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OfflineSlave of Cthulhu
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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Shr0000ooooms]
    #323517 - 11/30/09 10:08 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, pot could actually help you with this. Don't smoke A LOT but def here and there to mellow you out and take your mind off things. Fuck everything else, you don't need that shit. Pot is here to help you though, as are we my friend.


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Slave of Cthulhu]
    #323521 - 11/30/09 10:10 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Fuck everything else, you don't need that shit. Pot is here to help you though, as are we my friend.




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FurrowedBrow said:

They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: MFDoom666]
    #323551 - 11/30/09 12:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

and psychedelics of course:bigjoint:


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #323563 - 11/30/09 12:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I would give up everything but pot and psychedelics as said before.


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: THEBats]
    #323638 - 11/30/09 02:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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SmOakland said:
Withdrawing  from that much opiates will be hard.




That's 3x my old usage and I had trouble quitting JUST THAT...

You gotta take this one step at a time.  I promise you that if you try to get rid of everything at once, your body is going to punish the fuck out of you and you WILL fail.

Not trying to be negative but you gotta get off the opiates first, then the benzos, but always smoke weed... You WILL need it.

It sounds like a great idea everytime but then you wake up the next morning feeling terrible and the first thing you want is more opiates...

Good luck sir.


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find a hobby, preferably something constructive.




I did, it is the only thing that helped to get my mind off of opiates.


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323642 - 11/30/09 02:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Inverted said:
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SmOakland said:
Withdrawing  from that much opiates will be hard.




That's 3x my old usage and I had trouble quitting JUST THAT...

You gotta take this one step at a time.  I promise you that if you try to get rid of everything at once, your body is going to punish the fuck out of you and you WILL fail.

Not trying to be negative but you gotta get off the opiates first, then the benzos, but always smoke weed... You WILL need it.







It sounds like a great idea everytime but then you wake up the next morning feeling terrible and the first thing you want is more opiates...

Good luck sir.


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find a hobby, preferably something constructive.




I did, it is the only thing that helped to get my mind off of opiates.





this is very true man, to be honest the first thing i thought about upon rising was opiates, today has been hard and i feel very sick i only ate about 5 spoon fulls of some mac n cheese i cooked before i hurled it and gave up on eating, been very angry to , i yelled at my boss b/c he wouldnt let me come get my paycheck if i took the day off witch is just totall bull shit, but anyways i got a lil over 6g's of some dank i might puff down .5 or so after dark so i can get my grub on and chrash out but idk yet. :shrug:

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: TheGateWayDrug420]
    #323652 - 11/30/09 03:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

that's the best time to blaze. Wake N Bake to get rid of the stomach issues (I know you know what i'm talking about) and then 2 hours before bed so you can eat and crash out.  I'd probably smoke .5 in the AM and .5 before bed.  You will probably need some benzo's to make the entire process easier.  But don't take much, just enough so that you can BARE the withdrawals.  If you need any more advice just :pm: me and i've got a lot of helpful advice to get through that shitty ass few days.  It gets better quickly though.


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323669 - 11/30/09 03:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Especially when you have some opiates handy.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: THEBats]
    #323675 - 11/30/09 03:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well suboxone is different.  If I was taking oxycodone daily it would be one thing, but i'm on such a low does of sub that I don't necessarily need it, but it makes me forget heroin even exists.  If you don't agree with it fuck off, because the medical community doesn't consider it an opiate.


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323680 - 11/30/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Like I said, I told him to take benzo's, not opiates.

If I had benzos to get through the W/D's I would have, but I didn't and I don't feel like sitting in the hospital for 3-5 days with no insurance.

It's so funny how uneducated the growery is on the subject of opiates. :lol:


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323685 - 11/30/09 03:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

How do you not consider suboxone an opiate?  Either way I was just busting your balls lol, glad you're off the H.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: THEBats]
    #323707 - 11/30/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks man, I just wish people would realize that the Heroin is an addiction in it's own, separate of the opiate addiction.  Half of my days were spent acquiring and doing heroin, so a complete lifestyle change was necessary.  Taking suboxone allows me to have a "normal" life again, while keeping my mind off of heroin and it's terrible lifestyle. 

I consider not smoking Heroin every day to be a success.  Yeah I have a partial opioid helping me out but I would still be doing heroin if I didn't go on suboxone... I'd recommend it to anyone with a heavy opiate/heroin addiction.  I'm just sour on this subject i'm sorry.


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323708 - 11/30/09 03:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well yeah, there's usually two aspects of an addiction.  There's the actual drug dependence then there's the habituation of the act of taking the substance.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: THEBats]
    #323711 - 11/30/09 03:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Omg never ever ever eat mac n cheese while trying to quit an addiction. You'll throw your ass up, I learned that the hard way. It was only off cigarettes too :eek:


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323712 - 11/30/09 03:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

But like you said, getting a hobby helped just as much as the Sub!

I started a grow, which was a great decision.

Today is 30 days off of Heroin... Yeah not ALL opiates but I consider that a victory for me.  I'll be off of the sub within another 30 days, but I won't get off of them til' im fully ready or I could relapse.  I'll do anything NOT to relapse, and if I need a tiny dose of buprenorphine to take cravings away I will.  Most H addicts stay on Suboxone for years, no way I'll do that.  I can't afford it!

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: THEBats]
    #323714 - 11/30/09 03:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Well yeah, there's usually two aspects of an addiction.  There's the actual drug dependence then there's the habituation of the act of taking the substance.




The problem is, from the time I would wake up, til' about 8-12 hours later, I would be driving, meeting mexicans, doing tar, meeting them again, doing more, then going to bed.  It's like the drug was my whole life.

Now that i'm staying home every day and just smoking weed and taking suboxone I feel like a different person, and act like a different one too.

I've had more trouble "filtering" what I say, and that has caused me to get a lot of shit around this forum.  Seriously how can people hate me when I haven't even met any of them?  Makes me really sad. :sad:


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323718 - 11/30/09 04:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:shrug:  I don't hate anyone here.  Except banez.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: THEBats]
    #323721 - 11/30/09 04:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:

Thats funny he's the ONLY person besides well obviously Jewitagain that I dislike...

Sounds like a pretty common synopsis!


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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: Inverted]
    #323734 - 11/30/09 04:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i've decided that jewitagain and banez aren't so bad.

go on, hate me if you must.


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FurrowedBrow said:

They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

Harry_Ba11sach said:

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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Re: i am giving up ALL substances. [Re: MFDoom666]
    #323741 - 11/30/09 04:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, I don't HATE anyone here.

I'm just saying those are the only 2 people who have really gotten on my nerves before.  Trip did hardcore but we were good friends before and patched it up quickly.

I just don't like basketball basically, and Banez loves it, and we argued over sports... lol so I don't hate him.  He just gets shit on a lot.  Like I do recently.

Jewitagain is okay... but he contradicts himself all the time.  "I fucking HATE cali and its fucking social bullshit scene!"

1 month later -  "I'm so glad I am back home, fuck that place, cali is the SHIIIIT!!!"


I might not have quoted exactly but seriously that's how it went... Once again, no HATE, just don't agree with him very often, but sometimes we do.


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