and stunted them.  I also have them in proper soil.  (FFOF).  Also have awesome nutes which I didn't pick up until half way through flowering of that run.  No more laziness!


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #347660 - 01/14/10 03:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

awesome. yeah i figured you'd be getting close to training sometime soon. throw a few pics with some details in there for me man. i'd appreciate it. looks good so far. :awebig:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #347665 - 01/14/10 03:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You got it.  I'll make a TEK of sorts for ya.  They really do look good.  I'm more excited about these plants in veg than the plants that are 1-2 weeks from harvest!  :smile:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #347759 - 01/14/10 04:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

thanks man. tryin to learn as much as i can so when i finally do get to grow, i'll have all the knowledge possible. i've looked into training and read all about it, but i'm still kinda confused about a couple things.

well that grow is pretty much done for the most part. you pretty much know how it's going to end up because all the work has already been put in really. cept for a couple things.

the new grow is just beginning. you have new shit to work with haha.

yeah i'm interested to see how your scrog turns out too. i'm thinking of going that route, not sure yet though. this will definetly help make my decision for me though. so give it your best shot :thumbup:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #347786 - 01/14/10 04:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you I really appreciate it.  I will give you a good detailed walkthrough.  It's a lot easier to just get in there and do it rather than trying to imagine how it would work, but I will make it so that you can see exactly how it's done.  Research like you say and you will be leaps and bounds ahead of the average newbie.  I like how you look for the answers to questions before starting a new post.  I wish everyone would do that!

I topped the lone Chrystal plant with all the branches.  I hope it's a girl!

I'd say I have 21/2 - 3 weeks of veg left before I put them into the Flower Chamber, but this depends on the harvest of the other plants, and the maturity of the Skunk Kush crosses.  :smiling:  :bongload:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #347794 - 01/14/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ok i've read all about topping. but what exactly does it do? does it encourage the plants to show sex flowers earlier? or keep it from getting as tall? i'd like to talk to people about what i've read about as well. real world conversation, or internet world in this case, goes a long way.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #347805 - 01/14/10 04:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)



It removes the main growing tip and allows the secondary branches to shoot up and become their own main tips.  So instead of growing a plant with one big cola and a bunch of smaller side buds, you can grow a plant with multiple large colas and small side buds.

The above pic is an example of a plant I topped while it was a tiny cutting.  I should update that thread again, it's gotten way bigger with the flowering stretch.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: coda]
    #347808 - 01/14/10 04:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

oh ok i got it.

damn, how small was she when you topped it? it didn't hurt it doing it when it was that young?


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #347810 - 01/14/10 05:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Topping basically ceases vertical growth, while encouraging multiple tops and a more even canopy.  It does not change or effect sexing.

When you cut the top off of the plant, you remove the primary growing tip.  In turn, the top node below the cut will become primary, and the 2 little branches that are there when you cut, will become the 2 main stalks of the plant.  All of the growth hormones that usually go directly to the main tip will now be diverted to the 2 branches at the new highest node.  More of the growth hormone will also be able to reach the rest of the branches, so the original main stalk will just thicken up, not grow much longer, and all of the separate branches will begin to appear like they are their own plant.  Here is a plant that I topped, notice the awesome large branches.  The bigger the branch, the more it can support and larger buds will form on each branch.  I like topping and tying down, but tying seems to incur less stress.



It's the large plant.  Too bad it was a male :sad:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #347811 - 01/14/10 05:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ok. from reading about it, i knew where to cut it, i just wasn't exactly sure what it did. thanks guys. well that pretty much doubles, maybe triples your harvest i would think.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #347853 - 01/14/10 06:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Looking good. Always looking over your shoulder. :tongue::wink:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #347860 - 01/14/10 06:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Looking great as expected Inverted!  i cant wait to see the flowers!

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ok. from reading about it, i knew where to cut it, i just wasn't exactly sure what it did. thanks guys. well that pretty much doubles, maybe triples your harvest i would think.




hopefully your reading includes this thread.  If not, spend half of your evening reading it and going trhough those other links.  Reading through grow journals is an excellent way to learn as well!  You're right on track my man. 

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Magash]
    #347935 - 01/14/10 08:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Looking good. Always looking over your shoulder. :tongue:;)




:blush:  A compliment from you always makes me smile!  Thank you for providing the opportunity.

I'm not going to get lazy on these ones.  I am too excited for that to happen!

And yes, Furrowed posted a GREAT stickied thread on the subject of training (thanks for the compliment!).


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #347958 - 01/14/10 09:29 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Looking great as expected Inverted!  i cant wait to see the flowers!

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ok. from reading about it, i knew where to cut it, i just wasn't exactly sure what it did. thanks guys. well that pretty much doubles, maybe triples your harvest i would think.




hopefully your reading includes this thread.  If not, spend half of your evening reading it and going trhough those other links.  Reading through grow journals is an excellent way to learn as well!  You're right on track my man. 

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yeah i read that thread a few days ago actually. great post FB. i'll have to watch closely on this grow log and maybe ask a question here and there when it gets to the training part. but i did learn a lot from your post FB.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #347978 - 01/14/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Topping basically ceases vertical growth, while encouraging multiple tops and a more even canopy.  It does not change or effect sexing.





I disagree with that last statement. Topping generally delays the appearance or visibility of preflowers on unsexed plants.

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Ojom]
    #348030 - 01/14/10 11:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It depends on how many nodes you have grown it when you top it, and at which node you top it.

I see sex on my 6th node generally, and top around the 7th or 8th and because of the location of my preflowers, I don't notice a delay. :shrug:

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #348061 - 01/15/10 02:05 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

They're looking perfect man!  Keep it up!


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: phantom]
    #349951 - 01/18/10 11:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well according to the clock its Day 25, not time yet for an update, but I figured I'd show you guys my LST tek...

Okay well here is an example of what the plants looked like pre-training.

This is the best time because it is about as large as they will get before the stem starts to harden and becomes difficult to modify.



First I take a 3/16" drill bit and make a hole near the top edge of the container, but I also look at how the branches are forming and make sure it is in the direction that is best for the plant to bend towards, making sure no major branches will be on the bottom side.

Tie off one side of the string to the hole at this time.



I apply light pressure and "feel" where the plant starts to stress, and I stop at that point and loop the string around/over the main stem, making sure to be about 3/4 of the way up, and not blocking any future growth points with the string.  I usually rest it just below the "Y" of the fan leaves, keeping the string from going any further up the plant.



I then release the pressure once the string is in place and take one last look to make sure everything is in the right place, and prepare to tie it off to the pot again.



Pull on the loose end of the string in the direction of the anchor hole and the plant will smoothly bend down into place.  Keep note of where you felt it should be placed and tie it off at that level.  For me it's usually almost all the way on it's side, and I have found that if you don't tie it down far enough the first time, it won't do much unless you re adjust it lower.  You really want as much light penetration as possible to those interior secondary branches.

That is what my plants look like after training, it takes about 5 minutes per plant and as the plant grows I may need to add a 2nd string, but for now this will promote a LOT of thick strong branches, instead of 1 main stem and cola.



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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #349960 - 01/18/10 11:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ok so you don't leave the plant tied?  you take the string off after 5 mins?


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    #349966 - 01/19/10 12:01 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

No you leave it tied down otherwise it will go right back up straight.

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    #349968 - 01/19/10 12:09 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yep he's right (Trip).  I just let it stand back up after looping the string around to make sure I'm not going to break any leaves or branches when I pull it down permanently.  It's really really simple, you just have to maybe get your hands dirty to really get the feel for what's going on, but basically bend the plant down til you feel it's pressure point, note that, loop string, release finger pressure, pull string down tight, tie off, viola.

I'd recommend it to ANYONE who can't grow huge trees indoors.  It's as effective as topping without the week of delayed growth IMO.  :thumbup:

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    #349981 - 01/19/10 12:30 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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    #350643 - 01/20/10 06:11 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I really wanna see that scrog in action man... I think if you get 4 plants under there, you're in business... Almost all of the most impressive grows I've seen with a 2x2 footprint and 150-250w systems have been scrogged...

Also, I think you're setup's doing even better than most with the amount of quality flouro you're able to add to the mix...

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    #356345 - 02/01/10 09:50 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Day 38

Sorry for the delay on the updates, I have been busy lately and feeling under the weather.  The good news is that this grow is progressing EXACTLY how I planned, which is how it should be. :tongue:

I'm absolutely loving these plants.  When I was in the garden, I could smell these vegging plants over the plants that were cut down later that night, if that isn't saying something.  I also tried to show you how I transplant, as I feel it has a MAJOR impact on soil grows.

It's probably hard to tell the difference from a normal transplant by the pictures but the difference I made in the last couple years that has made a big difference was to roll the rootball in my hands until the bottom starts falling apart, exposing all of those large sexy roots on the bottom.  Once they loosen up, I lightly tug on them, so they separate a bit and then I lower her into place.  The key here is when you set her down, you use your dexterity here to pull those loosened roots out on top of the new soil, effectively allowing them to branch out much faster after they take to the new soil.  If you damage them too much, they may delay for a day or two, but in the end they will take off like no other.  I learned this tek from ICmag a while back and will never change my methods again because I have seen the proof.

Today is the first day of 12/12!  I'm putting the screen over them today and starting the final training stage.  I'm really excited to see how this works out.  With the even canopy my yields are going to probably double.  I really missed out last grow but that's okay, I wasn't being too serious about that run.  Plus I gotta show Magash some good results!



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    #356801 - 02/02/10 12:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I took a shot of them this morning.  The new cab is amazing.  I can feel the airflow as well as hear it and it was 72 degrees at canopy level.  I'm very satisfied with the design.

I tied down the plants again and am giving them a day or two before I apply the screen, I just didn't feel they were ready for it in the position they were in.  They needed to be more horizontal before I attempted again, and I needed some of the initial stretch of flowering to get the lower tops to the same height.  It shouldn't take long.

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    #356926 - 02/02/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

lookin good dude
don't know how I haven't visited this thread in weeks
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    #356930 - 02/02/10 06:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you guys are awesome!  :awethumb:  those are some fat green leaves inverted.

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    #356950 - 02/02/10 07:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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lookin good dude
don't know how I haven't visited this thread in weeks
keep up the good work




And Furrowed- I know right?  They are going to be some supa dank couchlockers :hehehe:

Keep visiting and comments are ALWAYS APPRECIATED.  I tend to get bored and love conversations and questions about my setup etc...

What I'm loving about this new home for them is the simplicity and effectiveness of the cab.  I'm only using about 1/3 of the vertical height but everything is just plain clean.  I mean the paint job and design are just simple in concept, yet it's bright as shit w/o mylar and sealed watertight nonetheless, and the strong PC fan being used in a passive intake system is working beyond my expectations.  I thought it would be underpowered for my space (~130CFM/16 Ft3) but it is STEADY at 72 degrees which is room temp!  I'm sorry for ranting but I have never been this proud of a DIY project like this before, even though I've made much more complicated and labor intensive things.  I love growing Cannabis more than most things in my life, what can I say? :grin: :wink:

I have a roll of 20" wide aluminum sheeting and it would work great to build reflectors for CFL's (Coming soon... Ugh it's more work) and I will lay a piece down on the floor to reflect any additional light possible.  It can't hurt :shrug:  I can make 4 sided reflectors to be installed onto any CFL's I use for supplemental lighting, which I feel is a must for optimizing my space.  This 150 doesn't spread out the light very well, especially when you keep it 5" from the canopy like me.

This guide is the reason I have chosen to grow the plants the way that I have.  4" is the closest you should be to a 150 and I can attest to that.  Any closer is harmful.  Then from the canopy, you really only get "intense usable" light for the next 9 INCHES! 



This means 2 things.

1.  Plant size/height are going to be limited.  You don't want them any taller than 14 inches IMO.  Anything taller and the lowest buds just won't produce like you want them to.  I'll also mention that you want a low-stretching strain for a 150.

2.  LST or HST (Some sort of training) needs to be utilized for maximum yield.  My first run was a prime example of this.  I didn't tie them down like I normally would and suffered the consequences.  Instead of multiple nice tops, each plant only grew 1 cola, and the lower branches were so short and low on the plant, that they were out of the "intense" light range so they developed slower and w/ less mass.

What I have done this grow is: A.  Veg for longer, providing a better growth structure for bud development, and flowering when sexually mature ensuring a quicker transition to bloom.  B.  Utilize LST and keep these larger vegged plants shorter than my previous harvest, even though the plants are 3-4x the overall size than my last run when flipped to 12/12.  I think the yields will be much higher just from the double veg time, but add the LST and I'm going to have a nice pile of chunky buds from this crew of sexy ladies!  :laugh:


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    #357047 - 02/02/10 10:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #357065 - 02/02/10 11:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

dude i can't wait. i'm gonna learn so much...i think. :lol:

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    #357099 - 02/03/10 03:50 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Man, your cab really puts mine to shame.... The walls are so smooth!  Insanely clean bro...  I'm feeling what you're saying about the height too.  I don't use about a foot of my vert after training... and it took my plant a 10 week veg to make a canopy out of a 2 gal pot anyway, so it's not like we can squeeze any more plants in there by keeping them skinny.... Unless maybe we could get some tall skinny pots?  :bongload:

So where does your air actually go?  Is the cab sitting in a large room that maintains ambient?  Mine's in a tiny closet that heats up quick... Nice you don't have to use a scrubber either..

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: DudeTron]
    #357143 - 02/03/10 09:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking very plush! Can you tell me or show me how even the canopy is before the screen? The one I am running is going to be replaced by 2-4 in the next run. They will be clones but I am wondering how well they will stay even. Have you noticed them completing for height or are they staying fairly low and even with the LST?


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: pha3r0]
    #357181 - 02/03/10 11:19 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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dude i can't wait. i'm gonna learn so much...i think. :lol:

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I hope so!  I know I ramble A LOT, but it's only because I want to give people details to go along with the grow.  That and I'm high as fuck.  :shrug:

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Man, your cab really puts mine to shame.... The walls are so smooth!  Insanely clean bro...  I'm feeling what you're saying about the height too.  I don't use about a foot of my vert after training... and it took my plant a 10 week veg to make a canopy out of a 2 gal pot anyway, so it's not like we can squeeze any more plants in there by keeping them skinny.... Unless maybe we could get some tall skinny pots?  :bongload:

So where does your air actually go?  Is the cab sitting in a large room that maintains ambient?  Mine's in a tiny closet that heats up quick... Nice you don't have to use a scrubber either..

ROck on dude  :rockon:




Thank You!  I took a lot of time making it just right for what I wanted.

There is a small, shitty, unfinished basement where I live, which barely gets any outside light so it works great.  NO ONE goes down there anyways, but I built the cab that way nonetheless.  Yes the air just get's exchanged into the basement, which has the ventilation system in it so the basement air gets fresh air all the time too.  I have been following your journal and am liking what I am seeing.  I totally agree with using LST in personal grows.  I really feel it boosts yields significantly.


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Looking very plush! Can you tell me or show me how even the canopy is before the screen? The one I am running is going to be replaced by 2-4 in the next run. They will be clones but I am wondering how well they will stay even. Have you noticed them completing for height or are they staying fairly low and even with the LST?




Thanks man!  Yes I'll show you the before after.  These plants were actually very similar in height before training, but I just wanted the lower budsites to produce stronger, and giving them more of the growth hormones is the best way I can think of.  I should be putting the screen on in the next day or two if the branching takes off like I expect.

Don't mind the other plants in the back.  The 4 main plants are the Bubba x SS.  This is before tying down the 2nd time.



After tying



They stay perfectly even with the LST because you can decide exactly how tall you want each little bush.  It is important to start early though, by 3 weeks of veg. I would recommend the first adjustment.

As for competing for height, I have noticed these plants to be nearly equal in growth rates and internode distance (all <1").


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    #357187 - 02/03/10 11:28 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Cool beans.

The canopy on 'The Dream' is pretty even after 2 weeks of flowering things haven't stretched out unevenly so we aren't even going to put in the screen like we had planned.


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    #357191 - 02/03/10 11:36 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm debating that very same concept.  I've done a good enough job of keeping everything even and branching that I'm not even sure I need it, but experience tells me that by the time I change my mind it will be too late to do anything about it so I'm probably going to suck it up and install it anyways, plus it brings more foliage into the lighting "sweet spot", so whatever bud grows there should be nice and dense.


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    #357225 - 02/03/10 01:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking good! Those pots look familiar, don't they kick ass? I'm pretty sure they are closer to 3 gallons fwiw.

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    #357234 - 02/03/10 02:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:lol:  I was thinking the same thing when I was re-reading your journal yesterday!  I love em' man, never going to use anything else.  I can fit so much more soil into those than a round container.

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Can't wait to see these flower.




You read my mind.  They are taking the tie down great.  The branches are nice and thick.  These would make great mothers.  I'm dying to see buds form.


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    #357328 - 02/03/10 06:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hey let me in on the bucket secret guys! if we keep 4 of the clones to flower and 2 as mothers those square buckets would fit very nice in the freeezer.

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I'm debating that very same concept.  I've done a good enough job of keeping everything even and branching that I'm not even sure I need it, but experience tells me that by the time I change my mind it will be too late to do anything about it so I'm probably going to suck it up and install it anyways, plus it brings more foliage into the lighting "sweet spot", so whatever bud grows there should be nice and dense.




Heh well hopefully in 20 days I dont look back at this and :facepalm: if momma gets unruly.


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    #357357 - 02/03/10 08:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

oh dude i love the ramblings. i'll take as much info as possible man. reason being is that your grows are very similar to what i'll eventually be doing. except mine will probably be in a closet. but same size light and shit. so as you're doing trial and error for the most part, i'm learning what does and doesn't work as well. i'll take all the info you wanna give man. keep it comin.


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    #357367 - 02/03/10 08:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey let me in on the bucket secret guys! if we keep 4 of the clones to flower and 2 as mothers those square buckets would fit very nice in the freeezer.

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I'm debating that very same concept.  I've done a good enough job of keeping everything even and branching that I'm not even sure I need it, but experience tells me that by the time I change my mind it will be too late to do anything about it so I'm probably going to suck it up and install it anyways, plus it brings more foliage into the lighting "sweet spot", so whatever bud grows there should be nice and dense.




Heh well hopefully in 20 days I dont look back at this and :facepalm: if momma gets unruly.




I got them at the hydro shop.  They have great drainage holes in the bottom and are the perfect size IMO.  Plus they are nice and thick and only cost me $2.50 a piece, so I can use them forever. 

I think you will be alright as long as you have the space.

FBD-  Good, that's what I figured is that I could inspire some personal closet growers to create some good harvests to keep them supplied.  I stay high as fuck for free, it feels good.

Well I took clones tonight!  Didn't get the scrog set up, but that will give me something to do tomorrow during the day :wink:

I think I did a pretty textbook job on them, although they may seem small, they were nice 6 inch stems before I cut them down, nice soft stems but they weren't the runt branches so they should have a decent amount of hormones in them.  This is the 2nd time I've cloned so hopefully I get 100% survival rate.  I took 2 from the Hindu/Master Kush and 1 from each of the other moms.  Since they are f1's, I might be able to find a unique cross out of the 4, which I already have my eye on one for a permanent mom.  I need to get some MANEATER so I can get another mom going.  I'm going to use clones for grows from here on out if this goes well.



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    #357455 - 02/03/10 10:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking good. I like the way you did the lst. Looks like you gave my genetics a good home. :thumbup:

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    #357542 - 02/04/10 08:25 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah those ought to do you alright. cloning isn't rocket science you just gotta make sure you have all the tools and equipment ready and follow the directions. i guess that makes it rocket science for some people though.


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    #357589 - 02/04/10 11:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking awesome man.  Can't wait to see some buds forming.

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    #357817 - 02/04/10 08:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Looking good. I like the way you did the lst. Looks like you gave my genetics a good home. :thumbup:

Always watching :wink:




Thank you Magash, your opinion is always important to me. :thumbup:

I am so appreciative for these seeds.  Even though they weren't your main line and were only f1's, I am already in love with them.  I've never bought seeds from a seed bank but I would have to assume these are at least the same, but probably higher in quality then what I would buy.

The thing is they have just absolutely flourished from day one.  There are definitely 4 different phenotypes but they all have an almost identical trunk length and thickness.  3/4 are HEAVY Indica, and the 4th (and my favorite) seems to have just a slight Sativa influence to her.  She grew the most healthy, and had the most symmetrical growth out of any plant I've ever grown.  Good job Mag.  You are the man :smile:

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yeah those ought to do you alright. cloning isn't rocket science you just gotta make sure you have all the tools and equipment ready and follow the directions. i guess that makes it rocket science for some people though.




Oh I know it's not complicated.  The first time I tried it I just plopped some super shitty runt branches into some super sopping wet and soggy soil in a cup, left em in a cupboard w/ 2 CFL's for a week and a half and one died and one rooted and showed growth right away.

I did it a lot more professional this time and used branches that weren't the worst, but not the best on the plant, so they should show some vigor.  I hope.  But I'm not worried.  I checked on them today and I have a light warming the soil and they are all just slightly warm to the touch :grin:  That makes me happy because I know keeping the medium slightly warm (~80 degrees) is important to stimulate root formation.


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Looking awesome man.  Can't wait to see some buds forming.




Thank you!  I was inspired to match your results with your recent journal, even though I only have a 150w HPS.  I might add the CFL's anyways, as the heat is not a problem at all w/ this FAE design.  I can't believe how much they have exploded since I put them in the new Cab...  I'm so glad I did it up proper for these beautiful ladies!

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    #357852 - 02/04/10 10:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Everything is looking nice and clean and green, it doesn't get any better. Those look like some choice genetics too so hats off to Magash. Can't wait to see these bud up, I'll be watching. Your plant on the left below really reminds me of a Double Gum pheno I had a while back. The DG (on the right) was a little further along when that pic was taken but still, they could be cousins or better haha.



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    #357933 - 02/05/10 07:11 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

It looks like your going to do a lot more then match my results.  My plants were smaller then that when I flipped them.  Although I think they have a lot of sativa traits in them.  Keep up the good work.  I really want to see how those turn out.

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    #357936 - 02/05/10 07:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

About the clones Inverted. I borrowed a reptile heating pad from a buddy for my batch. They are very thin and hit just about exactly 80degrees. not sure of the price but when i looked at seeding mats i decided it would be better, size was a factor too I didn't need a 2x4 mat to put 6 clones on :smile:

I just put it under a pie tin full of wetted perlite and set my jiffy's right on the perlite and under a clear rubbermaid tote. had my first roots in 8 or 9 days.


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    #358142 - 02/05/10 04:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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It looks like your going to do a lot more then match my results.  My plants were smaller then that when I flipped them.  Although I think they have a lot of sativa traits in them.  Keep up the good work.  I really want to see how those turn out.




Thanks buddy, It means a lot!  The 4 from Magash are all heavy Indica, just the way I like it.  The 4th, the Troublemaker (Hindu x Master Kush) is a little more lanky, but the Scrog should take care of that!  I snapped a couple quick shots after I trained all applicable tops, I also cleared out some of the undergrowth.

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About the clones Inverted. I borrowed a reptile heating pad from a buddy for my batch. They are very thin and hit just about exactly 80degrees. not sure of the price but when i looked at seeding mats i decided it would be better, size was a factor too I didn't need a 2x4 mat to put 6 clones on :smile:

I just put it under a pie tin full of wetted perlite and set my jiffy's right on the perlite and under a clear rubbermaid tote. had my first roots in 8 or 9 days.




That sounds like a good idea.  For now I'm just going to leave them be.  I can feel the warmth of the medium and they are all nice and happy inside their little domes.  All of them have vent holes in the top.  I have a good feeling about them.

Here's after training.  I hope this is worth it, because they seemed just fine the way they were, but I think it will keep everything really controlled.  They don't look the best but I'm sure after a few days things will need to be adjusted again.

I'm pretty happy with the results though, it pulled everything into the sweet spot of the HPS. 

 


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #358146 - 02/05/10 04:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

great pics of the LST. i like the set up man. if it was me, i personally would've built the new cab a wee bit bigger, but that's just me. :rofl:


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    #358154 - 02/05/10 05:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I will take better ones showing how I weaved them in, I knew you would say something... Hah.  It was pretty simple but I just wanted to show how the entire setup looks for now.

I would have built it bigger but I would have had to drop twice as much money on wood, and I only have a 150, there is no point to having more space in this setup because the light would be so weak by the time it reached the outer plants.  I like so size, and until I get more money and/or a larger light, I will stick with it.  You have to remember I also have another 2x2 box for vegetative plants.


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    #358436 - 02/06/10 12:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

that looks great and yeah with the growth you saw just last week i am sure it will fill that screen right up in a few days.


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    #359452 - 02/07/10 06:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You said it man, it's already pretty damn full, another week of heavy stretch and it'll be full, and whatever doesn't make it up to the screen will be trimmed away.

They are growing absolutely perfectly so far.  I'm just anxious to see some buds form.  I know it will be at least 3 weeks until I see anything significant but I know it will fly by.

I love how the screen keeps everything perfectly even.  I'll let the outside perimeter grow up a little so it will absorb more of the light.  I had to do some more weaving today, and I actually had fun adjusting everything.

I think it looks pretty good.  Another week and it will be sexier.



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    #359580 - 02/07/10 08:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

it looks beautiful man,i cant wait to see it full of bud.

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: enno]
    #359651 - 02/07/10 10:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Those are looking great man...  The scrog looks fun too... I love messing with my plants at least once a day.

Maybe you mentioned it, but are you using the rest of the FF line too?  You'll have to let us know how you're feeding the girls... Pretty much just according to the company chart?

Edit: I did find where you mentioned the Fish emulsion, but I'm still curious how you'll like  your new nutes too.

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    #361495 - 02/10/10 06:09 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Nice work man...:thumbup:

I'm not sure if you mentioned it earlier, but are you cuttin clones this spring? Those plants are growing so well as it is now, can't imagine what they would look like under the sun!

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    #361616 - 02/10/10 01:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Why thank you Farmer Joe!  Yes I took 6 clones, as I think I already found at least 2 phenos that I am in love with.

I am also in the process of breeding with this run.  I'm going to Choose at least 2-3 of the plants for some selective breeding.  The male I used was the fastest, most vigorous seedling, and also seemed to be the most indica of the pack.  I chose him over a few other males.  He was a definite winner, I can't wait to see what I can find in these genes.  I'm so happy.  I'm barely even devoting ANY space to breeding, because I don't even need that much.  I will do more precise selections after the outdoor crop, because I'm going to need a larger pool to find that one keeper.

Anyone want a bump?  :lol:



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    #361643 - 02/10/10 02:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

It's already time for another adjustment.  Man these plants are growing insanely fast, and are drinking a LOT.  I've had to feed every 2 days now.

This is Day 47, (Day 10 Flower)  Tops are just beginning to switch over to flowering now.  I'd say within a few days they will start becoming hairy.



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    #361698 - 02/10/10 04:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking great!  Can't wait to see a minefield of bud popping up in a few weeks :smile:


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    #361807 - 02/10/10 05:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

how exactly do you extract the pollen? just cut off the male parts and squeeze them open????


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #361809 - 02/10/10 05:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I saw a cool tek on how to do it once I'll try and find it for you.

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    #361954 - 02/10/10 08:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Lookin good!  Love that 3rd pic.

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    #362971 - 02/12/10 02:21 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I've been gone a few days just got back I see you have things moving right along nicely. :omgawesome:


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    #363640 - 02/13/10 03:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

God I cant wait for my grow room to look like that!

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    #363655 - 02/13/10 04:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I've been gone a few days just got back I see you have things moving right along nicely. :omgawesome:





Thanks Mag, I'm loving how fast these are growing and how uniformly.  I can definitely see which plants received what from the parent.  Only one of them is the Skunky pheno, the other 3 are more geared towards the Bubba.  They stink a LOT.  I hate to say it but I think one of the plants may be showing some hermie traits, and I can't for the life of me figure out why.  I'm 99% sure I haven't fucked up the lighting schedule or had ANY leaks...  Grrrr  Hopefully I am wrong about my assessment and when they mature more the true sex will show.

Every main top had female preflowers, but on one or two branches it looks like little male preflowers coming in.  Do you think they could still be female and judging this early is a waste?  The suspected male parts are still the size of a grain of sand still or smaller, so I suppose I could be wrong.  I just really hope I don't have to rearrange the scrog, I feel it would be bad for the plants.

Day 50, the start of the 8th week.

Day 13 of 12/12



Buds are forming sloooowly but I feel like that once they kick into flowering fully they are going to seriously take off.  I think the LST slowed down the hormone cycle.

P.S.  They look a little ragged and beat up because I took pics after heavy inspection and more adjustments.


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    #363673 - 02/13/10 04:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking great man!  I did the LST thing on my girls too but only once - they seemed to give me 2-3 extra nice tops that way.

Nice screen you have there - may have to try something like that down the road!

As you mentioned in my journal, we're pretty close to the same schedule! =)  It will be cool to compare our progress together!

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    #363915 - 02/14/10 08:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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P.S.  They look a little ragged and beat up because I took pics after heavy inspection and more adjustments.




I think you might be splitin hairs with that statement. Mine looks ragged and beat up, your is fucking sexy.


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    #364303 - 02/14/10 09:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #364373 - 02/14/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sweet!  Those are gonna be covered in buds in no time.

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    #364409 - 02/14/10 10:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Another beautiful grow my man!  I'll be keeping up with this one :vaped:




Thank you good sir!  How has life been treating you?  Are you still on a dry spell?  You really need to fix that... :wink:

I cannot explain how badly I want to see these to fruition, because my last grow was just getting me dialed in to indoor growing, now that I've got the swing of things in that department, you will see nothing but improvement out of me.  I am NEVER satisfied with my work.  Yes I may be proud of it but I can always find some way to improve.

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Sweet!  Those are gonna be covered in buds in no time.




I'll be happy if my results look anything like yours.  You came outta nowhere and produced this awesome grow with bagseed and even managed to wow our Picture forum mods with your results.  :thumbup:

I counted the other day and I have around 60 "potential" budsites, and that was a low end estimate because I don't believe they will all be of equal size.  Obviously the apical tips are going to have the largest buds, but the Hindu x Master in the back left corner is going to have no distinguishable main tip, as It behaved much differently to the LST, as it was more stretchy.  I really really like the smell coming off of that strain though, and the plant in the very middle of the screen is my favorite and I'm going to keep that pheno around if everything pans out, and the clone I took from her survives...


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    #364577 - 02/15/10 12:58 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

looking very nice man, shame to hear about the possible hermie, hope all turns out well for you


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    #364705 - 02/15/10 01:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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looking very nice man, shame to hear about the possible hermie, hope all turns out well for you





as long as it doesn't pollinate all the other ladies, i wouldn't mind just one hermie. i mean it's not all THAT bad. you've got a shitload of seeds.

wait, again, newb question. if you get a hermie, will those seeds be hermie if you planted one and started growing it? :confused: i think i heard somewhere they would, correct or no?


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    #364709 - 02/15/10 01:20 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

It's still to early to even tell, and for some odd reason it's showing up on only 1 or 2 of the biggest branches, NOWHERE else.  Just hairs all over.

The thing is, if it's a heavy hermie as I call it, and it's more than just a couple "nanners" shooting out, then chances are the seeds will produce Hermie offspring.

If it's a light hermie, so out of all the nugs, only a nanner or two pollinates the crop, then the chances are the seeds will be females.  You get my drift?

I don't want any hermies because I am sort of selective breeding with this crop as it is, so I don't want my results tainted.  I really don't know what to think.  I KNOW Magash wouldn't prodcuce seeds that had a tendency to herm, and I know I've covered all my loose ends before I even started this grow so I have no idea if it's really herming or not.  Like I said they are slow to start flowering from the training so it will be a week before I can say for sure.

Thanks guys.  I'm so happy with how everything is coming along.  I haven't even seen em for a couple days, I should probably get in there and feed.


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    #364717 - 02/15/10 01:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i get what you're saying. i would say just keep your eye on them. all you can do really, until you know for sure.


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    #364735 - 02/15/10 01:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You said it.  It would just be a shame to have one of these get the axe.

Especially since I've done a lot of work to fill that screen as evenly as possible, which is harder than I thought.  Keep for fingers crossed for me guys!


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    #364802 - 02/15/10 03:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I thought your screen looked well arranged. How is the chicken wire workin? would you go for bigger or smaller holes? I am thinking ahead cause I know that freezer isn't going to handle more then 1 without a screen, even then maybe still only 1.


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    #364825 - 02/15/10 04:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

They blew up a little bit after the 2 recent feedings with Cha Ching and another Bloom fert I use.  Schultz I think.  They were trained down the the screen 2 or 3 days ago, and are already a good 2-3 inches above it now.  I'm thinking about letting them go from now, what do you guys think?

I'd be willing to bet they aren't going to stretch much more at all and they will need some vertical growth for better bud formation along the main stem.  Just my thoughts on the matter.  Seeing as they are looking heavy on the Bubba side, I'd guess they aren't going to stretch much.



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Yeah I thought your screen looked well arranged. How is the chicken wire workin? would you go for bigger or smaller holes? I am thinking ahead cause I know that freezer isn't going to handle more then 1 without a screen, even then maybe still only 1.




Next time I'm going to build a frame that fits all the way to the walls, and is less space consuming.  I wasted 2-3 inches on every wall with the frame.  I'd also use larger holes.  I had the perfect screen but I lost it somewhere.  It was the netting that they wrap christmas trees in.  It was white plastic, super thin, and had holes that were about 2x2".  It gets hard to pull tops with fan leaves through 1 inch holes, but it was all I had to use at the time without spending money.  It works good because I can be more accurate with where the tops will end up, but in the long run it's more of a bitch to adjust.

And my hermie paranoia is fading.  I was just jumping the gun I think, because more of the preflowers I thought were suspect ended up shooting out hairs.  Pfew dodged a bullet there.  Magash would have kicked my ass if I grew a hermie lol.  I'm fucking stoked, sorry if I rant and seem like I'm bragging because that is NOT my intention at all.  I'm just excited and trying to keep a fairly detailed journal for everyone to learn from.


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    #364828 - 02/15/10 04:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Alright I've been following this since the start but I'm sick of having to search it out every time so I'm going to post here so it's easier to find :lol:

And it looks like they're far enough into flowering that you should stop tucking them under in my opinion. I've only scrogged once so take that with a grain of salt but I think letting them grow taller from this point on is going to make for a killer yield.


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    #364831 - 02/15/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Your grow is looking lovely! Also its hermie free!

The screen looks nice too, is it supported by the wall right now?

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    #364847 - 02/15/10 05:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Thanks man.  I bet your plants are going to turn out looking just as good, if not better then mine.  I made a few mistakes along the way and think I could do better next time.  That picture did turn out pretty good.  Never thought it would go up for POTM though.

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    #364852 - 02/15/10 05:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright I've been following this since the start but I'm sick of having to search it out every time so I'm going to post here so it's easier to find :lol:

And it looks like they're far enough into flowering that you should stop tucking them under in my opinion. I've only scrogged once so take that with a grain of salt but I think letting them grow taller from this point on is going to make for a killer yield.




That's exactly my logic on the issue.  I really think I'm going to blow away my last run with this one.  I have literally at least 10x as many budsites with the same amount of plants.  Woot woot for progress!

If I get anywhere near 4oz from this I will shit my pants.  I vegged for 5 weeks and 3 days so we'll see, there are 5 plants so I hope I get near an Oz per...
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Your grow is looking lovely! Also its hermie free!

The screen looks nice too, is it supported by the wall right now?




I knooooooooow!  I was so happy to check on them today to only see more and more hairs and no male parts.  I was giddy like a child.

Yes it is supported by the wall.  If you look close you can see 3 supports, one of which has my ghetto thermometer in there.  It works fine.


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Thanks man.  I bet your plants are going to turn out looking just as good, if not better then mine.  I made a few mistakes along the way and think I could do better next time.  That picture did turn out pretty good.  Never thought it would go up for POTM though.




I think you are not giving yourself as much credit as you deserve.  That was a fantastic grow and journal.  I personally loved it.  And the pictures and colors are all just sexy IMO.  I am confident this go round though, and I know this screen is going to be a cola minefield come harvest time, but I don't believe it til I see it!  Hairs are finally emerging, for some reason it took these plants forever to kick into flower.  I really think the LST messing with the hormone transfer had something to do with it, because overall everything is working out perfectly.  :strokebeard:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: dsotm]
    #364853 - 02/15/10 05:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

groovey I was thinking about the same type of mesh you had. I figure the holes being pretty flexible would make up for them being a bit smaller. Next round in the freeeeezer is going to be under a screen for sure.


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    #364858 - 02/15/10 05:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I really think Scrog or Heavy LST is what every personal/mini grower should implement for highest yield.  It's not that the overall yield is that much higher than non training, but the percentage of colas compared to popcorn buds is a whole different story.

I will probably have nearly no popcorn from this.  I cleaned up all the branches up to the screen so almost nothing is growing under the screen.

If I didn't train like this, I could easily see 1/4 of the bud weight in popcorn buds and hash pile contributions that otherwise could be large buds if using scrog.

I've always wanted to do it and this time I just said fuck it, I have to try it, what's there to lose!?  If I fucked it up I think I might lose a little yield, but would gain a lot more experience and would only improve.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #364859 - 02/15/10 05:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

nah it looks really good so far Inverted. If you keep on this track I think you're gonna shatter old records :thumbup:


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    #364862 - 02/15/10 06:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Harry, It means a lot coming from you!  :hi5:

I've never grown any genetics even close to this high quality, so more than anything I'm excited for the final product more than the yield.

You think I can hit 100g's?  I think it will be tough with this strain because Bubba is associated with low yields, but the Hindu x master Kush, and the plants that have more Super Skunk in them will yield fairly well.  Either way, I am confident that every bud that comes out of this harvest will be better than anything I've ever produced.  I wish I had lbs of the shit so I could send everyone a sample, but sadly I won't be so fortunate until after the outdoor season.  :wink:


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    #365331 - 02/16/10 02:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hey man just found this shite, looking pretty damn sweet man....

me you and harry need to get together and do some like ridiculously big grow, and maybe play some xbox lol


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    #365334 - 02/16/10 02:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a plan to me!!!  Haha.  I'm moving to CO in the coming year and I've got a lot of shit I have to take care of before I go, but I'm ready to dive into the caregiver scene...


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #365341 - 02/16/10 03:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Dude, I picked up the new High Times last night when I went to the store. There's a few articles about becoming a caregiver n shit. There's a couple farmers (brothers) in Montana that pretty much own the market. They will actually deliver to their customers though and sell the shit like 150$ cheaper per ounce than the other places do. Really good interview/article with Rick Simpson too. Shit got me really thinking about picking up and carrying my ass out to the midwest sometime in the future. Most of the issue was about the experience at Cannabis Cup though. Good issue all in all though, definitely worth the 6 bucks. Good read.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #365343 - 02/16/10 03:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

hurry up the both of you! the longer you wait the harder it's going to be to really get into it. market is getting flooded as we speak


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    #365349 - 02/16/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I know I know.  After this summer crop is my goal!


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    #365418 - 02/16/10 06:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What exactly is imperative for getting into the caretaking trade? I'm sure you have to get certified or get a card or whatever.  Then you basically just set up shot and getcho grow on? :confused:


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    #365507 - 02/16/10 07:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

This is what it takes in New mexico.....

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General Requirements:  A facility that qualifies to produce and distribute cannabis for medical use is limited to a combined total of ninety-five (95) mature plants and seedlings and an inventory of usable medical cannabis that reflects current qualified patient needs.  The non-profit will sell medical cannabis at a consistent unit price and without volume discounts.  Only non-profit organizations are eligible for licensure.

Application Requirements:  All applicants must develop and submit policies and procedures to produce and distribute medical cannabis.  The applicants, if licensed, would be required to maintain these policies and procedures on the premises. At a minimum, the application must include the criteria starting on page 2 of this document.  These pages should be used as the index for the application and must be completely filled out, including the page numbers where each item starts.

Sending an application to the Department of Health is in no way a guarantee that the applicant will receive a license.  The number of licenses issued to non-profit entities is at the discretion of the Secretary of the Department of Health and will be based upon assessment of the needs of qualified patients and the safety of the public. There is no specific time-line currently for the process of licensing non-profit producers.






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The application must include the following list as an index page and must include each of the specified items, in the order identified below.  This list must be completely filled out, and must identify the starting page of the application for each item.

 Pg. #____ Payment of non-refundable fee of $100. Please include a check or money order payable to the New Mexico Department of Health Medical Cannabis Program with your application.

 Pg. #____ Proof of non-profit status pursuant to NMSA 1978, Section 53-8-1 et seq..

 Pg # _____Copies of the non-profit’s articles of incorporation and by-laws.
 
 Pg. #____ A list of the board of directors for the non-profit.  The board of directors must include, but need not be limited to, one (1) physician, nurse or other health care provider, and three (3) patients currently registered in the New Mexico Medical Cannabis Program.

 Pg. #____ A list of all persons and businesses, if applicable, that have direct or indirect authority over the management of policies of the facility that will be used to produce medical cannabis.

 Pg. #____  A list of all persons or business entities having five percent or more ownership in the facility, and whether the interest is in profits, land or building, including owners of any business entity which owns all or part of the land or building.

 Pg. #____ A list of all creditors holding a security interest in the premises.

 Pg. #____ An acknowledgement that production will not exceed a total of ninety-five (95) mature plants and seedlings and an inventory of usable marijuana that reflects current qualified patient needs.

 Pg. #____ A description of the facility that will be used to produce cannabis.

 Pg. #____ Proof that the facility is not within three hundred (300) feet of any school, church or daycare center, including a map.

 Pg. #____ A description of the device(s) that will be used to provide security.

 Pg. #____ A description of the non-profit’s distribution criteria for qualified patients and approved caregivers.

 Pg. #____ Distribution criteria that include a clear identifiable photocopy of each registry identification card of a qualified patient and the patient’s caregiver (if applicable) who are served by the non-profit.

 Pg. #____ A description of how the non-profit will safely dispense the cannabis to qualified patients or to qualified patients’ primary caregivers.

 Pg. #____ A description of the non-profit’s policy on the right of the entity to refuse service.

 Pg. #____ A description/sample of the documents the non-profit will use to notify qualified patients and/or caregivers of the quality of the medical cannabis.

 Pg. #____ A description of the packaging for the medical cannabis that the non-profit will produce, including a label containing the name of the strain, batch, and quantity. The label must display a statement that the cannabis is for medical use only and not for resale.

 Pg. #____ A description/sample of the non-profit’s confidential sale records. Both clients and the Department of Health will have access to this information at any time.

 Pg. #____ A description of how the non-profit will educate qualified patients and caregivers on the limitation of the right to possess and use cannabis per the Lynn and Erin Compassionate Use Act, NMSA 1978, Section 26-2B-1 et seq.

 Pg. #____ A description of how the non-profit will keep staff and patients updated on informational developments in the field of medical cannabis

 Pg. #____ A description of safe smoking techniques, which the non-profit entity will provide to qualified patients and their primary caregivers.

 Pg. #____ A description of ingestion options of useable cannabis, which the non-profit entity will provide to qualified patients and their primary caregivers.

 Pg. #____ A description of potential side effects qualified patients could experience while using the cannabis, along with a description of how the non-profit entity will communicate that information to qualified patients and their primary caregivers.

 Pg. #____  An on-site training curriculum, or a copy of a contract or proposed contract with outside resources capable of meeting employee training needs, which training must include (but need not be limited to) training in professional conduct, ethics and patient confidentiality.

 Pg. #____ A description of the non-profit’s security policies, safety and security procedures, personal safety and crime prevention techniques.

 Pg. #____ A description of the non-profit’s training in security measures and specific instructions on how to respond to an emergency, including robbery or a violent accident.

 Pg. #____  Training documentation for each employee and a form to be signed by each employee indicating the date, time and place the employee received training and topics discussed, to include the name and title of presenters. The non-profit must maintain documentation of each employee’s training for at least six (6) months after termination of the individual’s employment.

 Pg. #____ A job description or employment contract developed for all employees, which includes provisions for employee duties, authority, responsibilities, qualifications and supervision.

 Pg. #____ Policies and procedures relating to an alcohol and drug free workplace program.

 Pg. #____ A personnel record for each employee that includes an application for employment and a record of any disciplinary action taken.

 Pg. #____ Documentation of completed background checks on all board members, employees or volunteers.  This includes anyone who has regular access to production facilities or records





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    #365511 - 02/16/10 07:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

As you can see the local medical cannabis industries are usually at the mercy of how the grow/distribution policies are written and implemented.  I would be curious to see what CO's requirements are, ive never looked theirs up.


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    #365561 - 02/16/10 08:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

wow. they make it more complicated than it really is, that's for sure.


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    #365748 - 02/16/10 10:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Nothing more complicated in those rules then you would do for any other business, except maybe background checks and the security details but that's to be expected.

I am always intrigued by laws which include language such as this:
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So basically even though the citizens have spoken there is still ample wiggle room to just not issue licences, just like they do in Sacramento, CA with concealed carry permits. Sheriff came right out and said he would only issue them to cops and judges.

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    #365771 - 02/16/10 10:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

it already is a hotspot.  It's one of the most liberal states next to CA, when it comes to cannabis for medicinal purposes.


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    #365897 - 02/17/10 03:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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lol you know you're addicted to gardening when; life decisions revolve around the OD season...

And there's always WA...  The MMJ laws are pretty liberal yet there's huge opportunities because collectives and dispensaries aren't technically allowed (yet)... The new mayor of Seattle is making serious efforts to fully legalize in the city as well.

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    #365958 - 02/17/10 09:21 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I knew CO had just implemented some new laws on Jan. 1 but I didn't know they were that liberal. Being I am a west coaster I kind of figure the list starts with CA and then WA or OR. on that note a buddy just got a nice surprise in OR while he was road tripping. They got pulled over with a lit joint (don't smoke and drive it just gives us all a bad name imo) any ways they got rid of it but the cop immediately said 'hand me the pot' to which they replied 'what pot'. The officer took their ID's and told them to think about it while he checked them out. Turns out it's not illegal to have less then an Oz or something there now so all the cop did was take it. He even left the sneak a toke they tried to give him and the papers and didn't search the truck either so they kept a small chunk of hash to get them home.


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    #366065 - 02/17/10 12:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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And there's always WA...  The MMJ laws are pretty liberal yet there's huge opportunities because collectives and dispensaries aren't technically allowed (yet)... The new mayor of Seattle is making serious efforts to fully legalize in the city as well.




What are the huge opportunities in WA? They gimped caregivers by stipulating they can only supply one single patient, and they must be responsible for the housing, health, or care of that
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    #366174 - 02/17/10 03:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

  Well I guess there aren't 'huge opportunities' yet, but if you wanted to gamble on the next state to get a head start in, I think it'd be a decent one... Our legislators address the MMJ laws regularly, and as I mentioned there's a push to legalize in seattle, starting with the new mayor...
  I was under the impression that the caregiver thing was not limited to only patients you live with, as there are clubs and stuff around here where people can hook up and find caregivers, but you may be right.  The laws also seem to be written so that it's fairly easy to sell to patients... I think it's currently under the guise of a 'donation' system, but a quick search on craigslist can find you buds delivered to your door with proper ID.

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    #367536 - 02/18/10 07:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I know lol. I was thinkin the same thing. Shit was goin off topic fast.

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    #367578 - 02/18/10 07:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #368369 - 02/19/10 08:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I know lol. I was thinkin the same thing. Shit was goin off topic fast.

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It's coming along nicely now.  For some reason the BK x SS took their time switching over to flower production.  At 17 days the first hairs started clustering, and I hadn't seen them since then.  I came home today and watered/mini flushed them and took some macros and what do ya know, they are already covered in trichomes... Thank you Lord Magash!  :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

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How those ladies looking inverted?




Take a look for yourself good sir.  :thumbup:

I really try to make each update land on a Friday, but that doesn't always happen.  They sprouted on a Friday so that's why I try to keep track of them that way. 

:sunny:  I can't believe there are this many trichs this early...  :eek:  This is going to blow away ANYTHING I've ever grown before!  The stink level is also reaching Critical.  :grin:

Thank you so much Mag Man  :hi5:

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    #368371 - 02/19/10 08:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm excited now. The process has begun. Well, like really begun. Know what I mean? Good. You do understand that you will have to post more pics now, right? :shrug:


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    #368372 - 02/19/10 08:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:drooling:


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    #368375 - 02/19/10 09:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Wow!  this shit is getting pretty epic.  The leaves loook great.  Nice vibrant coloring.  Some of those leaves loook like they could turn purple over night or maybe they already have a shade of purp.  Beautiful plants, no doubt about it.


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    #368390 - 02/19/10 10:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You guys are going to make me blush!

I can't believe they just kicked into flowering like a snap of the fingers... BAM!  Little nugglets from nowhere and frosty to boot!

Usually I don't see trichs like that until 4-5 weeks in... I'm almost speechless.

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    #368392 - 02/19/10 10:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No less than 16 pictures every four hours with 4 close ups. You have your instructions. We will be waiting. :sparta:


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    #368395 - 02/19/10 10:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I can't wait to see your scrog setup INverted.  That hybrid you have sure does have good genetics.  I plan on starting my own SCROG very soon of Afghan x Master Kush.  I call it...

Master Afghan.

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No less than 16 pictures every four hours with 4 close ups. You have your instructions. We will be waiting. :sparta:




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    #368399 - 02/19/10 10:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Oh that sounds like a good cross man.  I'd veg them big and start training early, because you won't get that stretch to fill the screen you are looking for.  I was lucky and the plants veg'd very well and even.  I have a feeling I'm going to get my ass couchlocked with at least 4 of the ladies.  The only plant that has any sativa in it, I think has the most Super Skunk pheno, and the leaves have a near blue hue to them.  It's my favorite female, it grew very fast and had the most appealing/healthy look the entire time.  The only strain that survived the cloning fuck up was from that plant as well, so obviously it's a hardy strain.  I'm going to work with it for those properties, as well as easily clone.

Ugh I am stoned as shit, I need to stop.  I will NOT accept your demands :hitler:

You will get pictures every Friday, and maybe some sneak peaks every 4 days or so but I don't want to ruin the surprises.  I want it to look like progress has been made each time I post pictures, so it doesn't look boring.  :lol:

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #368400 - 02/19/10 10:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

DID YOU KNOW that Hitler was injected with methamphetamine every morning by his personal doctor? I was just fuckin around, it's all good dude, post em whenever you want :lol:

Good time for an FBD question :yesnod:

When you cross a strain, say kush and haze, or whatever it may be, are you creating an entirely new strain? I mean, you wouldn't be if other people have made the same crosses, right? But you would if people haven't done it before. But who's to know? And dank strains are just crosses upon crosses right? To make a new dank strain? Where does it all stem from? But you can always keep seeds of the originals of course. I'm too high to be tryin to think about this :rofl: I feel like a cat chasing it's tail


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    #368436 - 02/20/10 01:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking good my friend, whens your approx. chop date?


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Two weeks behind me and it looks like your gonna have more trics then me pretty fuckin soon. :thumbup:

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    #368742 - 02/20/10 02:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #368761 - 02/20/10 02:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

When are you gonna start your grow?

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    #368765 - 02/20/10 03:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I dunno man. Right now, I can't do to circumstances. I'll just say that. When they'll change, I'm not quite sure. Believe me, I think about it everyday. As well as when I'm trying to go to sleep.


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    #368859 - 02/20/10 04:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I can grow and I think about it every night before I sleep... Shit sucks man all I see in my head is a new 250 or 400w setup floating around.

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    #369240 - 02/21/10 11:32 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Call it what you want but it never stops. Once you finally get the garden of your dreams up and running the next garden of your dreams pops into your head or how to make it better and so on. Even better is when one garden of your dreams isn't enough and now you gotta have 4 gardens of your dreams. Just never stops. :wink:


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    #369264 - 02/21/10 12:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

hmmmmmmmmm :sad:

Right now, my only options are outdoor or a co-op. I'm not really tryin to go co-op to be honest. The only person that's going to know about what I'm doing is going to be me. Outdoor is an option I've really been considering choosing for now. I know this area like the back of my hand, but around the end of summer/beginning of fall, there's choppers flyin around here all the time. Where I live is still all, "Weed is crack, you'll be suckin dick in no time." So you get busted with .3 on you (why you're even carrying that around, I dunno, or didn't just toss it, I'll never know) you're gettin a charge, probation, about 1500-2000 thousand dollars when it's all said and done. Definitely gotta be on my pees and ques around here.


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    #369270 - 02/21/10 12:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah dude, that sucks. Im glad I live in CO.

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    #369286 - 02/21/10 12:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

oh you do? where abouts?  we might be pretty close and you might have to come help me smoke some of that shit in my sig :wink:


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    #369300 - 02/21/10 12:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Call it what you want but it never stops. Once you finally get the garden of your dreams up and running the next garden of your dreams pops into your head or how to make it better and so on. Even better is when one garden of your dreams isn't enough and now you gotta have 4 gardens of your dreams. Just never stops. :wink:




Hahah that's definitely me.

A few years ago it was 15-20 outdoor plants, then 25-30, now this year I'm going for the 50-60 mark.  You nailed that one. :lol:

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    #369414 - 02/21/10 02:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I can grow and I think about it every night before I sleep... Shit sucks man all I see in my head is a new 250 or 400w setup floating around.

It's an addiction that's for sure.  I call it a hobby though :wink:




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oh you do? where abouts?  we might be pretty close and you might have to come help me smoke some of that shit in my sig :wink:




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    #369423 - 02/21/10 03:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Look at that Inverted.  Your grow log is connecting people.  Those two could meet and then start something that revolutionizes the world of cannabis.  interesting stuff.  all the things that had to go just right for all that to happen, from the decision to start the shroomery to the growery from all our your deciisions to be here, now.  it's incredible.  but anyway, sorry to digress your log.  carry on with the beautiful cannabis plants!


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    #369429 - 02/21/10 03:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That was awesome, I geeked out after reading that.  Reminds me of the way I think on LSD...

Awww you don't want repetitive pictures do ya?  I know Friday seems like a long way... Damnit, I hate time.


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    #374372 - 02/26/10 08:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Day 63

26 days into flower.

Not really too much to say here.  Things are rolling along smoothly.  Lucid picked up the FloraNova line and shared 1/2 with me, so I gave them a good feeding of that tonight, and am going to lay off of the nutes for a while, and then will give them one last feeding.  I'm trying a long flush on these ladies.  I didn't get the pollen on any branches tonight, but tomorrow I will.  I'm loving the variances in each plant.  One of them pictured has SNOW WHITE pistils.  I thought most pistils were white until I saw how bright these were, you can see for yourself in the photos, it's near the front door side, with DARK green leaves.



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    #374381 - 02/26/10 09:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

geez, look at that.  Already starting to get some bulk to them!  It looks like these plants are going to have a nice high calyx to leaf ratio.


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    #374443 - 02/26/10 11:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

:yourock:

That's plain gorgeous...How do you still have leaves under that canopy?

My friend and I were talkin bout SCROG today.  He said something like 1 inch squares are the best, but I was going to go with some 2 inch ones cause I already have it...

I don't why he assumes this, but it got me thinking after pointing out you still have leaves under the canopy...

If the nodes are still alive under the canopy, could you top the whole canopy come harvest, and start veg over again?  I normally would consider starting over, but it sounds really convenient and sensible if the plant doesn't die.

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    #374451 - 02/27/10 12:13 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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bout time you updated. shit's lookin good man. :thumbup:


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    #374462 - 02/27/10 01:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

:awehigh:

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    #374491 - 02/27/10 08:10 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Love those trichs. Bet your glad you flowered when you did now that box is looking packed.


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    #374550 - 02/27/10 11:18 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'm guessing 7 pounds!


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    #374561 - 02/27/10 11:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Wow thank you all, I didn't think it was that nice!?

Praise Magash, he's the father of these genes.  I just happen to be handy with DIY and finally wanted to apply some of my knowledge.  I'm getting pretty anxious, as you know I am relying on myself to smoke unless I get lucky.  I'm keeping a close eye on your shit Harry, I think this will be your best run yet...

I think I will get a few ounces, nothing spectacular but it's definitely going to be pretty decent considering I'm only using a 150w.  I did a pretty adequate job of training everything into the screen, although some plants unexpectedly stretched more than others, so there wasn't much I could do with out more space.  My screen is LOADED!

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    #374646 - 02/27/10 02:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Looking great dude, you're going to have a good pull!


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    #375062 - 02/28/10 09:35 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks dude!  I'm very happy about the pace of flowering.  It took them a while to get going but they have really taken off.  It's really impressing me.

I took a couple shots really quick last night right after the lights went off.  Sorry for the quality the camera has problem auto-focusing in the dark :tongue:  I don't think the buds are going to be very big, but I do think that these are going to be really really good.  I foresee the Skunk Pheno plant will be yielding good, as well as the Hindu x Master in the back left corner.  She's super super frosty too and smells very unique.  I almost wanted to say hashy/sandalwood type smell.  I love it...  I've never used genetics this nice before.



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Those are looking nice and healthy.

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    #375734 - 02/28/10 10:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

:sunny:  Thank you man, I've been feeding them a lot, and am going to back off from now on.

They are very thirsty, and I'm going to start giving them good waterings every 2 days, I want to make sure they are not transpiring off the water faster than the roots can uptake it because of my low RH (~30%).

I just wish I could have a hydro setup, it seems like they produce faster and larger than soil, but I do have a lot of experience with soil and think I have it figured out.  We'll see.  3 of the plants were showing a lot of Bubba during veg so they might have some low yields.  We shall see :sherlock:

:awetongue:  They have a lot of time left, but I just don't have any idea on yield at all still.  I am wondering if I reduced my potential yield by implementing the scrog.  What do you guys think?


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    #375871 - 03/01/10 06:13 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think you should stress bout yield beautiful plants great genetics the smoke will be fantastic. I reckon u got more by scroggin it tho, you'll see the benefits of it once they start densing up soon. good job brother

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    #376222 - 03/01/10 02:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

everything I've read is that Scrog is supposed to increase your yields....


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #376249 - 03/01/10 03:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

True.  I just think yields will be low because of the lineage.  That's fine with me though because if it's really that good, then I won't need to smoke much to get high.  I just checked on them and they are really really starting to put off some odor.  I can't stress enough how anxious I am for them to finish up.

:vaped:  Although this has given me a chance to sample the local herb, which is always like 100% amber trichs and couchlock to shit.  I grew up on weed like that though so I like it for the most part, except for wake n bakes...


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    #376254 - 03/01/10 03:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Heh i feel that. I love me some slow onset couchlocking indicas but whenever i find some thats really good i try to get a bowl of something else thrown in for the mornings.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: pha3r0]
    #376435 - 03/01/10 07:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I've found that most often strains which are low yielder's make up for lack of weight with an increase in potency.  The shittiest yielding plant I grew ended up being the strongest smoke I've harvested.  I'm gonna take another crack at that one probably this fall, I only got one shot with her and I had a hard time due to problems.

Anyways, that screen is packed man, you'll take in a nice harvest regardless of final weight.  I would much rather yield less but have to smoke less, then pull in a pound but need a gram to catch a buzz.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: coda]
    #376447 - 03/01/10 07:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

i think you did the right thing scrogin it.  :cheers: to a bountiful harvest!


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #376464 - 03/01/10 07:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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True.  I just think yields will be low because of the lineage.  That's fine with me though because if it's really that good, then I won't need to smoke much to get high.  I just checked on them and they are really really starting to put off some odor.  I can't stress enough how anxious I am for them to finish up.

:vaped:  Although this has given me a chance to sample the local herb, which is always like 100% amber trichs and couchlock to shit.  I grew up on weed like that though so I like it for the most part, except for wake n bakes...




The high will have a little of the couch lock to it but will have that sativa effect on the head. Now as far as the yields go don't sweat it there not gonna be low. By the time they finish you should have a pretty nice chunk of bud. They will explode in the last week or two of flowering. :wink:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Magash]
    #376482 - 03/01/10 07:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Coda- Yeah that seems to be the case.  I agree with you on the higher quality thing.

FB-  Each week seems to take longer than the last, but it will be well worth the wait!  I think I made the right choice too.  Only a few branches were lost, but they were donated to my veg/clone box :awesome:

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The high will have a little of the couch lock to it but will have that sativa effect on the head. Now as far as the yields go don't sweat it there not gonna be low. By the time they finish you should have a pretty nice chunk of bud. They will explode in the last week or two of flowering. :wink:




It's so awesome to have you here and able to clarify things like that!  I'm really glad because I know you know more about the final product than I ever will!  So far each phenotype has it's strong points, and there is no severe differences.  The one skunk pheno is going to have a huge top bud, I can tell.  It's not as developed as the more indica leaning plants, but I bet it will take longer to mature and have a heavier budset.

I'm so stoked, the smell is like nothing I have ever encountered, I can't even begin to describe it, but it's definitely berry/fruity.  Very strong aroma lingers in the room after a light brush against some of the tops.  I bet these will taste absolutely amazing with a good cure!


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #376485 - 03/01/10 08:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

How long would you say they will go?  9-10 Weeks?


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    #378626 - 03/04/10 09:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

If you see this MAGASH, please answer this.

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How long would you say they will go?  9-10 Weeks?




I added 4 CFL's to my setup.  I figure the corners could use a boost as the buds furthest from the bulb were lacking compared to the tops in the sweet spot.  I think 150 more watts of red spectrum lighting should help.  I instantly noticed more illumination of the lower growth below the top buds, since light is now coming from more than one angle.  I hope this helps boost my buds a little!  They are really coming along (I think) and the odor is definitely making it's presence known!  Full update coming tomorrow.



I smoked some Bubba Kush with Lucid tonight!  It was great, definitely fits my type of high.  I know it's not going to be the same but at least It's similar.  I also took some pics of his grow of the plants I threw his way when I ran out of space :wink:  They were 3-4 weeks into 12/12 when I gave them to him and he uses a 400w and they are now 8 weeks in and have HUGE buds.  I was so impressed.  Check out the thread in the Pictures Forum.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #378662 - 03/04/10 10:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Those added CFLs make the setup look really pro. I don't think you could arrange the lights any more efficiently.

One thing that has always shyed me away from scrogs is losing the ability to rotate my plants. You've just eliminated that need with side lighting in every corner though. You're making me want to scrog. :thumbup:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #378741 - 03/05/10 10:16 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thank you brother!  That makes me feel good coming from you.  I have no money so this entire grow has been as efficient as possible.  I hope I reap the rewards.  :wink:

I think the buds have a lot of expanding to do.  After seeing how big the nugs became on the plants I gave to Lucid, I feel better.  His were the same size as mine are now, and a month later they are like I said earlier, fist sized.  I don't expect mine to get quite that large, well since I don't have a 400w, but also because of the strain.  I am starting to think about it too much, the last week has taken so much longer than it should have...

You can bet your ass that I'm gonna let these mature completely.  I'm a couchlocker, and getting some of that "stone" feeling pretty much must be present or I feel I'm just not getting high.


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    #378769 - 03/05/10 11:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I know what you mean about thinking about it to much, I harvest in a little more then a week now and I think about it all the time, lol this week is going to crawl im sure...


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Frizzleman]
    #379252 - 03/06/10 07:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Well I didn't get my update again... Sorry guys.

The lights turned off on me when I was working on the plants.  I went through and cleared out the "suckers" from under the screen AGAIN and so far I have pretty much filled a small garbage can with fan leaves and scrap from this grow so far.  The plants are looking really really great and healthy, and I think I took care of the salt buildups just in time with the recent flushing.

I raised my HPS because some of the pistils started turning on the buds in the sweet spot under the bulb, and having it that close is great for the middle of the screen, but then because of the low bulb height, the angle of the light striking the branches/buds around the perimeter of the screen is lacking.  I raised it 2" from 4 to 6 inches and the light seemed to be hitting everything a lot more evenly.  I also think the heat was starting to stress those buds.  I've seen the signs before and I am glad I changed it now before the buds start to "bulge" at the top instead of grow like a spear.  I'm really happy about the layout of the tops and the setup of the lighting now.  I really feel like I might surprise myself come harvest time. :wink:

I also found a handful of nice branches that were buried under the canopy and yellowing from light starvation.  I navigated them into open areas and I gotta say, there are TOO many tops in this screen.  I never thought I would have to say that!  :lol:  I just can't find the heart to actually cut branches down, so I'm just going to let it be the most dense little cannaforest I have ever grown or maybe even seen!  I have to say I'm pretty proud of my work on this one, I really applied myself like I used to.  The basement is really starting to stink, so it's going to be a nice month...  I think my original estimate was close, there are about 20-25 tops that are going to really bring in weight (2-4 gram buds), and probably another 15-20 that won't be great, but will still be 1-2 gram buds or so, plus all of the popcorn below the initial fan leaf canopy.  I'm so excited to blast them with nutrients tomorrow to try to instigate a bud growth burst, and also take pictures although I did just show you the setup 2-3 days ago.


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    #379267 - 03/06/10 08:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #379280 - 03/06/10 09:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hell yeah dude....:popcorn: nugs FTW :lol:

You just answered a question of mine about density and all that under the screen. I couldn't see myself cutting a branch it it's gonna produce a nug, fuck that shit. Glad to hear everything is going well.

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #379574 - 03/07/10 05:23 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Man I don't even feel like taking pics of them.  I'm just not seeing much budding progress at all for some reason.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong!?!?

I mean they look like they are 3 weeks into 12/12, but today is the end of the 5th week!  Shouldn't there be some nice sized buds already???  I'm kinda getting worried, because they are either going to take forever to bulk up and finish, or my yields are just going to absolutely suck.  I really don't know what is wrong, everything seems perfect, but the buds just aren't trucking along like they should.  I know it can't just be because I'm only using a 150w HPS, because my last grow the buds were pretty fucking big.  I don't know what to say... :nonono:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #379577 - 03/07/10 05:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Great things come to those who wait.:yesnod:

Magash has said that his genetics tend to pack on the weight in the last few weeks of flowering so just give it time man.

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    #379578 - 03/07/10 05:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah you are probably right Stoneth, that is what he said.  Also I went back and looked at my last run and my buds look about the same size as they did in that run and those turned out to be big nice nugs, so I think I'm just getting myself worked up because I see other Hydro grows were after 35 days in they have full size colas already, I suppose I can't really compare a soil grow to a hydro grow in that sense.  Thanks for the reassurance.  :thumbup:  I think the Skunk pheno cola is going to be huge because it has just started to form... lol


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    #379882 - 03/08/10 09:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #380205 - 03/08/10 04:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think you're gonna be fine. I think you mentioned you recently flushed them and were fucking around with the branches under the screen a lot.  The plant is just getting it's bearings back a little I think man.  Once you start feeding again, I have a feeling things will go back to normal (budding and whatnot).

So like Stoneth said, patience is a virtue. Well, that's not what he really said, but you get it. Right? Good. :rofl:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #380375 - 03/08/10 07:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Day 35 of 12/12 (I estimate the first pheno will finish at 60, and last at ~70+ days)

Yeah, I'll be fine alright, but I just like it when my plants produce BIG nugs.

I'm the type of guy that will sacrifice quantity for higher quality so it's all good!  I just think I got an unlucky sativa pheno, because it's barely budding, but looks like it will have big buds in the long run, it's just going to take me 10 or 11 weeks to finish her.  It also showed the traits in the leaves during Veg, but didn't stretch like a sativa.  Very cool.  I won't mind waiting for her to finish because one of the plants is on course and doing like I expected them all to do, but they all vary!  I like variety in smoke so I guess that works out too!  3 of the clones ended up surviving, alone in the dark somehow, so 3/4 phenos have been preserved, along with another batch I took a week ago that seem to be rooting because I have all the right equipment for cloning now, minus the rockwool.  Depleted soil seems to be working in lieu for the time being.

Here is a photo of the SS sativa'ish phenotype.  You can see it in the center, slightly taller than her surrounding tops, but that is the apical tip of that plant.  The surrounding tops are other pheno's I believe.



And some other random shots of the girls.  I didn't get a close up of the back/left side but you get the idea, some tops are further ahead of others for reasons unknown, but if it comes down to it, I'll just harvest the tops that are mature as I go along.



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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #380443 - 03/08/10 08:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Looks great.  Nice and frosty.  Those are some very healthy looking plants.  Nice and green. 

I would think the buds are not going to get as big because you're doing scrog.  Instead of a nice coke can cola you're going to get lots of smaller ones.  It probably wouldn't hurt to upgrade that 150 at some point too.

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: dsotm]
    #380446 - 03/08/10 08:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Well said sir and thank you for reminding me of that fact.  I totally blanked that out for some reason.  You are right about the 150w, but the thing is, it's going to give me nearly the same intensity as a 250 or 400 because I keep it so close that the lumens at canopy level are still quite impressive.

If I were to expand on this AT ALL, that is going to be the first thing replaced... :wink:  Although it did create big colas with my last plants so I have hope still!  Soil is just slower than Hydro, plain and simple.


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    #380603 - 03/09/10 02:42 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Nice looking plants there.  I do see some speckling on some of those fan leaves that looks like spider mite damage, but it could easily be artifacts from the camera shot.

I would say cola size in respect to flowering time is totally subjective to strain, and adding those supplemental CFLs is a definite plus.  When it comes to bud size light is easily the #1 factor.  All the bud boosters in the world can't compete with more light.  I notice you said they were red spectrum, which is an obvious choice due to it being the better for flower development.  However, if you were to add a daylight spectrum CFL or two, 6500K preferably, you would also get UVB, which has been shown to have a positive effect of bud density.  I even use two 42W 6500K CFLs in addition to my 600W Hortilux HPS.

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    #380631 - 03/09/10 05:14 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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If I were to expand on this AT ALL....




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    #380667 - 03/09/10 09:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The speckling is because I just misted the plants right before I took the pictures.  I don't usually but the lights just went out so I figured I'd give it a shot in the dark since it won't cause any harm then.  Awesome I'll be checking the mail shortly!

Dr. - I can't expand on my setup in my current situation.  Trust me, I do all my work in the summer, so in a couple months look for some new logs... :wink:  I prefer trees.


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    #380689 - 03/09/10 10:53 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That sucks man, I feel for you. I want to see what you can do with a big(ger) light. I understand where you're coming from though.


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    #382122 - 03/11/10 06:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Took a macro, as well as the pictures for tomorrow's update.

I thought about it for a while and came to the fact that I'm spreading my light out too far, so now I'm going to tie the HPS off to one side, and switch after 6 hours, so each half gets much more intense light for 6 hours and still gets ok light for the other 6, more like the sun.  I am doing it as an experiment and really think it will improve on bud growth.

Anyways here's a picture or two.



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    #382141 - 03/11/10 07:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That's a great overall cab shot. Best one you have taken yet of the whole setup. Can't wait to see it fill out. :thumbup:


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    #382151 - 03/11/10 07:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

man I wish you were running a 400W in there. those nugs would be freakin' huge right now


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    #382540 - 03/12/10 02:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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That's a great overall cab shot. Best one you have taken yet of the whole setup. Can't wait to see it fill out. :thumbup:




Thanks man, I thought it came out well too for some reason.  My lens was dirty and after I cleaned it, the auto-focus feature seemed to work better.

Do you want me to take one from further back so you can get an idea of then entire space?

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man I wish you were running a 400W in there. those nugs would be freakin' huge right now




Man, that's the reason I can't sleep at night lately.  I've been thinking about that so much.  All I need to do is buy a reflector and I can use my friends spare ballast.  The reflector he bought, is almost the exact same dimensions as my interior dimensions, so if I modified the reflector it would be easy to cool if it's a near seal up against the walls.

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    #382543 - 03/12/10 02:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Is that 150W you have now internally ballasted? like one of those sunsystem jobbers? Too bad....

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    #382558 - 03/12/10 03:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah it is, but the actual ballast doesn't put off much heat at all, it's all from the bulb...  I should have been manually moving the light from side to side before, I think it's going to help me...

Who knows.  I'm really only growing these for experience and to hold me over until my growing season starts around here.  I just like the freedom of growing under the sun.  No wiring to worry about, no fans, nothing, just fresh air and warm sunshine.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #382730 - 03/12/10 07:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Pictures from day 37 or 38 of 12/12

Enjoy!  I just gave them a full strength feeding (Day 40 today) of FN Bloom and Cha Ching, w/ Molasses.  I hope I see more swelling but some of the original calyx's are really swollen, I like how this bud swells!  I love buds that have this structure, super resin coated too.  I'm going to be so pleased w/ the final product, I'll tell you that up front, it's probably the dankest bud I have ever grown, but just wait, I have a real strong feeling things are really going to pick up in the next 2 weeks...



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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #382739 - 03/12/10 07:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #382762 - 03/12/10 08:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That's lookin beautiful man.... I'm thinking you could definitely be maxing out your setup with this harvest, looks really dialed in.  :crazy2::thumbup:

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    #382889 - 03/13/10 05:35 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

coming along quite nicely inverted.

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #382892 - 03/13/10 06:01 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'm wondering how the different Kush strains are going to do comparing them with each other. I am starting a few of the F1 and F2 kush and berry strains soon, and some parent strains, too, like the Afghan Kush, and Black Domina.
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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: jwes420]
    #382908 - 03/13/10 07:47 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

and again man,beautiful grow :dancer:

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    #383183 - 03/13/10 09:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thank each one of you so much, that means a lot to hear such kind words.

I really do think I have it maxed out with the lighting I have.  If I had a 250 in there, my buds would probably be twice the size... Ah well, what can ya do, I don't have a job but if I can score $70 for a reflector I can have a 400 going...  :drooling:

I took a couple pictures just now in the dark cycle real quick, since I gave them a massive feeding, they have REALLY started packing on the trichomes, and since I started moving the light from one side to the other like a light rail, I have noticed stimulation from the buds!  I knew it would work.  I have already noticed some bulking in 2 days.  The strain is also a late bloomer it seems as well, but I'm definitely seeing the majority of the buds, seem to be Bubba dominant.  I can just tell by looking at them and their structure, and from seeing many Bubba Kush grow logs on IC.  I hope I get a tint of purple if I let them go the distance!  I think the final product is going to be quite elite, definitely seems like the frostiest I may have grown, but we'll see.  I'm sure they still have a lot of work to do, but that's fine with me.  I haven't taken a sample yet but I plan to soon :wink:



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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #383320 - 03/14/10 12:01 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #383422 - 03/14/10 10:22 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

oh yeah those really coming along man.

I never realized that was just a 150 up there?!?!!! getting some nice results never the less I would like to see what magash's shit does under a 400, oh wait I have seen that already in his pics (prolly he uses 1kw's ehh?)

Anyways they are officially frostier then mine now, by a good ways too. I can't wait for my next cycle when I have some more resources and have my cannabis kung-fu  up to snuff. Whatever strain I have has some potential but I know I missed the boat by burning it and not keeping the temps controlled as well as I should.

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    #383498 - 03/14/10 12:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #383505 - 03/14/10 12:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

fuck yah man, they really took off now!  Looking really good, looking forward to your harvest pics :smile:


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    #383764 - 03/14/10 09:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

fucking NICE man......you got some sweet babies there

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    #383872 - 03/15/10 04:09 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #385057 - 03/16/10 09:11 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Oh my such awesome responses you guys rock, thank you!

It won't be long now 2 weeks, maybe a little longer for some.  I was forced to sample, since I can't go a day w/out smoking and haven't been able to get any for a couple days.  I only take the smallest little one hitter sized nugs from the bottom of the canopy, that won't really produce anyhow.  It's even frosty as fuck down in that mass, what a strain!  Each pheno smells different but all amazing nonetheless, and I can't really decide how to describe it.  Sometimes I get a strong whiff of fruitiness, then a hint of berry, and even some more woody/musky scents too.  Very complex, but even the quick dried one hitters I smoked tasted SO GOOD and so smooth compared to my last run, not even close.  I'm fairly fucking baked and it's still got a long way to go.  I'm so excited now that I know it already packs a punch and still has up to 1/3 of the flowering period remaining.  Thank you all for the compliments, really.  It makes me feel a lot more mellow and stop analyzing everything so much, I'm OCD like that.  I think the next update in 4-5 days is going to be a good one.  :wink:

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    #385163 - 03/16/10 11:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Oh man, I didn't realize that you were making a growlog Inverted...my bad.

Damn you got some amazing Scrog plants there....I bet the final yield will be off the charts! Is this a combo of Scrog and Sea of Green (SOG)?

And they look so healthy! Like lacking nothing, light, nutrients, love....its all there. You can really see how good a grower you are.

I can't believe those are only at 37 days of flowering...those are fast! Whats the total time supposed to be?

I really like that photo underneath the plants: its cool to see how the stems are being trained into the screen and how frickin' thick those stems are. DamN!

I wish I had the time and resources to do a good that big....man....

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #386463 - 03/19/10 12:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

MEGA PICTURE EXTRAVAGANZA!!!

Some are truly the best I've ever taken.  If you have the time check out each one.  I only posted the good ones :wink:  BTW it's day 46 flower.  Getting closer...  :yesnod:



Holy fucking :happyweed:

I'd say some will be done in about 10 days while others will take upwards of 20 more, but that's okay.  I am in love and proud of the macro photos I took!  I hope you any of these enough to nominate! 

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    #386465 - 03/19/10 01:08 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Holy Fuckin' Bejesus! That's Insane! :happyweed:

Its....so....beautiful....:tearawesome:

I can't imagine what the yield will be...pounds?! :eek:! I bet you could get stoned just by standing over the middle of it and inhale...AhooouuuuU! Mmmmm....

I love those macros...what kind of equipment are you using for those amazing macro shots? Looks pretty advanced! But my favorite is number one....Pic of the Month my friend! And that underleaf one on top-row, 6th one across....Mmmmm...:awesome::thumbup:

I wanna slap you I'm so jealous.....slap you with a Super High-Five!  :highfive:

Man, that Scrog method really makes a difference! Must be what pro-growers use huh?

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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #386474 - 03/19/10 02:25 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Looking sweet as shit bro I think a couple of mine might be finishing up the same time :bongload:


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    #386488 - 03/19/10 03:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Been busy as shit and just got myself caught up on what is going on here. Looks like  you have things handled nicely. :thumbup:


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    #386699 - 03/19/10 10:21 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

all fucking right man!

You got trichs growing on trichs there man fucking insane. I am going to have to step it up this next round haha.


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    #388034 - 03/21/10 10:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Awesome pics man. Awesome grow, all of it. :congrats:

I know it's not quite done yet, but I think you'll be able to handle it from here :lol:.

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    #388041 - 03/21/10 10:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #388059 - 03/22/10 12:02 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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    #388197 - 03/22/10 11:22 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Holy Fuckin' Bejesus! That's Insane! :happyweed:

Its....so....beautiful....:tearawesome:

I can't imagine what the yield will be...pounds?! :eek:! I bet you could get stoned just by standing over the middle of it and inhale...AhooouuuuU! Mmmmm....

I love those macros...what kind of equipment are you using for those amazing macro shots? Looks pretty advanced! But my favorite is number one....Pic of the Month my friend! And that underleaf one on top-row, 6th one across....Mmmmm...:awesome::thumbup:

I wanna slap you I'm so jealous.....slap you with a Super High-Five!  :highfive:

Man, that Scrog method really makes a difference! Must be what pro-growers use huh?

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Yield?  Nah more like a couple Oz...  I really didn't do that great this run.  I should have either mothered one plant or given one away to flower somewhere else because putting the 5th plant in there just crowded the shit out of it eventually and it got choked out of light so badly that only a couple of the branches and the main top are producing anything.  Either way it's going to be top notch smoke!

For the pictures I was just using my buddies dissection microscope and I held my camera lens up to the eyepiece.  Simple and effective.  Thanks for the compliment, you picked out my 2 favorite pictures from the bunch (first pic and the underleaf shot), perfect dude!

The scrog really made a huge difference.  Without it, my plants tops would range from probably 24" high to 6" above soil level.  So if you think about it that is 18 inches, and a 150w HPS only has a 12" effective range, and the first 3-4 inches are lost because of the close proximity to the bulb.  That basically gives you 8 vertical inches of "good" light penetration.  Anything further away than 12" from the bulb will not produce, so now my entire canopy fits within 6-7 vertical inches, so I'm pretty sure everything will develop pretty well and evenly, compared to having 1 huge bud, and a handful of crappy underdeveloped popcorn.  The buds won't be huge, but they will all mature to about the same level if everything works out.  I expect the choked out plant to need extra time.


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Been busy as shit and just got myself caught up on what is going on here. Looks like  you have things handled nicely. :thumbup:




:vaped:  Gracias good sir.  You know it makes me smile to know you are watching over your grandkids.  Heh.  I'm getting anxious, they smell absolutely lovely!

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all fucking right man!

You got trichs growing on trichs there man fucking insane. I am going to have to step it up this next round haha.




Yeah well that's all Magash, I'm just babysitting :wink:  I think they are still pushing out lots and lots of resin, so the harvest pictures in 2 weeks should be pretty epic.  I'm going to smoke a fat ass joint in celebration.

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Awesome pics man. Awesome grow, all of it. :congrats:

I know it's not quite done yet, but I think you'll be able to handle it from here :lol:.

Damn I wish I could do that shit. Fuckin bullshit :nonono:




Thanks man, I'm glad you enjoyed it so far.  You should build a box of equal/greater size for a time when you can use it.  Get an early jump :shrug:

Yeah I'm giving them one last feeding of floranova and Cha ching now, then I'm going to start giving them a proper 2 week flush.  Basically just sitting back watching, because I'm NOT going to harvest these until I have a good feeling they are fully finished.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #388490 - 03/22/10 09:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I've been accumulating some things I'll be able to use for future grows. Fans, shelves for vegging, just stuff like that, but no lights or anything along those lines.  I know when I say "circumstances, blah, blah", y'all probably think I'm full of shit, but it's actually a pretty good, ethical, and morally upstanding reason. :shrug:


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    #388646 - 03/23/10 08:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It took me almost 2 years to collect everything I needed for a healthy grow. The hortilux and Xtrasun hood were the very last items on my list. Until then I used 15$ cfl's (16000lumens)from home depot for flowering and the kids did all right. Tell ya' what, they LOVE 1000 watts!


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    #388865 - 03/23/10 04:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah one thing that's actually kind of good about me not being able to do it right now is that I have plenty of time to really think it through instead of just ordering stuff and setting up and finding out afterward that maybe I should've done a few things differently, know what I mean?  Like every detail has been though over many times for a few different set ups, whether it be DWC, soil, or whatever I choose to do.  I'm thinking I might actually go with a SOG, not 100% yet, but leaning that way.


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    #390415 - 03/26/10 03:46 PM (14 years, 28 days ago)

Day 54 of Flower
I took some pics just for fun today.  The Sativa pheno is purpling up really fast.  Within the last 4-5 days it went from a slight hue to full fans being completely purple/red.  It's really hard to capture in my lighting but I think I found a couple that give you an idea that they are colored.  It's funny because generally that is a Bubba trait, but that plant seemed to received both sativa and indica bud structure.  Some branches are lanky, while others have a big blob shaped dense bud ball at the tops, all on the same plant, and the main tip is growing like a combo of them both, it's airy but the calyx are growing inside one another like a hashplant.  Very very interesting to see how the parents traits are passed to each plant individually.  I have a bunch of clones of each plant vegging so I'm going to have some Massive outdoor versions of these phenos this summer, and then I'll decide which one I want to keep in my strain list.  I already collected a few f2 seeds from premature test buds, and they are all tiger-striped and mature brown.  :grin:

I started flushing yesterday, after one last Cha-Ching feeding.  My place is definitely starting to smell like fresh dank.  It's NOT a low odor strain. :wink:  I cut the 2 SMALLEST tops off, because I am in need of smoke and I want more energy to go towards finishing off the main colas.  Each plant grow about 3-5 good sized colas, and 3-5 smaller colas that are about 1/2 the size of the primary buds.  I'm really happy about these plant performance, even the TroubleMaker ended up being fucking amazing, and has some of the biggest densest nugs, but it was the lankiest and weakest looking plant in veg.  I'm so fascinated with all the different strains.  I want to grow them all!  The TM smells musky compared to the ultra fruity smell from the BK x SS.  I wish you could all try it...

Sorry it's a lot of pictures, but it's better to have too many than too little.



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    #390418 - 03/26/10 03:49 PM (14 years, 28 days ago)

Oh they look gorgeous! And never no such thing as "too many photos", so there's no need to apologize for that. :wink:

I see you harvested some...nice. Can't wait to see in 10 days.....should be pretty frosty by then! :vaped:

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    #390523 - 03/26/10 07:20 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

You can never have to many photo's.

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    #390534 - 03/26/10 08:14 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Alrighty then I'll keep that in mind!

Oh by the way KaptKid, I have my first successful round of clones if you noticed in the veg box pictures.  Just cuttings in cups of soil, almost all of them survived, although they took forever and didn't root until I put them out of the box in the dark... weird.  The second round is just rooted and nice and mostly green, those are the ones in the trays.

Here's one of the first round to survive, the main tops died on them but they became FIM'd basically.  That is going to be one MASSIVE bush by next October :wink:



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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #390555 - 03/26/10 09:13 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Oh man, they're as happy as a dog in a bone factory.

I've enjoyed this grow from start to finish man, although it's not quite done yet, somethin tells me you'll be able to handle it from here on out.:lol:  I've learned a lot too from you, thanks for answering my questions.  I'll probably going back through it and checking up on some things in the future.  I look forward to your next one dude.

Oh yeah, about the tiger striped seeds, what does that mean?

I know the little white ones are no good, so I know what you mean by mature brown.


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    #390623 - 03/27/10 01:04 AM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Thanks FBD, it means a lot.  I even have to go back here to reference stuff all the time, dates, feedings, even pruning.  I believe that is the awesome benefit of keeping an accurate and detailed journal.  It allows you to see in front of you, well kept records of what works and what doesn't, allowing you to be a much more well-rounded and efficient grower.  :thumbup:

Well with the seeds, I'm not entirely sure of what it means, but generally the best bagseeds I've ever grown were the nice brown seeds with the tiger stripes, but when I asked magash he told me that it tends to be a trait of heavier indicas... :shrug:  I prefer the narcotic high so I always seem to see that as a good sign I guess.  It just shows me that they are mature, probably viable, and that my flowering cycle is nearing it's end.

I clipped my first "Bubba" pheno branch.  It was the smallest, and was in a very crowded area and looked nearly finished, and figured I would give it a nice 4-5 day dry before I sample it, because my previous tiny testers were still damp when sampled, and it still baked my brain.

One thing that has surprised me this grow so far though is that damn TroubleMaker (Hindu x Master Kush) plant.  It was nearly dead from an Iron deficiency in early veg and I saved it and kept it around just so I could finally see what that strain had to offer (poor germ rate on seeds and lots of males) and I have to say, it is AWESOME.  It kept up with the bubba skunks on trichome coverage, and even surpassed all the other plants in bud density and overall efficiency.  It will be finished in a week too, it was the fastest flowerer.  I'm so pleased with it!  It had long skinny lanky branches, that ended up solidifying and packing on big dense buds.  It might be the highest yielding plant!  I'm just loving this grow simply for the observations I've been able to make.  I really want to see the offspring of the seeds from my first cross, Bubba Pheno x Troublemaker...  I also have a backup of all these phenos in clone form, so I'm definitely going to grow out a massive outdoor TM plant :awesome:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #390750 - 03/27/10 01:26 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

:lol:

All your posts are so similar.  You say thanks for the help and how much it means to you, and then you go on for like 93 paragraphs about your plants.  It's fuckin hilarious.  I don't mind the info and details, I think it's great, it's just funny how you start with like a basic, simple reply and then go forever. :rofl:

Let us know how the sample you took was.

Oh yeah, I hope you die!



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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #390767 - 03/27/10 02:25 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Welcome to be being high late at night.  :lol:

There is no way I can pull together the focus or motivation to type like that right now.  I like to ramble, and be detailed.  I hope it doesn't annoy you, I just like to keep track of things in case I want to make any more crosses, I can really see which plants have what strong points I might want to keep around...

Hah 93 paragraphs.  That made me lol, ya man I can type as fast as I can talk so I tend to go on and on with ease.  :sad:

Edit:  Well I clipped off a one hitter that was dry enough and I'm pretty fuckin high right now, I just want to see what the colas are packin'...


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #390787 - 03/27/10 03:01 PM (14 years, 27 days ago)

Hell yeah dude, it's all good, I'm just messing with ya.  Being able to type fast is awesome, it's the same as talking :lol:

I've been getting into genetics and all that lately.  It's very interesting, kinda complicated too though, which makes it more interesting.  I hate not being able to do this right now man, you have no idea.  I'll let you know some details later on, I got some shit to do today, I'll get up with you later on man.  Take it easy.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #390944 - 03/27/10 10:18 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

A few more shots for the hell of it!



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    #390945 - 03/27/10 10:23 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Those nugs are fuckin sexy man.  :pm: a nigga a :bonghit: damn :macdre:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #390950 - 03/27/10 10:42 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Yeah they really matured quickly in the last week.  I anticipate the same type of growth thru next week.  Notice the foxtails forming on the 2nd to last picture.  I don't think the buds are going to get larger, but I DO think that they are going to swell and become quite solid and dense.  They just seem to have that type of structure.  Very interesting buds, but potent as shit.

As for the PM's, I don't see anything in my inbox :wink:

I really don't know how yields will be, but you would think that each cola HAS TO at least weigh 1-2 grams, don't you guys think?  There are about 20 that will probably produce 2 grams, and another ~15 that will be 1-2 grams.  That tells me that I'll probably be landing somewhere in between 55 and 75 grams, just in top buds alone, not to mention the additional 20 or so from the popcorn buds.  My overall goal for myself is 3 solid ounces from this run.  That will keep me smoking for a couple months.  :vaped:


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #390956 - 03/27/10 10:46 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

:lol: My outbox isn't working right now :rofl:

We should do a poll to see what your final yield will be.

I'm gonna say........106 grams.  A little over what you're shooting for, but I think you've done really good on this grow and there's one shot where it shows the buds underneath but it's just on one side.  It's fuckin thick as hell with a shitload of popcorn buds.

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    #390957 - 03/27/10 10:47 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

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A few more shots for the hell of it!



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    #390986 - 03/27/10 11:53 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

super dank man

i love this grow:dancer:

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    #390998 - 03/28/10 12:20 AM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Yeah, he did a damn good job on it.  I'm no expert  but when I see very dense undergrowth with buds all throughout, and nice big ones on top, something tells me that's good.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: Inverted]
    #391096 - 03/28/10 11:04 AM (14 years, 26 days ago)

Nice looking grow indeed man as always.:yesnod:

Lovin what I'm seeing in those strains can't wait until they are on the market.:burnone::getstoned:


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    #391123 - 03/28/10 12:33 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

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    #391776 - 03/28/10 09:19 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

Thanks man, you should come over and check out their super unique bud structure before I chop them.  It's Day 56 of flowering today, a FULL 8 weeks; so they ought to be done in 7-10 more days 63-65 days should be enough, but you NEVER know.  I'm going by the trichs for the first time in my growing career, thanks to your super awesome microscope.  Sorry I didn't come start our outdoor plots today, I bought a nice tennis racket and I was playing w/ my brother and his girlfriend, then I got cheeched at his house, played Maia in Scrabble, then stopped by Ash's on the way home.  It's supposed to be gorgeous this week, so we can definitely dig some nice holes and enjoy the weather.

Me and Lucid are doing a nice Co-op this summer.  Almost all of these,
\/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/  ....are vegging for 3-4 weeks then going outside.  I'm going for 10 footers again this year.  It's been ages since I grew monsters like that.


P.S.  I grow every summer, and took a break with only 1 small plant last year, but in either case  I usually don't even start my SEEDS til 4/20 or later, and I always end up with BIG plants, 4-6 feet on average.

So imagine what my grow will be like when I start with not only CLONES, but they were rooted over a week ago, which means I have a FULL MONTH jump on my normal germination date, and the clones are ALREADY GROWING, and I know the sex so I will transplant on correct times and will baby every one because I don't have to worry about putting effort into a plant and have it turn male on me, so I'm going to prepare PERFECT sites for all the clones, and quote me on it, I'm going to have monsters by Autumn... :evil2:

Can you tell I'm excited for outdoor season!?!?  I am addicted to the 1,081w equivalent, FULL spectrum, moving bulb.  It doesn't get any better until I have grow houses like Magash.  :hehehe:


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    #391788 - 03/28/10 09:26 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

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    #391791 - 03/28/10 09:28 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

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He's got it down I think.

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    #391795 - 03/28/10 09:30 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

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Just be careful outdoors man.



He's got it down I think.




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    #391799 - 03/28/10 09:35 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

I think he just grows in his backyard....but I'm not sure.

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    #391800 - 03/28/10 09:36 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

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Just be careful outdoors man.



He's got it down I think.




:hehehe:  Thanks Trip.  Yeah I do have outdoors down, that is my strongest point.  I'm relatively new to indoors.  I've grown many plants indoors under CFL's, but I never FULLY FLOWERED a plant through a cycle until last year.  Outdoors is the shit FBD, if you can't grow indoors right now, I guarantee you that you can grow outdoors... :wink:

Especially if you live in an even remotely rural area like I do, You can get away with massive plots and numbers of plants without a single damn person having any idea. 

Fields, Pastures, and Prairie Grassland FTW!!!

I wish I had my pictures of my outdoor grow journals from OverGrow.  I had some seriously gorgeous "Hubba Bubba" (C99 x BubbleBerry) 9-10 footers, and had pictures of me standing in front of the MJ Christmas Tree!!!  It was epic and will forever be stamped in my memory, because they were ripped off at 3 weeks into flower, and would have easily harvested a LB of super dank per plant.  I am using genetics of equal firepower for the first time since then (wayyyy back in Junior year of HS... :lol:)


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    #391802 - 03/28/10 09:38 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

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I think he just grows in his backyard....but I'm not sure.




Supporter account eh?  Nice.  I want one but am too poor!  At least I somehow have unltd up space!  woot.

Nah I do grow a little bush or two around the property just for fun and something to take care of, but the real Co-op is out in the Cunt Tree a little more, only 10 mins from my casa.


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    #391805 - 03/28/10 09:39 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

I don't know exactly where he does it at, don't really care to.  And I'm sure he knows it, but it never hurts to say it. :wtf:

Yeah I live in the suburbs Inverted, I'm thinking about doing something outdoors this year, but where I'm thinking of doing it is kinda sketchy, gotta make a decision soon though.  Even if it's just a few, I'll have something outdoors this year though.  I wanna have my own soil though, so I wanna put some pots or buckets out.  They like to fly around in choppers around here though, so I gotta pick a good spot.


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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #391814 - 03/28/10 09:43 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

You don't have to worry about those choppers unless you are a total moron. 

A.  DO NOT ever plant in rows.  Plant them like you are tripping or blindfolded, some clustered, some random singles.  Put all your eggs in one basket and you'll lose it all.  Put one here, one there, a few there, 2 over there, and I promise you that almost none will get seen by ANYONE.

You need to worry about choppers if you A.  Grow in the open on your own property, and B.  You grow many thousands of plants as if you were growing corn or some other crop.  And C.  If you grow absolute monster plants, and quite a few of them in the same area, and never use a distinct trail near the plots.  Take multiple routes and always switch off as to not deaden a path of vegetation to your plot.  It's human and animal nature to just follow a path for the sake of seeing what it leads to...


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    #391817 - 03/28/10 09:45 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

LOL I didnt buy it someone else did. Its only for a month though.

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    #391820 - 03/28/10 09:47 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

Yeah, I've read all the tips on how to do it and all that.  Multiple routes to and from, no rows (the no rows is kinda common sense though).  Duct tape on the shoes is something I would probably use too.

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    #391936 - 03/28/10 11:00 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

Then the best thing for you is to start some little seedlings in like a hidden box in your room, just to give them a head start, even 5-6 little seedlings, get them up to 4-6 inches tall, doesn't matter if they stretch some, then just get them outside.  New soil is not necessary, depending on your location and conditions, but if you want the best yield you should AT LEAST amend the soil with like 50% of your own soil.  I've done a test with plants right in the ground and plants with prepared and replaced soil in big holes in the ground and with the soil around here being very dark and pretty nutritious, the plants without amendments or even turning the soil grew JUST FINE, and that's in fact how I'm growing the majority of the #'s of plants this year, all the focus and real prepping is for the best of the genetics, all the rest will be my personal seedstock just to get a massive # of plants.  I don't want to be disappointed this fall :wink:


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    #396772 - 04/05/10 09:48 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Hey Inverted - looking good!  Got some frosty gals there!

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    #396778 - 04/05/10 09:54 PM (14 years, 17 days ago)

Damn, those budz look Hot!

But they also look kinda weird: whats' those "cauliflower" leaf-bud things on Last 2 photos of first row, and photo 1, row 2? Never seen those before...

I'm sure its normal, but damn I wanna see those in real life. I bet they look so Crystally.....Mmmm. So jealous right now....

Damn nice lookin' Budz! :happyweed:
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Re: Bubba Kush x Super Skunk, Hindu x Master Kush - Scrog [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #397211 - 04/06/10 06:57 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Day 65 of Flowering

Thank you!  I've been pretty busy lately so things have just been growing themselves :wink:  I harvested a few of the underdeveloped branches and a few that were mature and ready before the others.

TrueHerbal- Those "cauliflower" looking things are called "Foxtails" and are a characteristic of some strains during late flower.  That's why I love growing all sorts of different genetics, because of things like that.  The bud structure is just unique on some of these plants and one top even sorta mutated and stretched all weird, but whatever the rest of the plant is gorgeous...

I'm almost done flushing and they taste amazing, very smooth, no harshness or sense of chems at all.  They should be coming down in 3-5 days.  I can't wait, I'm going to make some dank Bubble... I also made some bubble hash with a buddy yesterday.  It's from sativa trim but I love it I can smoke it all day long, it bubbles oh-so-nicely!  No hard crash with the Sativa strain. :drooling: 

I should have taken a picture of it bubbling...

Here we go, last picture update before the final harvest.



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    #397216 - 04/06/10 07:12 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Hell yea man!!  I haven't posted in a minute, but have been checking up on your grow.  Looking really good.  That hash looks really good.  I still have all the trim from my last grow I need to use.

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    #397253 - 04/06/10 07:55 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Whoa, where can I get a bonsai tree like that? Those buds look crystally.  :drooling:


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    #397255 - 04/06/10 08:01 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

pretty sure that ones fake :frown: the buds however :awepixel:


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    #397276 - 04/06/10 08:34 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Ill take some of the hash from the ball on the right to go, please.

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