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I'm so motherfucking pissed
    #294769 - 10/10/09 07:04 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

:penguinmonkey:
Obama got a fucking Nobel Prize



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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294773 - 10/10/09 07:54 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

But he didn't get an honorary degree from ASU.  So there's a feather for your cap!


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294781 - 10/10/09 09:47 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Ya I was pissed about it at first. But he didnt ask or even apply or shit to get it. They just gave it to him. So dont blame him blame the dumbass Nobel Prize Folk.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #294787 - 10/10/09 10:21 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i guess thats just how low GWB set the bar?

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294788 - 10/10/09 10:26 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

yea that pisses me off he didn't do shit to deserve it, and APPARENTLY nobbody else did anyting to deserve it  :enraged: fucking bullshit


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #294809 - 10/10/09 11:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

it seems every tom dick and harry has his fingers in the pie :mushroom2:
(sorry I just heard some old guy say that in a commercial)



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Ya I was pissed about it at first. But he didnt ask or even apply or shit to get it. They just gave it to him. So dont blame him blame the dumbass Nobel Prize Folk.




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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #294812 - 10/10/09 11:36 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

did any of you read what he actually got it for?


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    #294829 - 10/10/09 12:08 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

He didn't get it for anything. One of the newscasters I was listening to basically said it was like he got the Heisman Trophy before even playing for a season. He basically got it because he is "supposed" to be a peaceful leader. But what they said he got it for was trying to stop nuclear arms before he was the president.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #294885 - 10/10/09 01:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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He basically got it because he is "supposed" to be a peaceful leader.



yeah thats what i heard

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #294889 - 10/10/09 01:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
did any of you read what he actually got it for?




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The Nobel committee recognized Obama's efforts at dialogue to solve complex global problems, including working toward a world free of nuclear weapons.




from CNN.com

so yeah

basically

nothing whatsoever


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We hereby recognize Barack Obama for his exemplary skills in talking out of his ass.




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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #294897 - 10/10/09 02:05 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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did any of you read what he actually got it for?




For talking about peace
not actually making the world any more peaceful
just talking about it

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294898 - 10/10/09 02:06 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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"for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples"




He's done that.  :shrug:  I just think it's really funny that arizona state didn't give him an honorary degree in May because his body of work is in front of him, yet he wins the most prestigious award on earth 6 months later.  whatever, i think it lends credence to his cause, which we should all be behind.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #294901 - 10/10/09 02:08 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

2009 - Barack Obama
2008 - Martti Ahtisaari
2007 - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, Al Gore
2006 - Muhammad Yunus, Grameen Bank
2005 - International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei
2004 - Wangari Maathai
2003 - Shirin Ebadi
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - United Nations, Kofi Annan
2000 - Kim Dae-jung
1999 - Médecins Sans Frontières
1998 - John Hume, David Trimble
1997 - International Campaign to Ban Landmines, Jody Williams
1996 - Carlos Filipe Ximenes Belo, José Ramos-Horta
1995 - Joseph Rotblat, Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs
1994 - Yasser Arafat, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin
1993 - Nelson Mandela, F.W. de Klerk
1992 - Rigoberta Menchú Tum
1991 - Aung San Suu Kyi
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1989 - The 14th Dalai Lama
1988 - United Nations Peacekeeping Forces
1987 - Oscar Arias Sánchez
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1985 - International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
1984 - Desmond Tutu
1983 - Lech Walesa
1982 - Alva Myrdal, Alfonso García Robles
1981 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1980 - Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
1979 - Mother Teresa
1978 - Anwar al-Sadat, Menachem Begin
1977 - Amnesty International
1976 - Betty Williams, Mairead Corrigan
1975 - Andrei Sakharov
1974 - Seán MacBride, Eisaku Sato
1973 - Henry Kissinger, Le Duc Tho
1972 - The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund
1971 - Willy Brandt
1970 - Norman Borlaug
1969 - International Labour Organization
1968 - René Cassin
1967 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1966 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1965 - United Nations Children's Fund
1964 - Martin Luther King Jr.
1963 - International Committee of the Red Cross, League of Red Cross Societies
1962 - Linus Pauling
1961 - Dag Hammarskjöld
1960 - Albert Lutuli
1959 - Philip Noel-Baker
1958 - Georges Pire
1957 - Lester Bowles Pearson
1956 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1955 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1954 - Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
1953 - George C. Marshall
1952 - Albert Schweitzer
1951 - Léon Jouhaux
1950 - Ralph Bunche
1949 - Lord Boyd Orr
1948 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1947 - Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
1946 - Emily Greene Balch, John R. Mott
1945 - Cordell Hull
1944 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1943 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1942 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1941 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1940 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1939 - The prize money was with 1/3 allocated to the Main Fund and with 2/3 to the Special Fund of this prize section
1938 - Nansen International Office for Refugees
1937 - Robert Cecil
1936 - Carlos Saavedra Lamas
1935 - Carl von Ossietzky
1934 - Arthur Henderson
1933 - Sir Norman Angell
1932 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1931 - Jane Addams, Nicholas Murray Butler
1930 - Nathan Söderblom
1929 - Frank B. Kellogg
1928 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1927 - Ferdinand Buisson, Ludwig Quidde
1926 - Aristide Briand, Gustav Stresemann
1925 - Sir Austen Chamberlain, Charles G. Dawes
1924 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1923 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1922 - Fridtjof Nansen
1921 - Hjalmar Branting, Christian Lange
1920 - Léon Bourgeois
1919 - Woodrow Wilson
1918 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1917 - International Committee of the Red Cross
1916 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1915 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1914 - The prize money was allocated to the Special Fund of this prize section
1913 - Henri La Fontaine
1912 - Elihu Root
1911 - Tobias Asser, Alfred Fried
1910 - Permanent International Peace Bureau
1909 - Auguste Beernaert, Paul Henri d'Estournelles de Constant
1908 - Klas Pontus Arnoldson, Fredrik Bajer
1907 - Ernesto Teodoro Moneta, Louis Renault
1906 - Theodore Roosevelt
1905 - Bertha von Suttner
1904 - Institute of International Law
1903 - Randal Cremer
1902 - Élie Ducommun, Albert Gobat
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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #294904 - 10/10/09 02:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Have any of you guys read a book called, The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey?  Some of you might be interested in it.  It's a book of biblical prophecy that predicts the end of the world.  If you read it you'll see a lot of similarity with modern times (it was published in the early 70s i recall).  it's a short afternoon type read.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: niteowl]
    #294905 - 10/10/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Okay you're totally right



just about all of the awards have been complete and utter bullshit.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #294906 - 10/10/09 02:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Meh I dont believe in all that Myan calender stuff lol.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294907 - 10/10/09 02:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Haven't read or heard of that book but the idea certainly doesn't confound me. Personally, I really do believe that history does repeat itself although not in a biblical process.

http://www.good.is/post/the-new-nostradamus/


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294908 - 10/10/09 02:16 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Ya I think the world will end with us getting blown up by our own nukes. Probably not in 2012 though. But if it does happen in 2012 I will eat my words.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: niteowl]
    #294912 - 10/10/09 02:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Dude.

2012 has nothing to do with the world ending and that is a profound misconception. The Mayans suggest that 2012 is when we enter the next age of enlightenment. The world passes though several astrological ages and we are about to enter the age of Aquarius. This is corroborated by the Christian bible in which Jesus tells his disciples that after he leaves they will be greeted by a man bearing a pitcher of water..



the correlations are astounding.. but I'm drunk and about to head to work so I'm not going to spend much more time divulging into this. I'd simply suggest actually reading into what the Mayan's had to say. And uh.. Kymatica and Esoteric Existence..


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294914 - 10/10/09 02:30 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

That book has nothing to do with the mayan calender and I didn't imply that it did.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #294919 - 10/10/09 02:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I know that I was just replying to what Triptonic had to say.

I think that link I posted may be relevant to your book though.. the whole history repeating itself thing..


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #294926 - 10/10/09 02:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

oh shit, i didn't see his comment about that.  my bad.  Personally, I'd love to have another discussion about 2012.  I still think the LHC has something to do with it all.


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    #294935 - 10/10/09 03:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just giving you shit man. But this world kinda deserves to blow up. I'm just not to into religious things cuz I find most of them to be false lol.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #295038 - 10/10/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

elcharrosays said:
Personally, I really do believe that history does repeat itself although not in a biblical process.





for sure thats a fact.

start. early civ. flourish. gov't. gov't takes control. proletariats protest. revolution. burn to the ground. repeat.

its been repeating this process for quite some time.


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Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #295039 - 10/10/09 06:38 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Dude.

2012 has nothing to do with the world ending and that is a profound misconception. The Mayans suggest that 2012 is when we enter the next age of enlightenment. The world passes though several astrological ages and we are about to enter the age of Aquarius. This is corroborated by the Christian bible in which Jesus tells his disciples that after he leaves they will be greeted by a man bearing a pitcher of water..

the correlations are astounding.. but I'm drunk and about to head to work so I'm not going to spend much more time divulging into this. I'd simply suggest actually reading into what the Mayan's had to say. And uh.. Kymatica and Esoteric Existence..




very interesting. when you get a chance can you provide some links? i wont lie, i havent done any reading on it, and i am quite interested.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: still beLIEve]
    #295044 - 10/10/09 06:49 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

y2k revisited, oh nooo

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #295050 - 10/10/09 06:56 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

the Peace Prize should be awarded "to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

i dunno why you guy seem to think he did nothing.  opening up a forum for the discussion of a nuclear weapons free world is a pretty major step considering the way the world is right now.


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    #295121 - 10/10/09 09:46 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

There was an entire nuclear disarmament movement during the early 60's which the ruling bodies paid no attention to. The peace sign was actually created for the nuclear disarmament movement and its an artist's rendition of the flag symbols for 'N' and 'D' imposed over each other. Many people over the ages have done FAR more for the cause than Obama has even pretended to.

During Clinton's term he chartered several agreements with different countries and deactivated/dismantled over 1700 nuclear warheads, 300 missile launching pads and took several hundred tons of weapons grade plutonium and uranium out of commission.

Where's Bill Clinton's Nobel Prize? He certainly did far more than Obama has accomplished so far and I'm willing to bet will do in the future.

People can and do bitch plenty about Clinton but ya gotta respect the vast amount of work he did in foreign relations. I think he did more to get all of the super-powers working and getting along together than any other president in recent times. Granted, whether or not this is a good thing is still undecided. Globalization may make bureaucrats and financiers get along with each other but it ultimately destroys the population and it's culture. People die through their economies rather than bombs.

Basically, all I'm sayin is fuck a dude named Barack Obama. Dude has done NOTHING but take back his words and I'm fucking sick of his celebrity. We've just set the bar so low after Bush even this inane bullshit looks good.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #295129 - 10/10/09 09:57 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

why do you not like obama so bad? i wont lie and act like i know a LOT about the situation or anything, but honestly i dont think he's doing to bad. of course again, thats my uninformed opinion.

id just like to hear some of your arguments for why you dont like him.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
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I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: still beLIEve]
    #295131 - 10/10/09 10:03 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Health Care Reform is a reason to not like him.......He really hasn't done anything though so I don't dislike him or like him. He's just another politician though. I hate that people really think there is going to be a huge change with him in office.

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    #295137 - 10/10/09 10:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

You're right he hasn't done anything so bad so far to my knowledge.. other than updating the Patriot Act and allowing it to extend even longer. That in itself is pretty fucked up because it means he's continuing one of the very most outrageous products of the Bush era and therefor not changing a thing.

Many of my issues with him stem from what he hasn't done and promised he would. Of course, he's just a politician and it's the name of the game, but it unnerves me that everybody thinks he's different and refuse to see things at face value.

Like I said, I have a major issue with the celebrity of Barack Obama. We love him for absolutely no other reason than we perceive him as being different even though his actions prove otherwise. I really despise the blind worship the majority of black people in this country have given to him (at least here in the south) for the sole purpose of his race and his position and not anything he's actually accomplished. He didn't become president by his own power. He was prepped and groomed and placed in the position.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #295140 - 10/10/09 10:21 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

elcharrosays, you bring up some very good points.  I just think that currently in THESE times, President Obama is doing a good job of bringing attention to the very volitile nuclear situation the world is currently in.  And by doing this I think he kind of promotes those same ideals of President Clinton and the Nuclear disarmament movement of the 1960's.  He has the right idea.

Though I do agree that his term is very young, and in ways of actual accomplishments he has yet to prove himself.  But the guys trying and making a positive impact on the global community, so i think that is what the Nobel Peace Committee is recognizing.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #295219 - 10/11/09 02:34 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Health Care Reform is a reason to not like him.......




:dudewtf:

why is health care reform a bad thing :confused:


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: niteowl]
    #295227 - 10/11/09 06:37 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

It wont work man, its a stupid idea. Huge lines at hospitals, people cant get treated right away when they need it. Canada has health care like Obama is trying to pass and it just doesnt work. Its not a good idea. Our health care is fucked up now I agree but not as fucked up as it will be once he passes that bill.

P.S. My dad is a doctor and I am an EMT.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #295237 - 10/11/09 08:09 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

a few european countries do this, do they not? i thought it worked very well over there

i am for the reform, of course again this is my humble uninformed opinion.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: still beLIEve]
    #295248 - 10/11/09 08:16 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I think it needs to be thought out more. He is way rushing into it. Ya lots of european countries have something similar. There are pros and cons. But I see more cons than pros.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #295270 - 10/11/09 09:40 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

well ultimately, the way i see it is:

any US citizen should be able to get healthcare if they have a legitamate concern.

health is one of the most import aspects in life, and unfortunately our country sucks with it. possibly because of the high rates, and obscene bills hospitals and doctors charge.

of course people who are on daddys insurance (not saying you triptonic) or have a job that covers it dont want this. why would they? nothing like this has ever crossed their mind. being sick and not being able to go to the doctor? whats that?

i went around 2 years without being able to go to the doctor for what i think is a pretty serious condition. and im young, i shouldnt of had to worry about that shit. so anyway, im sure thats why i am biased about the situation.


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: still beLIEve]
    #295271 - 10/11/09 09:46 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

What I'm saying is there is going to be a short in doctors because if health care becomes free there are going to be way more people going in. Also there are going to be long lines with a "first come first served" type situation. The health care wont be as quality as it is now. I agree they should do something with health care, just not what Obama wants to do. I'm thinking something like for people who cant afford health care there will be special clinics or doctors should be required to do 1 free day of health care a week. They get payed so much now-a-days anyways that it shouldnt bother them that much.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #295272 - 10/11/09 09:55 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Healthcare should NOT be a for profit industry.  Until they eliminate the profit motive from health care it'll be fucked for us.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #295273 - 10/11/09 09:58 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

FurrowedBrow said:
Healthcare should NOT be a for profit industry.  Until the eliminate the profit motive from health care it'll be fucked for us.




i cant believe i left that out

um YES

that is true 100%


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: still beLIEve]
    #295295 - 10/11/09 11:45 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

yeah my problem with the health care industry it being an industry

peoples lives and well-being shouldn't be in the hands of corporations who only care about money


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #295305 - 10/11/09 12:08 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

FurrowedBrow said:
Healthcare should NOT be a for profit industry.  Until they eliminate the profit motive from health care it'll be fucked for us.




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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #295328 - 10/11/09 01:01 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Triptonic said:
Health Care Reform is a reason to not like him.......He really hasn't done anything though so I don't dislike him or like him. He's just another politician though. I hate that people really think there is going to be a huge change with him in office.



Health Care Reform is needed.


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #295334 - 10/11/09 01:06 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Triptonic said:
I hate that people really think there is going to be a huge change with him in office.




and why wouldnt there be?

im not saying there will be, but why would you be so sure hes not going to do anything


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #295335 - 10/11/09 01:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The postal system is just about the only thing in this country that actually still works the way it's supposed to.

if half the population wasn't on zoloft and prozac maybe we could actually do something about it


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: elcharrosays]
    #295338 - 10/11/09 01:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

:thumbup:


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #295339 - 10/11/09 01:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Triptonic said:
What I'm saying is there is going to be a short in doctors because if health care becomes free there are going to be way more people going in. Also there are going to be long lines with a "first come first served" type situation. The health care wont be as quality as it is now. I agree they should do something with health care, just not what Obama wants to do. I'm thinking something like for people who cant afford health care there will be special clinics or doctors should be required to do 1 free day of health care a week. They get payed so much now-a-days anyways that it shouldnt bother them that much.




But... it will increase the demand for doctors and making more jobs available.

And you saying there are long lines, there are already long lines in some places in the US.

Also there are plenty of places in Canada and other countries that don't have long lines. Every time someone says we don't need reform makes me want to stab them in the face with a meat cleaver. :kingcrankey:


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #295477 - 10/11/09 05:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Triptonic said:
What I'm saying is there is going to be a short in doctors because if health care becomes free there are going to be way more people going in. Also there are going to be long lines with a "first come first served" type situation. The health care wont be as quality as it is now. I agree they should do something with health care, just not what Obama wants to do. I'm thinking something like for people who cant afford health care there will be special clinics or doctors should be required to do 1 free day of health care a week. They get payed so much now-a-days anyways that it shouldnt bother them that much.




But... it will increase the demand for doctors and making more jobs available.

And you saying there are long lines, there are already long lines in some places in the US.

Also there are plenty of places in Canada and other countries that don't have long lines. Every time someone says we don't need reform makes me want to stab them in the face with a meat cleaver. :kingcrankey:



Every time someone thinks we do I want to kill a baby!

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: Triptonic]
    #295566 - 10/11/09 10:27 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

we need reform

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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: mel_lonta_tauda]
    #295718 - 10/12/09 01:44 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

badly


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Re: I'm so motherfucking pissed [Re: niteowl]
    #295724 - 10/12/09 01:50 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

We need reform just not in the way Obama wants to do it. But anyways I'm done with this thread. I hate polotics lol.

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