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Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???!
    #332776 - 12/17/09 12:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How could someone use that much just in lighting? Shouldn't they be really fucking worried?

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: pftek]
    #332778 - 12/17/09 12:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

its totally possible, but if its illegal then yes they probably are worried, unless they are patients or live somewhere where its legal.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #332800 - 12/17/09 01:17 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i would imagine that with 9k lights you would easily exceed the number of plants allowed under any state MMJ law.  but idk for sure.  There are some commercial grow logs over at ICmag.  You can read the commentary on those for some additional info.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #332810 - 12/17/09 01:30 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

yeah commercial grows usually are high wattage operations.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #332813 - 12/17/09 01:34 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

In states like Oregon, you can become a caregiver for however many people you want.  So you could easily get up to 9000 watts legally.  It's not as rare as you might think.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #332814 - 12/17/09 01:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

So there's no limit?  You could sow a field full of cannabis and supply like a thousand people?  That's how all the laws should be.  Thanks for correcting me.  I try not to speak of what i don't know but sometimes I incorrectly substitute logic from related understanding.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #332931 - 12/17/09 05:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Oh I wasn't saying that you were wrong.  Some states don't allow that type of thing.  And until recently the Feds were going after the large co-ops in California that were ops as large as what what your thinking of.  That hopefully will stop soon from what the new administration is saying, I'll believe it when I see it though.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #332984 - 12/17/09 07:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

so let's say someone were to grow 9000 watts of plants in an illegal state.

how sure are we the POLICE won't find out?

(this is just a hypothetical)

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: pftek]
    #332985 - 12/17/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

37%

:shrug:  i dunno man.  Here's my plan though.....

spend some time learning about solar power.  If one does it right you can become self sufficient with the power.  In fact, you can create enough of your own solar power to run the meters backward and power company pays you for generating extra electricity for them.  we should all be doing this, but the initial cost of all of it is a bit expensive, but worth it in the long run, esp. if you're running a commercial grow op (or a breeding lab or something).  There are quite a few people who run the solars out here.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #333014 - 12/17/09 09:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

or get a diesel generator and modify it to run off vegetable fuel...now we're talking. Solar panels are waaaaay too expensive for most.

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: shakalaka]
    #333023 - 12/17/09 10:07 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

i could go either way.

the problem with solar panels is - do we really get enough sunlight in the northeast to power these suckers? also, wouldn't it be a DEAD give away to everyone else? WTF is this guy running solar power for?

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: pftek]
    #333024 - 12/17/09 10:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

just read this article:

"For $15,000 installed, a 3.5 kilowatt system could generate 5,000 kwh of electricity a year, about a third of most homes' needs."

lol. 5,000 kwh? that's like 5-1,000 ballasts for an hour - no?

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: pftek]
    #333027 - 12/17/09 10:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

lol, uh, that's not what it can do total in a year,  That's what it can put out per hour at peak performance.  And i know a lot of people with solar panels that don't grow.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #333041 - 12/17/09 10:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

ya solar panels aren;t a dead giveaway at all! the generator would be more of one if anyone saw it. It would take a lot of panels to have a good number of lights though...thats the problem.

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: shakalaka]
    #333051 - 12/17/09 10:45 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

But your only looking to help reduce the amount of power your drawing from the power company.  Not necessarily power your entire grow. 

I would do it if I owned my own house.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: shakalaka]
    #333058 - 12/17/09 10:51 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

U could run 80 600watt bulbs off a 50kw generator.
from what i remember last...a good deal on solar power is about $3 a watt...it might have changed now...but not by much i assume.
thats 30,000$ for a 10kw setup...then u need to buy batteries and all sort of other shit. For a long term setup...it would be a good idea. for short term...diesel gen.

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: shakalaka]
    #333108 - 12/18/09 02:41 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Depending on where you live cause you can't do it in down town LA but windmills are the way to go for generating power at home.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Magash]
    #333109 - 12/18/09 03:19 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Depending on where you live cause you can't do it in down town LA but windmills are the way to go for generating power at home.






I have a friend living out in the country that has both solar panels on his roof and a wind mill on the top of a hill that's outside of their house.  Pretty spiffy setup.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #333138 - 12/18/09 09:04 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I'm doing the same thing along with just about everybody around me.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: shakalaka]
    #333188 - 12/18/09 12:36 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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U could run 80 600watt bulbs off a 50kw generator.
from what i remember last...a good deal on solar power is about $3 a watt...it might have changed now...but not by much i assume.
thats 30,000$ for a 10kw setup...then u need to buy batteries and all sort of other shit. For a long term setup...it would be a good idea. for short term...diesel gen.




diesel generators - i heard that they aren't meant for continuous use. like you would have to change the oil every 3 days.

anyone on here convert to a bio diesel and just use vegetable oil?

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: pftek]
    #333200 - 12/18/09 01:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

My friend did in his old school diesel benz...

Works like a charm.  There is a massive potential market for this stuff.  Anyone wanna start a vegetable oil company as a front and we'll have fields of cannabis as our main business venture!?!?!

:lol:  I wish


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Inverted]
    #333222 - 12/18/09 01:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

bio diesel is not straight vegetable oil. I have made that conversion on several vehicles.

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: shakalaka]
    #333439 - 12/18/09 10:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I was joking if you were talking to me...


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: pftek]
    #334312 - 12/21/09 01:47 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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lol. 5,000 kwh? that's like 5-1,000 ballasts for an hour - no?




No, that would be 5,000 1000W ballasts for an hour.  kWh is 1000W for an hour.  Not to be a dick, didn't want you thinking somebody paid $15,000 for 5kWh worth of energy.  :shocked:

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: dutc2006]
    #334590 - 12/21/09 04:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

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lol. 5,000 kwh? that's like 5-1,000 ballasts for an hour - no?




No, that would be 5,000 1000W ballasts for an hour.  kWh is 1000W for an hour.  Not to be a dick, didn't want you thinking somebody paid $15,000 for 5kWh worth of energy.  :shocked:



how is 5-1000w ballasts 5000 1000w lights for an hr?
It is 5000w per hr.

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: shakalaka]
    #334593 - 12/21/09 04:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

Thank you I didn't want to say anything!

hahaha

Yeah, it's 5kw, thats 5,000w per hour  =  (5)x1,000w ballasts running for 1 hour.  Very simple guys come on...


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Inverted]
    #334919 - 12/22/09 02:59 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Wait, are you guys trying to say I am wrong?  Pay attention class...

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just read this article:

"For $15,000 installed, a 3.5 kilowatt system could generate 5,000 kwh of electricity a year, about a third of most homes' needs."

lol. 5,000 kwh? that's like 5-1,000 ballasts for an hour - no?




This is wrong.  5,000 kWh does not equal five 1000W ballasts for an hour.  5,000 kWh is 5,000,000 W for an hour, or 5,000 1,000W ballasts for an hour. 

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Very simple guys come on...




I thought so too, maybe the second time around you will get it.

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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: dutc2006]
    #334979 - 12/22/09 08:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

a kilowatt is 1000watts, and 1000watts running for 1 hour would be considered 1 Kilowatt Hour of electricity...


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #334993 - 12/22/09 08:55 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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a kilowatt is 1000watts, and 1000watts running for 1 hour would be considered 1 Kilowatt Hour of electricity...




I'm retarded


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Inverted]
    #335040 - 12/22/09 11:52 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

LMFAO



Inverted are you a total moron?  Did you just totally miss the quote by pftek that I was responding to in the first place?  I've quoted it every time to emphasize what I was explaining.  He was asking if 5,000 kWh was the same as five 1000W ballasts running for an hour.

IT IS NOT. 

5,000 kWh IS 5,000,000W for an hour or 5,000 X 1,000W for an hour.  How many different ways can I break this down for you?    I was just trying to explain to him that his math was incorrect.  I have a fully grasp the metric system, you sir need to do more research if you think five 1,000W ballasts running for an hour is a third of most homes energy needs for a year, as was mentioned in his quote. 


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: dutc2006]
    #335047 - 12/22/09 12:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't even read anything really and i'm really too high to research it or care... Maybe I misread something chill out fuck.

lol

Awww I don't even remember posting that so I obviously was too high to do math.  I donno, I don't care.

If you are right then thank you for correcting.

I know nothing about electricity.


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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: Inverted]
    #335163 - 12/22/09 04:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:
It's cool, I'm sure in your 3000+ posts you've at times had to defend yourself from people you thought were hellbent on disagreeing with you. 
I just needed to hit the bowl and chill anyways.
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Re: Saw a grow with OVER 9000 watts just in lighting - How, huh, what???! [Re: dutc2006]
    #335227 - 12/22/09 05:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:peace:


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