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12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned!
    #308928 - 11/03/09 09:02 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yes!

So motivation levels have been high lately and I've got the grow bug bad (low smoke) and have A LOT of seeds from great genetics.

So first, I'm using a 175w MH, and (4) 30+W CFL's.  I can't get better lighting until I get a job again.

I built a 20" x 20" x 30" Grow box, and painted/sealed the interior with moisture resistant paint to reflect as much % of light as possible.  Works nearly as well as Mylar anyways.

I'm growing in soil.  Mostly sphagnum peat moss, perlite, and some organic compost all mixed nicely.

Starting seedlings in Paper towels for 2 days, then move to the 16oz Keg Cups.  I plan to veg. them for 2-3 weeks max and then switch them over to flowering.  A transplant to 1 gal. containers will also be in order at that point.  Not looking for a lot here, maybe 3-4 Oz's to last me until my *next grow.  I can pull that off.

I germinated 3 Purple Haze, and 2 Crystal seedlings right off the bat to test the viability of the seeds.  GREAT!  Now I added 5 GDP and they will be in the box in the next couple days.

After those were transferred to the soil medium, I proceeded to germinate 10 more Crystal.  That's the highest yielding strain i've grown yet.  Also my favorite taste and smell.

Those are now far too ready for the soil after only 2 days in germination, with over half already growing cotyleydons inside the baggy.

:lol:  That's no problem, actually it's what I want to keep them as short as possible because I can stick them in right up to the first set of leaves flush with the soil level.

Here's some pics for now, although I know this grow won't be exciting to many people until the end, as with most.

This is what I did a few months ago w/ just simple bagseed so let's see what I can really do with some great strains!



Okay so here's what i've got so far.  Trust me there will be plenty more where that came from. :yesnod:



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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #309000 - 11/03/09 11:10 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

woo hoo! looking good so far!

and nice bagseed plant :thumbup:  I'm also very excited to see what you can do with some good genetics.  I'll be following this thread.


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #309005 - 11/03/09 11:28 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

you and i both man.


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They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: MFDoom666]
    #309056 - 11/03/09 12:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

:awesome:


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: mhbound]
    #309139 - 11/03/09 01:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #309143 - 11/03/09 01:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Looking forward to seeing the Crystal.  I have a pack of them I haven't tried yet.  Good luck with the grow.

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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: dsotm]
    #309173 - 11/03/09 02:25 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Looking forward to seeing the Crystal.  I have a pack of them I haven't tried yet.  Good luck with the grow.




They are completely AWESOME.

We got HUGE cola's and great fucking potency from this strain.

It's my favorite thus far because of it's ease of grow, and the amount of potent buds it produces, and the sheer size of them in contrast to the size of the plant itself.

You have no idea how excited I am.  I feel like it's my first grow all over again.  Haha wow that was a long time ago and a major FAIL.  I've come a long ways.  :lol:


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #309179 - 11/03/09 02:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome I'll def follow this thread. I wanna see the Crystal. Completely new to me. Have Fun!!


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #309249 - 11/03/09 05:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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They are completely AWESOME.

We got HUGE cola's and great fucking potency from this strain.

It's my favorite thus far because of it's ease of grow, and the amount of potent buds it produces, and the sheer size of them in contrast to the size of the plant itself.





I may give crystal a try for my first :vaped:


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #309303 - 11/03/09 06:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Crystal sounds like a great name for a strain.  Luv me some crystals.  let's see you work your magic Inverted!


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #309320 - 11/03/09 06:59 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Right on dude... I'm rootin' for your little ladies!

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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: DudeTron]
    #309330 - 11/03/09 07:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Crystal is a bad choice for first grow IMO


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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #309335 - 11/03/09 07:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Dude that bagseed looks AMAZING!!! Can't wait to see how thess babies turn out. :tongue2:

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Re: 10+ Crystal, 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's I Have Returned! [Re: harri]
    #309573 - 11/04/09 12:06 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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They are completely AWESOME.

We got HUGE cola's and great fucking potency from this strain.

It's my favorite thus far because of it's ease of grow, and the amount of potent buds it produces, and the sheer size of them in contrast to the size of the plant itself.





I may give crystal a try for my first :vaped:




It is recommended for novice growers, NOT what Mhbound said...

I don't know where you got your information but Crystal is a very stable, easy to grow strain man...

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Crystal sounds like a great name for a strain.  Luv me some crystals.  let's see you work your magic Inverted!




Not too much mention about this strain but it is a very awesome classic hybrid.

The combination of WW x NL is perfect for my climate.

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Dude that bagseed looks AMAZING!!! Can't wait to see how thess babies turn out. :tongue2:




You and me both dude, I'm having good vibes about this one...


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #309619 - 11/04/09 03:14 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

The Grand Total

I now have 12 little Crystal's, and 3 Haze!

I only chose to germ. 3 Haze mostly because it's Sativa Dom. and I won't have the space for quantity of these.

The Crystal are the money makers.  Large dense trich. covered buds, on a medium size plant.  That's what i'm looking for as I'm doing a mini SOG of sorts.  I'm mainly starting this many just to be sure I'll get at least 5-6 females.  I plan to flower them once they have reached 6" and grow mostly one big bud per plant, plus popcorn nuggets of course.

PICS!  DAY 3



Now is the easy part, time to sit back and relax and watch the show!

:happyweed:  :popcorn:  :yesnod:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #309721 - 11/04/09 11:40 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

looks like the birth of sticky goodness.

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They should teach african engineering at the college level.  mcgyver 101

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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: MFDoom666]
    #309877 - 11/04/09 05:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

How much do you expect to yield from that inverted?


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #309885 - 11/04/09 05:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Sweet lamp shade man :thumbup:


Everything is looking great so far!  I hope you get a really nice female haze, or two, or three :vaped:

I've never followed a grow journal from beginning to end so I'm about as excited as you are!!


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: mhbound]
    #309904 - 11/04/09 06:38 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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How much do you expect to yield from that inverted?




I'm expecting about 3 oz's, but am TRYING to get about 4.  I might ScrOG but not sure if it's necessary.  I'm only going to let each one get 6-8" before I flower, Power in numbers...

It all depends on the number of females I get :thumbup:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #309909 - 11/04/09 06:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Sweet lamp shade man :thumbup:


Everything is looking great so far!  I hope you get a really nice female haze, or two, or three :vaped:

I've never followed a grow journal from beginning to end so I'm about as excited as you are!!




Well get ready, it will take 3 months but trust me, it will start to go by fast.

I'm too excited.  I shouldn't look at them everyday but i'm guilty...


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #310274 - 11/05/09 11:15 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You can probably get 4 with it with those Crystal


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: mhbound]
    #310285 - 11/05/09 11:30 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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You can probably get 4 with it with those Crystal




:thumbup:

Thanks for your confidence!  You need to get a journal going!

I'd be so stoked if I got 4, then I would be set until the next harvest and then it's outdoor season!


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #310296 - 11/05/09 12:21 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I will lamps and everything are being setup, I just got moved in to my apartment...Well not done yet but I'm just taking my sweet ass time after living with my parents to help them move these past 6 months or so.

But you'll see if VERY soon :grin:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: mhbound]
    #310477 - 11/05/09 06:15 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

be careful in that apt.  i'm sure you will though.  Good luck to both of you!


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #310873 - 11/06/09 12:01 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks so much! 

I think I'm going to buy more CFL's in the next few days and just kinda replace the MH.  Only the plants in the middle get the best light and with the CFL's I can move them around as needed.  I'm going to get to work on this immediately and am gonna try to get about 200 Watts of Warm for this grow.  Will expand/buy HPS when the time comes... Not necessary for my personal stash.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #310970 - 11/06/09 08:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

A bunch of good cfls isn't a bad idea and you would probably do better..or you could just add a fiew cfls down in the canopy.

Thanks furrowed, I will :thumbup:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: mhbound]
    #312081 - 11/07/09 10:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Alright well I've got 3, 30w CFL's in there now, but that's only temporary for a few days just to keep them alive while I buy more bulbs and sockets.  Just gotta get some money in the next couple days.

Anyways here's how they're doing.  Not growing very fast but that's because I just got too lazy one night and only had 1 flouro on for 30 or so hours, really lagged them down.  3 lights should help now.

I think they are only like 5 or 6 days old for the first group and 3 days old for the 2nd group.  Looking healthy at least.  :thumbup:



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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #312084 - 11/07/09 10:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #312099 - 11/07/09 10:57 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

:vaped: Look at those beautiful babies! :heart:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #312103 - 11/07/09 11:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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:vaped: Look at those beautiful babies! :heart:




Thank you!  Hopefully not for long!  Just wait another week and they'll be 4x the size!


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #312106 - 11/07/09 11:10 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

lookin good my man!  Progress at this point is a real pain.  You just want those roots to get real healthy to help support the future foliage growth.  :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #312116 - 11/07/09 11:45 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

looks great so far:thumbup:
im on the shroomery alot but ill defiantly
stop over and keep and eye on this
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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: JeromeBaker]
    #313066 - 11/09/09 11:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Looking sweeeet Inverted. After watching your last grow log, I can't wait to see these babies in potm! :ganja:
My next batch wil be Burmese Kush(B.Kush+OG.Kush)Fems! Going indoors for these kids. Got some Purple Widow for the outdoors next grow season, supposed to grow around 10'EASY! I can't wait for those.}=)~:tongue2:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: jwes420]
    #313322 - 11/09/09 08:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hell yes dude!  :thumbup:  That sounds like a GREAT combo of strains.

I've heard and seen great things about the Burmese Kush!

This will be my first 100% indoor grow so I'm definitely looking forward to what type of results i'm able to achieve with this setup.

I really like my growbox, it's pretty small and can be moved at the drop of a hat, yet there is still enough room inside to grow maybe (9) 24" plants!  I could probably get 4-5 Oz's if I REALLY work at it.

Dude I feel for you on the rippers, as I've had my 2 largest and dankest plants stolen from me and Lucid 3 weeks into flowering and they were a strain called Hubba Bubba (BubbleBerry x C99) It was the best strain I've ever grown and I never even got to see the fuckers finish.  Lucid's neighbors found them and stole them prematurely and like stupid fucks bragged about it and we just found out this year (6 years later).  We would have harvested over 3lbs. of the dankest bud I've ever grown, but instead were left with 3 big ass holes in the ground!  :facepalm:

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #313480 - 11/10/09 01:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: helmet]
    #314051 - 11/11/09 11:06 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude I feel for you on the rippers,




The two suspects, awkwardly enough, got jumped over an hp. Resulting in 9,000$ damage to their car, and a large number of stitches. Fuck, I didn't even have to do ANYTHING! Isn't Karma just a bitch!

:ranchydance:

I'm fine with being ripped. It sucks of course, but hey, EVERYONE makes a donation/sacrifice to the Green Goddess at one time or another.

I love the grow box you've set up. Quick, easy, and holds a great reward.:ganja: Good Luck!


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: jwes420]
    #314177 - 11/11/09 01:37 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Dude I feel for you on the rippers,




The two suspects, awkwardly enough, got jumped over an hp. Resulting in 9,000$ damage to their car, and a large number of stitches. Fuck, I didn't even have to do ANYTHING! Isn't Karma just a bitch!

:ranchydance:

I'm fine with being ripped. It sucks of course, but hey, EVERYONE makes a donation/sacrifice to the Green Goddess at one time or another.

I love the grow box you've set up. Quick, easy, and holds a great reward.:ganja: Good Luck!




I'm a major believer in Karma.

They got what was coming.

Thanks man I thought the same thing, why do I need a fancy ass box/tent if this setup works just fine for me?

They are growing nicely and I will update w/ pictures in a couple days.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #314381 - 11/11/09 08:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I took 5 of my GDP seeds (150+) and germinated them.  I am going to throw them in there too since the grow isn't too far ahead.  I figure it's just in time.

I'm going to take the 3 or 4 slowest growing crystal's and switch them out with the new Granddaddy Purple seedlings! 

:awesome:  I can't wait!  3 Dank fucking strains in one grow, which is a first for me!  I'm so used to bagseed, these things all perform so uniformly! :yesnod:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #314425 - 11/11/09 08:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I guess I can't take it and will give you a picture of the progress. 

I promise I'll try to keep a week between picture updates from now on... :yesnod:



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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #314462 - 11/11/09 11:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Ok well I was a busy boy tonight.  I built the framework to hold up my CFL's.

Looks and works perfect if you ask me.  Simple yet effective!  :thumbup:

I'm looking to add 2 more soon, then 2 more during flowering for a total of around 220 watts.  I've flowered w/ less and had decent results...



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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #315037 - 11/13/09 04:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

So how are you tucking them in at night?  Just covering the whole thing with a blanket or something after lights out?

Sorry if you already explained your ventage, just curious...

They look badass though bro!

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: DudeTron]
    #315046 - 11/13/09 06:24 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Oh sorry about that guys, yeah I suppose I never did explain that.

As the financial situation I'm in right now is glum, I can't afford any new equipment for this grow.  I'm an indoor/outdoor grower and this is my first 100% indoor, and I'm using all materials found around the house/garage.

I do NOT have an exhaust fan but I do have a large fan blowing through a large slot area in my box's lid (not pictured) moving enough air around inside to shake the leaves a little to strengthen the stems at young age.

They are in the basement on a 24/0 light regimen so there are no "lights out" yet... There is no bedtime for these hard working ladies!  They are growing so much that each day when I check on em' I say to myself "OMG what happened in here!?"

It's plenty warm in there during the winter and temps will NEVER be an issue w/ this grow...  I feel lucky being able to say that.  Where's that HPS when you need it most!?


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #317424 - 11/17/09 04:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

2 weeks update!

Smaller plants are 10 days.

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    #317469 - 11/17/09 05:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

HOLY COW!!!!

They're so big now!!  Have I really been gone that long?

wow. they look wonderful man!  looks like they have a very nice loving father, obviously. 


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #317573 - 11/17/09 07:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Lookin sharp!  They sure are growing fast now!  :thumbup::thumbup:


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    #317629 - 11/17/09 09:55 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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HOLY COW!!!!

They're so big now!!  Have I really been gone that long?

wow. they look wonderful man!  looks like they have a very nice loving father, obviously. 


mmmmmmmm:drooling:




You haven't been gone that long bro!  The large are 14 days old and the small are 10 so it hasn't been long at all.  This is the growth rate I wanted when I switched to good strains!  My bagseed would be this developed after 18 or so days, not 14!  I'm loving it.

At this rate, they will be ready to flower in one week.  That makes 3 weeks of veg time, 9 weeks of flower.  A 3 month grow cycle is what i'm shooting for, because 3-4 oz's (what i'm expecting per cycle) is enough to keep me and my fiance stoned until the next harvest rolls around.

I wish I had a separate vegetation chamber, because then I could have a staggered harvest time/perpetual system and then could be pulling maybe 2 oz's every month out of that box.  That would be nice.  :awesome:


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Lookin sharp!  They sure are growing fast now!  :thumbup::thumbup:




Thank you sir!  Yup!  It's time to kick off the training wheels and let these bitches roll!  Now that they (quickly I might add) have enough solar panels to really suck up the light, they will start to grow exponentially, i'm starting to get excited.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #318887 - 11/19/09 09:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Okay so tonight I went to Wal-Mart and they actually had a pretty decent lighting selection, although they only had MV ballasts and NO MH or HPS... Kinda disappointing.

Anyways while I was there I found some nice 42w CFL's in the 2700k spectrum :awesome:

So I picked up 2, which brings the total to 42+42+30+30+30+30=200+watts of warm color light, so I should be OK until my HPS arrives in time for the majority of the flowering cycle.

Here's a little sneak peak at how they are doing... Growing more and more every day!



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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #318919 - 11/19/09 10:05 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Looking good man.:thumbup::thumbup:

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #318921 - 11/19/09 10:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

nice avatar inverted, you put a leaf on your lampshade, and then inverted the color info? heh either way, looks cool. and the babies are looking quite nice

3-4oz last you and someone else 3-4 months?! man i need to cut back.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: helmet]
    #319003 - 11/20/09 01:10 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys.

Yep that's exactly what I did, I was stoned and thought it looked cool.  The leaf is solid white.  I also have quite a few colored versions, but greyscale looked best.

Well I don't smoke as often as I want to believe me.  I have to limit myself and have resorted to using a one hitter.  It has brought my tolerance down so much that if I were to pack a full bowl and smoke it, it would be the equivilent of you smoking a blunt or whatever so that's how I manage that.  1g a day keeps the crazy away!

Anyways back on topic.  These plants are ranging from 4-6 inches tall, and probably growing up to 1/2+ inches per 24hrs...  If I have about say 18-20 inches, from top of pot to the max possible growth point (below the light sources), don't you think I should flower them within 4 or 5 days?  In my opinion the plants seem to stretch a lot during flowering, even with ample light... :shrug:

Anyone have any thoughts on what I should do to maximize yield?  Should I LST these plants or try to get them narrow, tall, and packed together more like a SOG?  I could also build a ScrOG as I have the materials needed to build one standing by.  What shall I do?

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #319019 - 11/20/09 01:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

my votes for a scrog, which in my mind is a safer LST.


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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #319027 - 11/20/09 01:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

scrog is likely the highest yielding training method but I don't like fucking nets and shit binding my plants in funky ways.

I either SoG(25plants sq meter-ish) or have small bushes (9-16plants per sq meter)

with bushes I top/lst as needed for an even canopy. I probably supercrop more than lst since I find it's very time efficient.


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    #319036 - 11/20/09 02:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I'm the same way Koons, if I had the room i'd leave em untouched and grow christmas trees but that's not an option, this is a mini grow of sorts, but trying to squeeze as much bud out as possible.  I kinda like the mini-SOG method, as I don't need to train, and when I flower I'll be getting hopefully 8 or 9 females, which would be the perfect amount of plants, and that way I can grow them out larger.

The optimal plan is to grow them for TWO more weeks under the increased wattage CFL's in hopes of getting larger plants before I switch them, but then I would have to implement some sort of LST, as height WILL become an issue if they stretch more than I anticipate.


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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #319040 - 11/20/09 03:30 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

am i scrogging my plants wrong by just keeping them under my screen rather than winding them thru it? i mean eventualyl once the plant stretches out across the screen enouhg i'll let it go up towards the light. i don't have the light penetration to do a sog. i could see myself doing it if i had several t5's to put down below the canopy to encourage lower bud production.


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    #319041 - 11/20/09 03:44 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I usually see people wind it back under once it has grown enough to do so, then each brach will come up through its own hole?

I'm just using an educated guess.  I think as long as you keep the main tip down you are doing just fine!


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    #319050 - 11/20/09 05:04 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, that's the methodology i took into it, keep the tip under the screen. i just want to be able to remove the screen before flowering to transfere my plants into 5gallon buckets. i should prolly start doing that soon i suppose.

i rembmer seeing on here someone posted a picture of them letting their plant grow right up thru the screen, and bragged like it was an accomplishment lol.. wish i could find it again, but i've been unsuccesful


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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: helmet]
    #319065 - 11/20/09 09:03 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I think scrog is the way to go. Zip ties and a solid grate screen makes them a lot easier to train.


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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: jwes420]
    #319152 - 11/20/09 01:13 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah i'm still unsure, I might end up either grow as many females as possible, so the height stays down, or I can cull the worst couple females/donate them so that I have more room for the remaining ladies to get larger, and I might tie them down too.

I'm looking through for preflowers and I seem to have 1 male Crystal Plant, the tallest nicest stinkiest one of course, and 1 Female Haze!

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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #319159 - 11/20/09 01:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Are you going to destroy that male or take some pollen off it?  I voted for scrog.


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    #319166 - 11/20/09 01:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, I think scrog will be my best bet, because I can keep them low, and keep the number of plants high.  I'll get to work on building it right now!  If I end up not using it oh well, I already have the materials handy and am bored and wanted to build something anyways.

I think I might keep him separate, just use 1 clf to flower him and collect some pollen?  What do you guys think,  that way I can cross the Crystal with the Haze, which already seems to have happend...  Some of the Haze's smell a little like the Crytal too, and it is possible that crystal pollen got on the Haze females...  That's okay w/ me, makes it more suitable for indoor anyways!

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    #319367 - 11/20/09 07:33 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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What do ya think?




Wow, you're right I am proud!  Man they're just taking off!  Can't wait for flowering :vaped:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #320712 - 11/23/09 08:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:  You and me both Fox!!!

Here's the ScrOG screen I made and plan to install in a week, which should be 3-4 days before I flip the lights.

Some are already showing sex!  I can't wait to get the males out of there and free up the room they so deperately need to get a transplant and stretch their arms (branches, fan leaves) and feet (root system).



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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #320743 - 11/23/09 08:45 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Very nice screen!
You seem to be quite the handyman with all the building involved in this grow.  Looks great!


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    #320795 - 11/23/09 10:28 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

:awesome:

I'll check it out now!!! How exciting.

I am very good with my hands, as most jobs I've had consisted of me building/designing molds and prototypes out of different materials like Aluminum and different types of Wood.  I love it so much.  When I retire when I'm older I would like to build a wood/metalworking shop and make furniture and simple automotive parts that can be created on a Lathe and CNC Mill.  That's what I'd prefer to do for a living, and now is the time to try to get a job in that market again as it is improving finally!

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    #320917 - 11/24/09 06:32 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Looking good ,Dude

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    #320951 - 11/24/09 09:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

They're comin right along man!

Anxious to find out how many girls you got... Mine just started showing preflowers a couple days ago.. got a male for sure... :frown:

Pretty even growth on yours too... Maybe having them all crowded like that forces them to compete for the light in such a way that they stretch accordingly regardless of nodes etc...

Very cool dude! Good luck!

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    #321580 - 11/25/09 03:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Don't you have any concerns reducing your light form 200w cfl to only 150w hps for flowering.....wouldn't adding the hps and the cfl for the 12/12 light switch be a better idea.
400w-600w setups are super cheap. I got my 400w hps ballast and hood for $200 and the bulb for $40 and it's lasted years or infrequent use.

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    #321584 - 11/25/09 03:14 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

looking good Inverted. I only have a small concern about your screen. How big are the holes in the screen. Generally you dont want to go smaller than 1"x1". If you do it gets to hard to work the plants trough and pray you dont have to move a branch once buds have started to form. Nice build though, looks clean and pro.

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    #321664 - 11/25/09 05:47 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Don't you have any concerns reducing your light form 200w cfl to only 150w hps for flowering.....wouldn't adding the hps and the cfl for the 12/12 light switch be a better idea.
400w-600w setups are super cheap. I got my 400w hps ballast and hood for $200 and the bulb for $40 and it's lasted years or infrequent use.




:lol:

I totally see what you are saying here but i'm not getting rid of the CFL's at all, i'm just ADDING the HPS to my current lighting.

200w of CFL has done a GREAT job thus far for vegging though... Barely any stretch at all.

I won't be able to take pics for a week but I can tell you that they don't even look like the same plants...  Most are already 6 inches tall with 6-8 nodes.  I plan to put the screen in there in the next couple days, train the plants for 4-5 and then switch.

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looking good Inverted. I only have a small concern about your screen. How big are the holes in the screen. Generally you dont want to go smaller than 1"x1". If you do it gets to hard to work the plants trough and pray you dont have to move a branch once buds have started to form. Nice build though, looks clean and pro.




Thanks for checkin' out this grow Integra!  The holes are exactly 1 inch, and I figured pulling the tops through that space won't be a hassle, but any smaller and it would be.

I've gotten rid/set aside 3 males so far, with no confirmed females... I'm assuming that's because the fems usually show about a week later than the males.  I'm really getting anxious to flower now because they are starting to branch out, and already take up 1/3 of my height restrictions.  The smell is already strong and reminds me of diesel and fruit.  I'm hoping for 6 good females to weave through that screen, and I vegged longer than I planned trying to squeeze every little bit out of this box, yield wise.

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    #321682 - 11/25/09 06:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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Some are already showing sex!






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    #321700 - 11/25/09 08:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

No.

I wait until knowing sex so I don't waste a bunch of time and equipment on males...

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    #321951 - 11/26/09 01:22 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Inverted,

Nice grow! Yeah our scrogs are really similar! Yours is much nicer looking though than mine.


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    #321999 - 11/26/09 02:11 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks dude, I've been following you journal very closely, and you are doing awesome.

I'm getting anxious to see some buds, it's almost time to flower... :devil:


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    #326283 - 12/03/09 07:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

no pictures since 11/19?  Someone's got something to do....:tongue:


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    #326313 - 12/03/09 08:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

What can I say?  I have been working my ass off on the betterment of this project.  Since I basically had a woodworking shop to work in for a week, I took advantage!  I didn't have the best materials, but in the end it made the box a shit load of a lot stronger.  I can stand on any point of it and it doesn't even flinch.  Problem is, now the fucker weighs about 100lbs! :lol:

I got my camera back (parents borrowed it and took it to Mexico) and will be able to take pictures tonight.  I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

Although the plants don't look big, they are just extremely dense.  1/2 inch node spacing on most of them.  The Haze on the other had is growing like crazy.  Definitely going to have to tie them down or my canopy will be too uneven.  Also I am getting my HPS this week.

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    #326440 - 12/03/09 10:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Finally i'm able to bring you a picture update!

I was in the dark cycle (day 6) so I didn't want to go flashing them in the face a bunch so I just snapped a couple candid shots to give you an Idea.

I think I actually have 2 Haze females, unless the plant that looks identical to it (skinny sativa leaves) is a different pheno of the Chrystal, but that seems unlikely as ALL of the Chrystal plants were nearly identical. 

The new box is 90% done.  Just need to silicone the cracks and paint her with another coat and then mount the CFL's until the HPS gets here!

I'm getting really really excited, and these plants stink more than any strain i've ever grown!

Enough talk for now.  Here's the goods!  :wink:



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    #326446 - 12/03/09 10:30 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

loookin great man!  wont be long now.


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    #326620 - 12/04/09 11:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I come bearing photos!

Now that the lights are on I can take a better shot.  I still don't take much time at all though, because nothing is really worth examining too closely just yet, although nodes have starting growing hairs on the 2 Haze Females, and All plants except for one have showed their sex, and out of 15 plants, I gave my GF 1, so out of the original 14 that I HAVE, only 4 were females!!! WTF is up with that?  I'm guessing the last will be female, as all of the males showed early, as usual.

That's only a 33% ratio... that blows.  Oh well that is actually alright because now I can put 4 plants in my new box, they will grow larger because they will have more space and more light, so I'll be expecting 1oz per plant now, especially because of how these Chrystal yield... Pretty heavily.  The buds also can be rock hard if the right pheno is obtained, which I seemed to try to isolate with this group, I have at least 2 of them.  The Haze won't yield quite so much, but they are also larger than the Chyrstal by at least 4-5 inches, but is intended more for a head stash than anything.  I have trouble wake n baking with heavy Indica's.

I actually think that these haze seeds were pollinated by a chrystal male, because Lucid said he left a Chrystal male too long.  That would be great because it would hopefully shorten the flowering time and height of the plant, while still holding some of that Sativa effect.  Plus the smell was out of this world.  Smelled of pure blueberries.

If the 5th plant is a female, i'm going to have to get rid of it unless I can figure some alternate way to grow it...

The bushiness of those in the cups is unreal.  Note the leaf stacking!  They are definitely taking on the characteristics of the parent plants!  I love the kerosene smell they emit... so strong.  They have got to be nearly a pure Indica, but I thought that WW was 50% Sativa or something?  I'm seeing no Sat. traits in any of the Chrystal...

Anywhoooo I have a good feeling these are going to turn out fantastic, and that makes me smile!

I can't believe I can get away with that much rootspace and still get decent results!  The last picture is the best, fastest growing plant, and is a male, so he has been selected for breeding with the Haze, and also with another Chrystal.  I believe I got that seed mixed up and it may be an Afghani male because it's not like ANY of the Chrystal in any way.  Either way he has great traits, and I desire them.

Here we go! (Day 6 flowering, Total-Day 33 Haze/29 Chrystal)


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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #326726 - 12/04/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Did you flower them to determine sex, because in the end, preflowers dont mean shit. just curious, because none of the plants look like they are flowering. They do look very healthy and keep up the great work. Cant wait to see these girls in full bloom.

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    #326786 - 12/04/09 04:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Nearly all of the males showed sex before swithing the schedule.

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because in the end, preflowers dont mean shit.




:lol:  Are you being serious?  I've never had a plant preflower female and then grow male when flowered.  I think you are false on that statement.  I can identify the sex up to a week before the hairs even emerge... I've got a great eye for determining females early.

And to answer your question, yes they are in flowering, but the males had already shown, and 2 females.  Now that I'm on day 6 of flowering, the females have all shown except one.  I don't waste soil and transplants on males.

Obviously they don't look like they are flowering, it hasn't even been a week!  This strain is 3/4 Northern Lights 1/4 WW, but 90% of the phenos have almost the exact growth structure.  Super short and dense, meaning these aren't going to be tall at all and won't stretch as much as a strain with more sativa influence.  Like I said, I doubt they will make it over 20", not to mention i'm going to put the screen in shortly.


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    #326905 - 12/04/09 06:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

that statement wasn't meant for the female preflowers, but I have had several mothers that had no distinctive preflowers or male looking preflowers the turned out to be fantastic females. I was just trying to make sure you weren't hacking down plants based off of preflowers alone. But keep up the good work, and smoke a celebration bowl. At least they werent all male. A buddy on another site germed 10 ice seeds and got 10 males. Now thats bad luck.

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    #326968 - 12/04/09 07:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Wow! 10 of 10... I wonder what the odds of that happening are?

I'm happy with 5, IMO that or 4 is the perfect amount for my space.


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    #326996 - 12/04/09 07:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

jesus.  I would be uber pissed with 10/10 males.  and that's an understatement.  hopefully he didn't pay through the nose on those.


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Re: 12 Crystal, 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #327002 - 12/04/09 07:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i just ended up with 2 females after planting 2 seeds.

they're both different ages but both went into flowering a week ago.


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    #327070 - 12/04/09 08:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

And you aren't posting pictures? 

You know the rules man...

We are at the exact same stage, fuck yeah, gimme some eye candy! :whip:


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    #327074 - 12/04/09 08:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ok, i'll do it right now.


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    #327078 - 12/04/09 08:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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    #327091 - 12/04/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i remembered the camera battery was done charging.


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    #327093 - 12/04/09 09:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:

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    #327095 - 12/04/09 09:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i planted two seeds from mexican regs at different times starting in october.

don't get too excited.

i plan on using whatever i produce on making a little bit of hash.

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    #327100 - 12/04/09 09:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)



sorry for the shitty pics, i'm still trying to figure the camera out.

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    #327136 - 12/04/09 10:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Nice!  I like your training on the bigger one.  Topped and tied? 

You'd be surprised what can come of bagseeds man.  Might wanna rethink the hash thing once you harvest


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    #327138 - 12/04/09 10:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Cool grow.  And Fox is back yipeee.

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    #327141 - 12/04/09 10:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yea it was tied for the last three weeks until i moved it inside.

i topped a few locations about five weeks ago.


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    #327155 - 12/04/09 10:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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    #327751 - 12/06/09 04:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'm finally stepping into the HPS world!

Albeit i'm only bought a 150, When the time is right and this first harvest is finished up, I am going to take the CFL's out of the setup and use them for veg only, and am buying another 150 or 250 to add to the setup, although if I get the 250 I have to build another box, 1 with a 150 for flowering rooted clones, and the 250 for growing larger plants.

I've been getting great results with my fluorescent lights but I really have a feeling that they will lack the penetration and intensity I desire as a seasoned Outdoor grower.  I'm used to the 1,081 watts that the sun is equivalent to, and even has a better spectrum.  I want DENSE buds damnit!

Should be here around Wednesday so I'll show you guys the new setup then!  I'm so fucking stoked, even though its not a 400, my floorspace is only 2x2.  I think I'll be alright (@ ~30,000 Lumens/87.5w per SQ. Foot),

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    #327769 - 12/06/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I thinks a good time to add it to the mix.  your plants will thank you later.


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    #327774 - 12/06/09 05:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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    #328035 - 12/07/09 12:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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    #328037 - 12/07/09 12:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Excellent... :evil2:

Finished sealing box with silicone and painted it with the 2nd coat of white sealant.

About to transplant the 3 remaining girls to their final pots.  I know its the first week of flowering but they still have a few weeks of good growth left in em before they settle into bud production.


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    #328280 - 12/07/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It's a little early for a picture update, as I like to leave at least a week between updates, but I have continued to improve the new box, with silicone caulking and another coat of white sealant as stated above.

The transplants went great and they should love their new space.  Some are in 1 gallon and others in 2 gallons.  I'm testing what is the optimum amount of rootspace, while still maintaining floorspace.

Well here's where it's at!



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    #328317 - 12/07/09 07:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hey, i just saw this in the thunderdome, small growery.  Anyway looks great!  The only exception is that litttle yellow i see.


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    #328373 - 12/07/09 08:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah that's because I had them in such small containers and wasn't feeding them enough I guess.  I was watering everyday there for a while.  Now I can relax and let them grow a bit.


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    #329252 - 12/10/09 08:12 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So did you stick with the same soil mix for the transplant?

Throw in that 150w yet?

Your grow's about to take off bro... I forgot how similar our setup is, so I'm gettin excited to see these ladies start fillin out.

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    #329257 - 12/10/09 08:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I did.  They didn't show any signs of stress.

No unfortunately I haven't, it's supposed to be here any time now...

I really hope it takes off, I need enough to supply me until next harvest.  I always run out beforehand.

They are very similar,that's why we should watch and help each other out if possible.

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    #329657 - 12/11/09 01:01 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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    #329659 - 12/11/09 01:04 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks Dude!

Glad to see you here, it was overdue!

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    #329672 - 12/11/09 01:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Absolutely, can't wait to smoke a fat one of this!  Potentially get my own situation poppin' off.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
    #329952 - 12/11/09 06:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That would be awesome!  You are definitely going to get a sample of this run, I think you'll like it.  Shit smells diesel like!

Well my 150w HPS came in today!  I'm so stoked, it's a great fit for my space and combined with 200w of Red CFL lighting I think I'll be set for this grow until I get another 150 to set right next to it.  I absolutely LOVE how small and efficient this setup is!  And it really doesn't put off much heat, seems about the same as my fluorescent bulbs! (15" Long x 7" Wide, and ONLY 4" Tall!)

So stoked to see what kind of progress this thing kicks out, as i'm 13 days into flowering and buds are rapidly forming!  :omgawesome:

Pics to follow the setting up of everything!  New box will be put into use tonight.  I'm just too happy not to post about it!  I've been using inferior lighting for years.  Time to step it up!  It was holding back my skills. :yesnod:


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #329956 - 12/11/09 06:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Welcome to the HID club man!  Glad to have ya.  Now let's see what you can do with it.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #329960 - 12/11/09 07:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Now let's see what you can do with it.




Me too man, me too!  I really think that CFL's were just holding my skills and knowledge back so much.  Not saying you can't get good results with it, but if you want to pull decent yields of dense nuggets without having a 20 bulb CFL setup and a possible burnt down house; then you just have to man up and go HID.  I can already tell it's gonna be epic, even at this wattage.

The thing is, I'm going to be able to keep the 150 real close, because with a fan across the canopy I was keeping my MH 2-4 inches away from the bulb in the summer.  I think this will be an advantage to using a 250 in my space because I'll get better penetration when I can physically keep it very close to the majority of the growth.

I can't wait to see the difference after 1 week, especially since i'm in flowering and they are already growing super fast under fluoros!


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330019 - 12/11/09 08:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: tsollost]
    #330026 - 12/11/09 08:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If you are patient you will see them in a little bit.  I've got some work to do before I can mess around with photos and whatnot!

The haze are embarrassingly stretched out.  It had to be a strain deal.  They will be bent down tonight, as it would be a wast to have all that vertical space wasted on 10 nodes (20+ inches tall) whereas the Chrystal are still only 12" and lower!  I love Indicas...

Nevertheless you will enjoy the progress that has happened, although I've burnt a few leaves being a high ass and not adjusting every day.  :nonono:

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330147 - 12/12/09 12:33 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

   

Yeah I know I suck, I didn't take pictures because the plants were in their dark cycle.  I also didn't do any work because i've been stoned as fuck and can't seem to stop chatting with all of my friends.  So the work is going to have to be done in the morning and I don't have a choice on this matter!


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330151 - 12/12/09 12:39 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So sweet, I want.

Perfect size too.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
    #330289 - 12/12/09 12:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Update!  I don't remember but I think it's day 14 flowering.

I don't know why but my fucking annoying stretchy ass Haze ladies are flowering faster than the Indica Dom. plants!?  Don't get that at all but here is some pics.

That fucking box is way too heavy to be moving again, not to mention up the stairs... fuck that.



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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330293 - 12/12/09 12:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

sometimes the sativa characteristics are only in the leaves/node length and you can get dense/fast flowering buds. :shrug:

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #330295 - 12/12/09 12:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ah yes, i've heard this before.  Well I just have to tie those fucks down tomorrow so I can get ready for the scrog to get set up as well.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330296 - 12/12/09 01:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

oh hmmm.....2 weeks into flowering might be a bit late to set up a scrog.

I've never tried it, could work I suppose but I always set up the screen with about a week left in veg so they have time to adjust to it and fill it in a bit


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #330300 - 12/12/09 01:05 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, I figured as much but a lot of people seem to be pushing for it.

I'll go with my gut, and you, and just leave em be, and tie down the haze, cuz they are fucking everything up with this 1 inch per day bullshit!  I don't care if it's already flowering, hopefully it will slow them down so the Chrystal can catch up.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #330302 - 12/12/09 01:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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oh hmmm.....2 weeks into flowering might be a bit late to set up a scrog.






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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #330421 - 12/12/09 05:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

if you train them by tying, you should be able to get the screen on fairly easy after a week. but it would be essentially the same as tying at that point. next round start tying them earlier and you can get those scrog results your looking for...

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Integra21]
    #330442 - 12/12/09 06:25 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well this was mainly a test run, as quickly as possible to get myself some stash, because w/out a job it really sucks trying to get high each day.

It's also my first "flowered" indoor grow in 9 years of growing. I used to veg indoors, flower out, but this time is different as this is the real beginning of my journey in my opinion.

Next attempt, which has already germinated, will be vegetated for longer, as well as training from the start.  I'm going for maximum yields next go round, but didn't care too much about it this run.  Just mainly seeing how some of my strains turn out and how easy they are to cultivate indoors. 

I wouldn't have put 2 haze females in my grow if I was going for yield this run :tongue:


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330577 - 12/13/09 12:36 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Can anyone help me guestimate how large the bushier plants might get?  I mean they were vegged for 24 days, and have about 8-10 nodes, with the largest branches about 4 inches long with 3 nodes each.  I've never grown this far into the flowering cycle indoors before so I don't have a clue how much they might stretch before they settle into bud production.  I'd have to imagine that they flower faster indoors due to constant variables and maximum hours of light.

Can anyone help me guess how large they will get?  I'm just getting flustered trying to imagine how branchy they will get, I always forget do the branches keep growing during the first half of flowering or do they stay relatively the same size that they were at the end of Veg???



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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330677 - 12/13/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Are you gonna tie em down to the floor?

I'd screw little eyeletes into the walls of your box on each side, about half the height of the plant, tie a loop of fishing line round a sturdy place toward the top of you plant and you can bend it over a series of days and tie the fishing line to the eyelets as needed.

Then you'll get more product out the haze since you only get light on the top 2/3's of a plant growing indoor anyway.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330817 - 12/13/09 05:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If I was to guestimate I'd say they will double to trible their size, branches too in most strains.

But keep in mind that some strains may go as much as four times their size.

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    #330942 - 12/13/09 08:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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If I was to guestimate I'd say they will double to trible their size, branches too in most strains.

But keep in mind that some strains may go as much as four times their size.




Ugh I know.  Even though it's 2 weeks in to flower, I really think I have to at least bend those Sativas over to maximize this grow.

I always get myself frustrated trying to visualize where this grow will end up, because I really don't want to go through all this trouble and then end up yielding 2 oz's from 5 plants... I really hope I can at least get 125 grams out of 5 plants.  25g/plant isn't too crazy of a goal is it?


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #330993 - 12/13/09 09:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yes you should tie down the sativas in that room.

25g a plant isn't hard to get at all.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #331148 - 12/14/09 07:35 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I have had that  same problem numerous times so this next time I hopefully will maximize my space by switching lights over a week or two before, so tieing down will not be necessary. Good luck lookin good inverted. keep it up.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: blueberry D]
    #331604 - 12/15/09 01:57 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You scrogging or not?


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
    #331610 - 12/15/09 02:06 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Not, it's too late into flowering to start weaving them through a screen.

Could cause too much stress and stunt their growth, and I definitely don't want to chance a hermaphrodite.  I am however slowly tying down those sativa bastard children, but not anything too serious that could cause stress.

I'm basically going to work them so gently that they don't even notice that they've been adjusted.

Here's a non-HPS shot.  The indica's are slower to flower for some reason!?  They were 3-4 days younger than the tall ones, but they were slightly stunted from being rootbound I think?

Would that slow down the initiation to flowering if I transplanted a couple days after making the flip?

They just now seem like they made the switch to flowering, whereas the older ones had preflowers when I switched them which is why I think they are taking off.  Either way I'm not concerned and they are doing just great.  A little heat stress on the top leaves of the Haze, but they will be fixed very soon.  All in all i'm very pleased right now, and the smell is getting pretty strong. :grin:



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    #331612 - 12/15/09 02:11 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ooh!  Thanks for the new pic, looking good.  I'm excited to see your results with bending them gently.  Always a good idea in situations similar to yours.  Sometimes they just don't wanna stop stretching!


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
    #331667 - 12/15/09 08:59 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Wellll some more news. 

I finished tying down the tallest 3 females with good success.  The stems weren't too stiff and no cracks or collapses occurred.  So that's good.

Also I have 3 Master x Hindu Kush, and 4 more Chrystal seeds fully germinated and above soil.  Putting them in the veg box today, as well as transferring some of the CFL's to the flowering box to help out the HPS a little bit.  I'm going to train and veg the hell out of those Kush, and I'm probably going to put the additional Chrystal into flower after the first gaps open up.

Eventually I want to get it set up and timed perfectly so that as soon as one harvest comes out, the other vegged plants will go right in, so no time is wasted.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #331858 - 12/15/09 04:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ok sooooo,

Here's a picture of my left hand, normal and healthy, and my broken hand.  It's quite obvious... :nonono:  I need to control my temper.

Anyways I know it's definitely not time for an update, but since the grow has changed I might as well.

So I put (2) 42w 2700k and (2) 30w 3000k CFL's in with the HPS (~300watts total) since my Veg box only needs 60w right now to get my seedlings going.  I hope this helps.  I can't really see any way it would harm them, because heat is perfectly within check at 72 degrees.

I tied down the 3 stretchy phenos and they have already made the turn for the light.  I'm happy with the results already, looking a lot more clean and respectable when the canopy is reasonably even.

I'm pretty happy at this point with how it's going, although I could have trained them better in veg, and should have transplanted earlier as I can tell it stunted them.  Well here's something to look at, I know that's what most people care about anyways...



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    #331937 - 12/15/09 06:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Couple of things...you've got a pic of your right hand up there and it looks the same as your left.  maybe i misunderstood.  those things are starting to put some size on!  keep on truckin!


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    #332055 - 12/15/09 08:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Look at how flat my left hand is, then look at the massive bump on my right hand, that's the one I broke last night.  You really can't tell?  Its huge!

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    #332243 - 12/16/09 12:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
    #333718 - 12/19/09 06:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I'm far too impatient of a person to keep the updates to a full 7 days.

Day 21 Flowering.  The end of the 3rd week already... My sativas are flowering at a much quicker rate, but I also transplanted them a week before switching to flowering, whereas with the others were transplanted at the start of flowering which stunted the 2 most indicas and they just now have a good enough root mass to sustain quick flowering growth.  In the last 3 days they have all started to speed up which is nice to see.  Even the Haze is packing on the calyx's like nobody's business.

What do you guys think so far?  Get the HPS closer?  It's 5-6 inches from the plants.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #333770 - 12/19/09 08:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Looking good!  Yours are a week ahead of mine.  I have my 400w within 6 inches of the tops of my plants and it's not causing any harm.  You might be able to move it a little closer, just keep an eye on them if you do.

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    #333776 - 12/19/09 09:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the advice.  I have mad air movement in the box so I'll lower it tomorrow.  I can't wait for them to take off.  I've never flowered bud indoors as I've said, only vegged and they look so much different than outdoor!  Many many more calyx's per leaf.  Almost no leaves on that cola!


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    #334297 - 12/21/09 12:37 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so I have 4 more Chrystal in the veg box. so I think the total is 8 Chrystal and 3 Kush.  I also put 1 more unknown purple indica in there too.

12 seedlings and not enough veg light!?!?  I need to figure something out fast, but some of these seedlings are going straight under the HPS, testing out 12/12 from seed on a couple of the large cola strains.

It's going to be nice to see them a week from now.  I think that one cola is going to be pretty huge.  its also dead center under the HPS bulb...


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    #334303 - 12/21/09 01:05 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

What kind of odor are you getting from that box? I want to/am starting some plans to grow just a few plants in an apartment and I'm wondering how big of an issue smell is


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    #334429 - 12/21/09 10:43 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Grow is looking great, I don't know how I haven't seen this thread before. Those are nice healthy plants.

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I'm going 12/12 from seed for the first time too, on some Thai S-Skunk. No regrets so far!


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Crusty Ass Bastard]
    #334479 - 12/21/09 12:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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What kind of odor are you getting from that box? I want to/am starting some plans to grow just a few plants in an apartment and I'm wondering how big of an issue smell is




Actually NONE at all.  This strain doesn't smell very much.  That must be the NL taking over because it's a low odor strain.  I'm surprised, they only smell if I knock em around a bit.  I'm pleased with it!
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Grow is looking great, I don't know how I haven't seen this thread before. Those are nice healthy plants.

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Inverted said:some of these seedlings are going straight under the HPS, testing out 12/12 from seed on a couple of the large cola strains.




I'm going 12/12 from seed for the first time too, on some Thai S-Skunk. No regrets so far!




Thanks bro!  I was watching yours the whole time.  I've seen some kickass grows grown 12/12 from seed and I figure why not?  It's just extra bud the way I look at it...

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #334653 - 12/21/09 06:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing wrong with some extra bud.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: KaptKid]
    #335413 - 12/23/09 01:27 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Nothing wrong with some extra bud.




:yesnod2:

They will be tall and lanky because they won't get much of the HPS but whatever, I just germinated (7) Sensi SuperSkunk x Bubba Kush :drooling: and that is my new main focus so these 12 seedlings need to go somewhere! (Psssst! It's another Magash creation... :p )

I'm going to find at least 2 good females, then I'm going to mother them, and take cuts regularly and keep a perpetual SOG!

:woot:  I'm excited!  I've never done perpetual before or clones so this is a whole new step for me!  :awesomenod:

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #335437 - 12/23/09 02:32 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

So some of magash's creations are already getting out there eh?

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Ojom]
    #335580 - 12/23/09 01:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yes sir...  I'm shooting for the most potent mother and keeping her for a long time.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #336011 - 12/24/09 07:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Inverted! man what a great job you're doing!

It's pretty awesome seeing the difference from the last time I checked up on you.  Finally flowering!  They're beautiful keep up the great work :wink:


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #337352 - 12/28/09 02:00 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Man I need you around here more often Fox!

You have missed a lot but I'm sure it's nice to see the difference!

You should see them now though... Flowering is definitely starting to pick up on the stretchy ladies for some reason.

I think it's like Teh Ba11sack said:  They stretched out like a pure Sativa, but they had Indica leaves early on and are flowering like an indica.  Some hairs have already slowly started turning on the Sativa leaning "Chrystal" and have the most developed looking buds so far... Weird indeed! 

Pics tomorrow for my late week 4 update.  I burnt my nicest cola :crying:

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #338302 - 12/30/09 07:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Day 33 Flowering

Plants are doing nice, but not as well as I normally do.

I really fucked up this grow by using a slightly different soil mixture which bit me in the ass, as well as trying to use distilled water instead of tap.

All but one pretty much fully recovered from the mistakes and I JUST CAN'T GET THE FUCKER TO HEAL!!!  Oh well, it's still producing, just a little slower than the others.  They are really sugary already and have nice BIG trichome heads.  My last bagseed grow the heads were tiny and barely noticeable.  How they looking besides a little stunted (and the PH sensitive bitch)?

Also the last pic is my SS x BK project, with a couple future Chrystal and Kush moms as well.  Gonna be a good clone grow!



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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #338316 - 12/30/09 08:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

damn bro.

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    #338331 - 12/30/09 09:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I enjoy smelling that smell.


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    #338332 - 12/30/09 09:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

me too!  It's a shame we often have to neutralize it.  :mad:  Those plants look great to me!  Keep it up buddy!


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #338362 - 12/30/09 11:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking luscious.  I like the little guy in the plastic cup popping out the bottom left on the first flick.  Clone box is looking promising as well man.  Can't wait to sample some of these flavors.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: phantom]
    #338372 - 12/31/09 01:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Looking luscious.  I like the little guy in the plastic cup popping out the bottom left on the first flick.  Clone box is looking promising as well man.  Can't wait to sample some of these flavors.





Here's the winning Phenotype... (16" Tall, thick stalk, great branching)  Should have cloned her!  She is more resistant to the heat, didn't mind being dry at all, and was the only plant that hasn't had a single problem thus far, except for a slow start to flower which was caused by my procrastinated transplants...  Next grow will have much much fewer mistakes.  :yesnod:

Thanks bro!  All 5 have a different smell and bud structure so we are going to have to go shreddin' and make some salad bowls/joints!  They aren't quite up to Par for nearly 5 weeks... but what can you do!?  I think the mistakes I made weren't devastating, but yields are definitely going to suffer noticeably and/or take a week or two longer to flower but that's fine.

Since this was my first 100% indoor cycle, there were some things I just didn't pick up on as an OD grower.  You have to pay much more attention to detail indoors IMO...

One of the things I need to work on is precise measurements of every watering and especially the feedings.  I think some plants may have received slightly more nutrients than others, and different plants have different sensitivities (such as the problem skank) and this caused toxic levels of Nitrogen.  Clawing and DEEP Green on the new growth?  Are these symptoms accurate, does anyone know?



I also believe the bud size has been inhibited because of this f'ing problem.  Since I "assumed" it was toxicity and/or nutrient lockout due to a low PH, I flushed ALL of the plants just in case with higher PH tap water for about a week and was stupid and didn't feed any bloom nutes and the way the buds are growing tells me that they are still not getting the right ratio.  A lot of young growth is very green and more and more leaves are growing on the buds.  It's time to hammer down the Phosphorous even if there are a few clawed leaves, I really don't mind taking the chance because yield forecast is looking gloomy.

Since they are ~4 weeks from harvest, I think it's safe to give them a GOOD dose of bloom and molasses.

I know my bloom nutrients drop the PH slightly, but what impact does molasses have?  I NEED TO KNOW THIS BEFORE MY NEXT WATERING!!!

Thanks for reading my boring post! 

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #339368 - 01/03/10 10:46 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks to Lucid I was able to finally get my favorite nutrients of all time.

I've been using them for about 7 years now, after finding them at the local nursery.  It's called Neptune's Harvest.  It is an Organic Fish and Seaweed fertilizer that has done nothing less than amazing things for all of my past grows.  I wasn't able to buy any this time around because it's pretty damn pricey!  It was $32 for the quart bottle (can be found MUCH cheaper online!)  Lucid picked up that and a bag of Fox Farm Ocean Forest and wow, is that some nice soil or what.  Fuck...

Anyways long story short, he had some left over after transplants and gave me about 2-3 grows worth of Nutrients and a few gallons of the soil, which I will cut a little bit so It can go a longer.  I can't wait to stop using these bullshit ferts and use what I KNOW has always worked great for me.



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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #339550 - 01/03/10 02:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That's fucking crazy bro my stepdad used to use those ferts too... I've never seen em anywhere since...

Are you still gonna be looking into the molasses?  I was really hoping we'd get some feedback on that one too

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    #339694 - 01/03/10 05:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Oh yeah I forgot, they were fed 1 tbsp of molasses too.

I'll give it a few days and see if I notice any "jumps" in growth.  I'm sure there will be because it's the right time in flowering to use em!  It's fatten up time hopefully!


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #339706 - 01/03/10 05:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't expect the molasses to cause an explosion in growth, now odor and flavor on the other hand will definitely improve.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: coda]
    #339808 - 01/03/10 09:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Really?  I had used it 2x during veg.  Once at 2 weeks old, then a week later.  You identified my Lockout and/or Nitrogen overload so for the last 3 weeks I had only been giving them a lot of straight water.  Almost like a 3 week flush but I didn't let them get sopping wet.

I have heard that it helps but what exactly does it improve upon?

Could it possibly increase overall size of the buds or anything like that?


Also since I haven't used any Chemical nutrients in a month, I might as well keep it that way and only water w/ molasses and the Fish + Seawead Organic dankfuckin shit.  Hopefully there will be a clean taste.

My hopes of this grow are coming back.  I truly thought I had pulled a huge noob move when I fucked up my PH which I have never had an issue with, causing the lockout.  I thought they were so stunted that my yields were going to barely exist!

Now they are starting to look PRETTY DAMN GOOD,  Nug size-wise and I don't see any more signs of stress so my confidence level just took a major booster!  I examined the plants today and the majority of every nugget has really started packing on calyxs and weight. 

I was really concerned that the 150 was just far too weak, but then I found this very helpful chart, (and the nugs started taking off) which also helped raise my spirits.  As long as I do a SOG with this setup (360w), I should have NO PROBLEM pulling good yields; even with the low wattage HPS system...  It's more of how do you use it than anything. 



I'm already stoked to get my next update ready, and I still have until next Friday!  Bummer...

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #339812 - 01/03/10 09:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

looking beautiful my friend!
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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #339816 - 01/03/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

A ha!  Fox my good buddy!  So happy to see you around!

They have come a long way since you saw them last I bet!?

I really really wanna smoke you out once I harvest... All 5 already smell just incredible and each one is different!  I like me some variety.  :yesnod:


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #339835 - 01/03/10 10:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

They have definitely come a very long way!
I was a bit bummed about not being able to check your journal every few days, but going from seeing them as little babies to beautiful flowering ladies, ahhh just wonderful!  You're doing a great job.

man I wish you could smoke me out!  I still haven't gotten a new pick up :sad:  Hopefully soon though, my van is almost back on the road.  I'd be willing to drive out there if you didn't live so far!

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #339857 - 01/03/10 11:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I have heard that it helps but what exactly does it improve upon?





Black strap molasses, carbo load, sweet, etc are all sugar supplements.  Sugar is converted into terpenes which is what produces the flavors and odors from your buds.

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Could it possibly increase overall size of the buds or anything like that?




If it did increase the overall size of your buds the effects would be negligible compared to a grow without a sugar supplement.  If you're looking to increase the size of your buds look into humic extracts (IE Top Max which is my personal fave). Trichome production can be increased by using a heavy P additive (like snow storm ultra).  Increasing the levels of P and K your plant receives during the later stages of growth will help pack on weight and increase resin production.  This is why you'll see a lot growers report using things like Kool Bloom or Chaching and Open sesame towards the middle of the grow.  People who amend their soils usually create a layer or two of Heavier P + K near the bottom of the pots (as the plants root system expands during growth it will hit those layers when it can use them effectively).

As it is the basic tenants of feeding will apply, heavy N during veg and early flower, switch to a light flowering blend, increase dosage of flowering blend as cycle progresses, to finally cutting off all nutrients leading to a final flush of your substrate.


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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: coda]
    #339871 - 01/04/10 12:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Alright yeah I knew most of that, just didn't really know exactly why I was using it.  I just know it works.

I'm not looking to get huge buds, because big buds are generally more airy and I'm in love with small, compact, and heavy dense buds.  I always have preferred them over larger nugget strains... :shrug:  That's why I liked the Chrystal.  Some of the pheno's were like rabbit turds in tightness.  The colas were like a bunch of balls all stuck together.  :awesome:

I'm anxious to see which type of nuggets I get this time, as Lucid got quite the variety but I used mostly the best seeds from the best/favorite plants so hopefully I get some that mimic the parents.  The Hazy hybrids are actually grabbing my heart the most.  I put them through a lot and they are producing faster than the other strains, and smell amazingly strong like berries!  They also have the most trich coverage.  Who woulda thunk!  I meant to just get a little sample of this strain again but instead those 2 tall whores might yield a good amount of really really tasty herb.  Can you tell i'm excited?

Edit- A few hairs have started turning orange on the Haze hybrids.  It doesn't look like heat stress or light burn, or even nute burn.  It looks natural as if the buds are maturing, but i'm only on day 37 of flowering???  I wouldn't expect to see any hairs start turning until about day 45...  What do you guys think, it's only about 15% of them.


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    #340065 - 01/04/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you'll be ok, just pay attention to those calyxes and check for seed production.  If you see a seed or two pop up you got some nanners somewhere.

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Re: 12 Chrystal, 3 Purple Haze, 200w CFL's - 150w HPS (for flowering) I Have Returned! [Re: coda]
    #340117 - 01/04/10 05:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Lookin good man! will definately be
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    #340440 - 01/04/10 10:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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you'll be ok, just pay attention to those calyxes and check for seed production.  If you see a seed or two pop up you got some nanners somewhere.

Otherwise I'd say you lucked out and found a quick finisher.




I found 1 nanner in the whole lot, caught it before anything happened and never saw another one.  I check daily :tongue:

I think you are right, a quick finisher!  The only problem is it's a small yielder... :wink:  Just didn't get that early flowering boost of calyxs.  Once again I've managed to make a mistake this grow and it's another I will never repeat.  I packed the medium too tight and the roots had a tough time penetrating after transplant...

Oh well.  I'm gonna get at least a couple oz's outta this and already have the next run vegging so I'll be juuuust fine.

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Lookin good man! will definately be
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    #340442 - 01/04/10 10:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Coda you said your estimated harvest date was the 27th???

That's cool, I had mine set at the 26th.  Should be cool finishing around the same time.  :yesnod:


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    #340625 - 01/05/10 01:51 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I gave Inverted those crystal seeds, Im growing them myself and they seriously kick ass. I got a small amount from my outdoor crop last season.

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    #340957 - 01/05/10 05:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Coda you said your estimated harvest date was the 27th???




Yup, although I may be harvesting a few plants earlier on that.  The few plants which seem more sativa dominant I think are going to need another week or two.  Hardly any calyx swelling on them while the other girls are getting nice and fat.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: coda]
    #341088 - 01/05/10 06:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Nice!  I might be taking down a few branches early so I can dry them and have something to smoke while the rest of the crop is drying.  I'm not concerned with my yield this run as long as I get well over an ounce.  I already have the next run vegging and it won't be as long between harvests. 

I'll probably only get 1/4 from each of the lanky ones (most trich coverage though)

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341089 - 01/05/10 07:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Pictures coming in an hour or two!  :borat:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341113 - 01/05/10 07:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

get a move on son.  we ain't got all day! 

jk, im sure they are still looking awesome.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341172 - 01/05/10 08:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Day 39

New Flowering Chamber.  2'x2'x4'    Almost completed.  About ~3 hours



The Entire Box (Blurred)



The Giant Cola "Daywalker" :lol:  ~The size of a water bottle!



My Favorite and Heartiest Plant



Haze Hybrids :crazy2:



Haze Cola... Already can tell this is going to be the best nug in the crop.



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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341209 - 01/05/10 09:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

fuck me with a pogo stick! :rocket: :thumbup:

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: snaggletooth]
    #341238 - 01/05/10 09:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Very nice!  The haze looks really tasty.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341252 - 01/05/10 09:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

nice man. you got saws and all that shit in your garage to cut all your pieces of wood n shit?


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341262 - 01/05/10 09:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Magnificent!  I really like that 4th picture.  This gets two noms!

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #341263 - 01/05/10 09:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

My specialty...  I'm in love with woodworking.



Me and my brother are building a fish house...


Took those tonight


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341266 - 01/05/10 09:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you guys, you are so kind!  :happyweed:

No I didn't paint.  Not yet at least.

That is some crazy grain huh?  I was staring at it the other day :lol:

One of my tasks at my old job was to build airtight boxes for vacuum molding.  I also made the molds, and the gating (path of metal from the outside of the mold to different parts of the casting cavity).

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    #341269 - 01/05/10 09:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

dude, what the fuck is a fish house?  Why isn't it a grow house?!  that structure would be great.


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    #341273 - 01/05/10 09:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:rofl:

I know I want to use it for that so bad...

It's where you go ice fishing, pull that bad boy out on the lake, then you can chill in style, smoke bowls, watch TV, take a nap, whatever!

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341286 - 01/05/10 09:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

lmao, god damn.  it'd cost someone a lot of money to get me out there on that ice to fish.  i hate the cold.  :grrr:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #341335 - 01/05/10 10:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

We have a propane-fueled heater that keeps it 70-80 in there within only 5-10 minutes!  Trust me, you would enjoy it.  There is a reason we go through this type of trouble to get out there and stay warm.  Also, the cops can't bother you in your fish house!!!


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341360 - 01/05/10 10:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i like woodworking too. it's fun. i've always wanted to go ice fishing. well kinda, now that i know it's 80 degrees inside the fish house.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #341391 - 01/06/10 12:07 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i must say.

holy fucking frizzle fry.

those plants look spectacular.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: MFDoom666]
    #342107 - 01/07/10 12:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks man!!!  I'm proud of these bitches, they look much better in person.

And then there were only 4...

I found a nanner on the weakest, lowest yielding plant.  It was the shittier of the two haze...

S/he got the fuckin' AXE today.  Quick dried some and it actually gets me fuckin chopped, but I also have no tolerance.  It will be even better with a proper dry.  I'll smoke this in the next week or two while the others finish out properly.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #342181 - 01/07/10 09:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Dude I love this grow journal. I think I want to copy everything you did. It's a small stealthy operation and I love it.


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    #342185 - 01/07/10 09:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you for the kind words!  I love it too!  It's small enough to hide and give me enough to smoke all the time, plus it's like you said, very stealth.  I could paint the outside and make it look more fancy but where it sits it doesn't even get seen.

I made this journal for all the people that just want to grow for their own self, and maybe make just a few bucks here and there.  I don't ever sell anything though, I love my cannabis too much.  Plus I'm just not the type to sell stuff.  Anyways a lot can be accomplished with very little, you just have to practice and have a good journal to copy.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #342319 - 01/07/10 01:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You got that bud with a 150w HPS and some CFL's? I got my plants a few feet tall with 6, 45w CFL's and then tried adding a 4 bulb T5 setup and it barely flowered for shit so I eventually trashed the plants and got a 400w HPS but haven't gotten a chance to grow anything yet...got some 2 week old widow, ny diesel and widow x ny diesel going now though....hopefully this grow will go better.

I can't wait to see how your log goes.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #342331 - 01/07/10 01:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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dude, what the fuck is a fish house?  Why isn't it a grow house?!  that structure would be great.



:facepalm: people who dont know what a fish house is crack me up.

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    #342379 - 01/07/10 02:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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You got that bud with a 150w HPS and some CFL's? I got my plants a few feet tall with 6, 45w CFL's and then tried adding a 4 bulb T5 setup and it barely flowered for shit so I eventually trashed the plants and got a 400w HPS but haven't gotten a chance to grow anything yet...got some 2 week old widow, ny diesel and widow x ny diesel going now though....hopefully this grow will go better.

I can't wait to see how your log goes.




Yeah man, just a simple Sun System HPS 150 and (1) 65w 2700k, (2) 42w 2700k, and (1) 30w 3000k CFL's... I had more in there in early flowering but needed them for my next run which is vegging (Super Skunk x Bubba Kush) and I'm super fucking excited for that run.  Better genetics, plus I have this setup dialed in, with a brand new flowering box coming into the picture... :evil:  They are 2 weeks old tomorrow.  Like I always say, it's not all about how many watt's your lighting source is, it's what you make of it that counts.  I've seen plenty of grow logs where people pull 5 zips from a single 150.  No supplemental lighting like I use.  That's crazy...


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dude, what the fuck is a fish house?  Why isn't it a grow house?!  that structure would be great.



:facepalm: people who dont know what a fish house is crack me up.





I know.  They think it's crazy and cold and terrible, when in fact its like sitting in your bedroom fishing through the floor!!!  All the while smoking bowls and watching TV...

How can you NOT like that?


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    #342382 - 01/07/10 02:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Lol yeah really I like ice fishing, its great. Plus walleye are delicious. Lake Of The Woods FTW!

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    #342385 - 01/07/10 02:20 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Lol yeah really I like ice fishing, its great. Plus walleye are delicious. Lake Of The Woods FTW!




QFT

I went to LOTW for my 8th birthday.  So many huge Northern up there.

And BTW Walleye is one of the only fish I will ever eat.  So amazing!  I don't eat any seafood either...

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    #342392 - 01/07/10 02:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you ever had rock fish? there's a lot of other good fish to eat out there man. nothing like catching a fish, goin home and cleanin that bitch, and eatin it. tastes better than any fish you'll ever buy in a store.


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    #342393 - 01/07/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I went to Alaska and caught lots of rockfish, and cod, and Halibut. Halibut is DELICIOUS! probably the best fish there is.

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    #342616 - 01/07/10 07:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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dude, what the fuck is a fish house?  Why isn't it a grow house?!  that structure would be great.



:facepalm: people who dont know what a fish house is crack me up.




:failboat: it happens.  :shrug:  but im learnin'


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    #343040 - 01/08/10 09:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The plants are starting to bulk up a little bit.  I gave them the last dose of bloom nutes and these next 20 days are going to be slow...

I hate this part, but love it at the same time.  Hopefully they plump up in the last 3 weeks a little bit, because yield is looking kinda disappointing at this point, but I could be wrong.

What do you guys think?  Do your buds usually put on most the weight in the last few weeks?  They did get a slow start to flowering so that also may be a contributing factor.  If they do plump up though, I would be really happy.  There are LOTS of calyx's/hairs, I just hope they swell...


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    #343926 - 01/09/10 08:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yah man, I'm in the same boat right now.  I'm looking at my buds and they look nice, but I know that if I chopped em now they'd dry to absolutely nothing.  Calyx swelling usually occurs during the last few weeks of flowering so I'm hoping they're just a little behind.

EDIT: I had clipped a small tester bud last night from another plant.  Looking at it now I'm definitely seeing some nice swelling.  So I wouldn't worry too much about it my man.  Just keep up with them and chop when you think they're ready.  No harm in letting them sit for another week or two if it adds more to your sack, right? :smile:


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    #344059 - 01/09/10 01:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking quite tasty my friend :drooling:
Must be awesome opening up that pandora's box of yours and being blasted with a wave of lemony skunkiness and crystals galore.  Damn good grow so far!  Nice woodworking too, I love doing woodwork... from building down to carving, it's very meditative.


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    #344189 - 01/09/10 06:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

this got me excited for my closet within a closet im working on for my closet grow


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    #344204 - 01/09/10 06:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Nice!  I hope I can inspire more people who are worried about a small grow space because I was very intimidated by everybody with these huge grow spaces (4x6, 4x8, and larger). 

I think it's a lot easier than most people think to pull 4-6 ounces from a 2x2 footprint every 8 weeks.

I most definitely did not take the right precautions with this current run.  I should have either topped or tied them down after the first 2-3 weeks of veg, because now my plants are as tall as I would like them, yet they have a single cola.

I could have grown single cola plants but I should have flowered them earlier.  If I would have tied these plants down, my canopy would be covered with tops, instead of only having a few larger ones.

I really think aggressive LST and Scrog/Sog are the only 2 methods that should be implemented in such a grow space.  I already have the screen made for my next run and have my actions dialed in.  Finally!

If only I had my shit together when I started these I would be harvesting probably 4 ounces instead of 11/2 - 2.  :sad:

Oh well, it's a learning experience for me, and everyone who follows this log.  If you are going to do a SOG, make sure you flower right after clones are rooted for maximum light penetration.  If you are going to grow only a couple plants, veg them longer and use the Scrog and/or Topping and Tying technique to get your screen filled with equal sized colas :yesnod:  My 2 week old SuperSkunk x Bubba Kush are doing AMAZING and are already in need of a transplant.  I'm going to tie them down after transplants and then it's fuckin' ON!  Wooot!


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    #344424 - 01/09/10 09:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it's a lot easier than most people think to pull 4-6 ounces from a 2x2 footprint every 8 weeks.





:eek: WOW!  I honestly don't know what I would do with 4-6 ounces every 8 weeks.  I'd have a heck of a lot of hash I'll tell you that!  A morning wake-n-bake, a pre-breakfast joint, cook breakfast with some honey oil, go out for a nice bike ride and take a few hash crumbs along.... ohhhh the joys of cannabis.

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    #344435 - 01/09/10 09:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

So do it.

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    #344443 - 01/09/10 09:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

would if I could...

not in the right place or time.

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    #344445 - 01/09/10 09:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

lol true.

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    #344475 - 01/09/10 09:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it's a lot easier than most people think to pull 4-6 ounces from a 2x2 footprint every 8 weeks.





:eek: WOW!  I honestly don't know what I would do with 4-6 ounces every 8 weeks.  I'd have a heck of a lot of hash I'll tell you that!  A morning wake-n-bake, a pre-breakfast joint, cook breakfast with some honey oil, go out for a nice bike ride and take a few hash crumbs along.... ohhhh the joys of cannabis.

Inverted you're making me wanna grow even more now.




Good!  :super:

Hopefully when the time is right, you can look back and use this for ideas and plans.  Hell, I might even be around to help, if you are in CO that is.  I plan to move there as soon as I have my life together here first.  Build a grow box in your vanny!!! (jk :tongue:)

My next run (Magash's seeds) is going to be more professional.  I'm not fucking around testing the waters this time!  I'm going to train and veg for longer, I want lots of budsites all at one level, so I can FILL that box with nugs come time to flower.  :evil2:  I'm expecting around 5 oz's from that grow.  But lets worry about crossing that bridge when I get to it, although it's already starting the 3rd week so I'm not too far from it :wink:


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    #344477 - 01/09/10 09:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm planning on moving to CO or Montana or Oregon or Washington.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #344485 - 01/09/10 09:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you know, I do have about a 2x3x4 foot closet in my van...
no no no!  don't give me ideas :crazy2:

I'm sure we'll cross paths one day, Colorado is a place I will always be willing to return to.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Triptonic]
    #344488 - 01/09/10 09:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Legitimate grows FTW

I don't feel comfortable having a larger setup than I currently have, unless it's outdoors.  I need to have a legit grow like Harry B, so that I can step up the Lighting and Floorspace.  I'd dedicate an entire room to it, instead of just a grow box in a room.

Trip you should grow 2 females and scrog them.  With a 400, and a few weeks of veg, you could get 3-4 ounces if everything went alright.

1 plant just isn't enough.  It's really boring and you will be disappointed with what you get out of it.  You will feel like that much time for this?  Trust me, I've been there too many times...


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #344489 - 01/09/10 09:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

LOL get an extra converter in your van and build yourself the most dangerous grow box ever. (cuz of cops)

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Triptonic]
    #344502 - 01/09/10 10:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'll line the walls with sheets of kevlar, they'll never breach! mwahahahaa :vaped:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Fox]
    #344505 - 01/09/10 10:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No kidding.

I used to grow plants as seedlings in my car... :crazy2:

When I'd hop in and drive somewhere I'd have them sittin' in the sun soakin' it up.  If I WERE to get pulled over, I could have just thrown a towel over them real quick.  But that never happened.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #347381 - 01/13/10 11:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

How's the ladies coming?


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    #347388 - 01/13/10 11:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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No kidding.

I used to grow plants as seedlings in my car... :crazy2:

When I'd hop in and drive somewhere I'd have them sittin' in the sun soakin' it up.  If I WERE to get pulled over, I could have just thrown a towel over them real quick.  But that never happened.

Edit : this is only possible in the summer, otherwise they would die over night.



Its gotta get way to hot in the car in the summer.....and that is a stupid idea lol. That woulda been a felony if you woulda gotten caught.

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Triptonic]
    #347542 - 01/14/10 12:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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How's the ladies coming?




Pretty good.  Not as far along as I had thought.  They are stinky as fuck and begging to be smoked!  Day 48 now and I'm probably taking 1 down on day 55, 2 on day 60, and who knows on the last one.  The bud looks like it could just keep going...  Good for weight, but not for space.  Might just take it early...

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No kidding.

I used to grow plants as seedlings in my car... :crazy2:

When I'd hop in and drive somewhere I'd have them sittin' in the sun soakin' it up.  If I WERE to get pulled over, I could have just thrown a towel over them real quick.  But that never happened.

Edit : this is only possible in the summer, otherwise they would die over night.



Its gotta get way to hot in the car in the summer.....and that is a stupid idea lol. That woulda been a felony if you woulda gotten caught.




Yeah I know.  I was 16 :crazy2:


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #349462 - 01/18/10 04:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Day 52

Things are coming along, but not as fast as I planned.  That stunt put the flowering time up to about 60 days, so I have about a week left at least.

The Haze hybrid plant is already showing some amber, but that doesn't surprise me because she was the fastest to flower...  She's coming down in just a few days.  I'll have a more comprehensive update next week or later this week.



A sample nug :crazy2:  Can't wait to smoke that tomorrow!



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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #349467 - 01/18/10 04:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

oh good lookin nug dude. :pm: a nig a sample :lol:

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    #349473 - 01/18/10 04:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

looking really good, I'm not noticing much color change in your stigmas. Are the darker ones washed out from your lamps?


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: coda]
    #349562 - 01/18/10 06:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hey are you gonna give em any bonus dark time before the main harvest?

Obviously you can't do it to the ones coming down early, but how do you feel about a 36 hour night before harvest?

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    #349667 - 01/18/10 08:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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looking really good, I'm not noticing much color change in your stigmas. Are the darker ones washed out from your lamps?




That's the thing, they are about 80% white, but starting to turn more and more every day...  I'm confused

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Hey are you gonna give em any bonus dark time before the main harvest?

Obviously you can't do it to the ones coming down early, but how do you feel about a 36 hour night before harvest?




I've never been a believer in that.  I don't really see what the plants can really get out of it in such a short amount of time.  I'll probably just cut them right in the morning after a 12 hour period... It's getting close.  I can see milky trichs, but the amber lacks.  Hopefully that changes in the next 7 days.  I'm in no rush, but patience is starting to bare down on me.


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    #350038 - 01/19/10 02:15 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey are you gonna give em any bonus dark time before the main harvest?

Obviously you can't do it to the ones coming down early, but how do you feel about a 36 hour night before harvest?




I know growers who swear by the dark cycle right before harvest. Haven't been able to test this theory myself yet.


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Hey are you gonna give em any bonus dark time before the main harvest?

Obviously you can't do it to the ones coming down early, but how do you feel about a 36 hour night before harvest?




I know growers who swear by the dark cycle right before harvest. Haven't been able to test this theory myself yet.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: tsollost]
    #350054 - 01/19/10 04:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i know i'm going to try 48 hours of straight darkness before harvest for my stuff this time. but i'm not sure how much its going to help me usinging hardly any nutes.


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    #350301 - 01/19/10 05:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

48 hours of dark is pointless, just harvest the plant, there is no solid evidence to prove that an extended dark period before harvest does anything.


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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: coda]
    #350340 - 01/19/10 06:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

My point exactly.  The hazy one is coming down in a couple few days, and I'll give the rest 8 more days.  The higher priority plants are getting too big for the lighting in the veg box (150w).

Honestly the only reason I'm happy is because I finally get to smoke more than a tiny bit per day for a little while.  The real prize is coming in 3 months.


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    #350492 - 01/19/10 10:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

woo!  harvest time is a comin' :bigweed:

I soaked all my vapor pieces in ISO the other day and got some really nice dark amber goop.  First time to ever smoke that, it was so incredibly smooth!  Do you have any plans with all that trim?


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    #350541 - 01/19/10 11:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Indeed it is!  Already chopped one that was showing the signs of going hermie.  Damn the seeds I used...  It looks dense as fuck and I have more than I originally thought, so it's allll good.

Here's the top bud, It will probably weigh 7-8 grams dry.



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    #350558 - 01/19/10 11:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looks nice dude, do a smoke report on it. And dont forget dry pics!

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Triptonic]
    #350635 - 01/20/10 04:07 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #350906 - 01/20/10 05:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Looking really good.  Let us know how it smokes.  Can't wait to see the harvest pics.

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    #350916 - 01/20/10 05:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Looking really good.  Let us know how it smokes.  Can't wait to see the harvest pics.




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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: MFDoom666]
    #350934 - 01/20/10 06:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hell ya guys, muchos gracias amigos.

I am real antsy to smoke some of that cola.  Looks pretty frosty on the inside.  The fans on that plant weren't that coated.  The other indica is going to rock much more though.  It is actually swelling unlike this one did.  It also doesn't look affected by any pollen either.

Ah well it's gonna smoke good either way.  The haze is purpling and my basement is pretty warm, so it's definitely genetically dependent, not environmentally. I'll try to get pics of it when I harvest it in a few days but I'm not entirely sure it will show up as well as it looks in person.  The underside of the leaves are turning purple too, as well as the veins on the underside.  :crazy2:  It's got by far the lowest yield, but by far the highest trich coverage and tall fucking trich stems.  Also the best flavor and high.  I just wish it wasn't a stretchy low yielder... What can ya do :shrug:

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Re: 12 Crystal (NL x WW), 3 Purple Haze, 5 GDP - MH + CFL's... I Have Returned! [Re: Inverted]
    #351094 - 01/20/10 10:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

man that's a beautiful cola!

can't wait to see harvest pics and read the smoke report!  congrats brother


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    #351172 - 01/21/10 08:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Here's the top bud, It will probably weigh 7-8 grams dry.






That looks like some kill bro, great job. I'm excited to see how the haze turns out too.


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    #351492 - 01/21/10 06:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you guys so much for the compliments!

Well It's almost dry enough to smoke, but alas not quite there.  I cut up the cola just now to allow it to dry easier (lots of water in the fat stem) and so it can fit in my little mason jar.  I took a pic.  It's decent but the other plants will be much better fully fattened.  I noticed it was very dense at first, but now has shrunk quite a bit and is slightly spongy.  Maybe this will go away when the core has dried.  I popped it in the jar to pull some of the moisture from the core to the outside as it's not drying very evenly and that will straighten that right up.

It's day 55 and I'm getting very close to cutting the others, 5 or 6 more days.  Then Magash's genetics make their appearance in a brand new grow box, with more space, better setup design and much better ventilation and FAE.  I can't wait.



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    #351522 - 01/21/10 07:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I can't wait to see it myself. :yesnod:


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    #351661 - 01/21/10 09:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

those look pretty frosty, not bad man!

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    #351680 - 01/21/10 09:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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those look pretty frosty, not bad man!

Can't wait to see the Magash grow!




That was a 15 day premature hermie dude...  You gotta see my favorite 2 plants.  The purple haze is turning, well, purple and is knockout strong and the plant that looks most original "chrystal" looking.  (seeds were f1's that got contam'd with other pollen :nonono:)  It is mega dense and is much more mature.  The calyx's are swollen unlike that sample I took a picture of.  5 more days


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    #351684 - 01/21/10 09:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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That was a 15 day premature hermie dude...




well... :crazy2:
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    #351704 - 01/21/10 10:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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those look pretty frosty, not bad man!

Can't wait to see the Magash grow!




That was a 15 day premature hermie dude...  You gotta see my favorite 2 plants.  The purple haze is turning, well, purple and is knockout strong and the plant that looks most original "chrystal" looking.  (seeds were f1's that got contam'd with other pollen :nonono:)




Did you mean F2s?

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    #351705 - 01/21/10 10:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thank you, I just wish I could share :wink:


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    #351706 - 01/21/10 10:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No technically not because they were pollinated by some other strains, so that would make them a new cross.  Basically this grow was Chrstal x ?... :lol:  So yeah that's why it didn't turn out like I expected at all... oh well lesson learned, use better seeds next time, which I already have.  I can't wait to put the other batch under the HPS to veg under better light for a week and get used to that environment before It has to flower.


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    #351711 - 01/21/10 10:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Magash sample :bigweed:


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    #351712 - 01/21/10 10:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well I mean they wouldn't be f2's unless you used the original parents if I understand correctly.  If you just take 2 seedlings from a pack of seeds and make seeds they aren't technically Chrystal f2's.  They are just NL x (NL x WW) f1's? :shrug:

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    #352026 - 01/22/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #352372 - 01/23/10 03:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Why thank you!

And in return here are some more pics I took today cuz I was stoned and bored.

   



So close to ready.  I've been flushing and in natural daylight I can really see how close they are.  They are starting to get that flowering coloring going on.  I just want to get the more important plants under the better lighting so they can really explode.  I'd say 4 or so days and they come out and Magash's go in, plus the veg lighting for supplemental.  :yesnod:


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    #352377 - 01/23/10 03:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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