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 FurrowedBrow
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 Sour Bubble 
#290158 - 10/01/09 10:46 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Has anyone ever grown this strain? It looks fantastic!
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Magash
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I like BOGs strains but find him to be one of the most overrated breeders out. Example: How do you cross a White Label Bubble Gum female and a White Label Bubble Gum male and get a whole new strain out of it. Then start selling seeds of that strain for more then the original White Label seeds.
This is Blockhead 
Purple Kush 
Grandaddy Purple 
A lot of strains are gonna look killer in pics and crap. Read up on the strains and find grow reports from people that have grown the strains. Find out how they smell, taste and type of high and you'll be much happier in the long run. Who knows the strain ya might be looking for may just be the Sour Bubble.
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Mako]
#290364 - 10/02/09 02:01 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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 it looks like it tastes and smells soooo good.
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
#290521 - 10/02/09 11:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like BOGs strains but find him to be one of the most overrated breeders out. Example: How do you cross a White Label Bubble Gum female and a White Label Bubble Gum male and get a whole new strain out of it. Then start selling seeds of that strain for more then the original White Label seeds.
I think this depends on the breeder to some degree though. In fairness to BOG and the proponents of his seeds (of which there are many), selection is the major determining factor in the end quality of product.
Take RezDog of Reservoir Seeds for instance: This guy has never worked with an original/landrace strain in his life, he relies on his skill of selection and subsequent crossing, and he has some of the most popular strains on the market today.
That said, I haven't had the opportunity to grow any BOG strains until now, so I will wait to pass final judgement until I have experienced it for myself.
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Magash
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I hear ya but I've know the Bogster for some time. My brother is very good friends with him and I've grown his gear. Here is some of his lifesaver. Like myself his whole family is into the trade.
These are hjs lifesaver
Now let me let you in on his breeding tech. He puts a male plant in the middle of the room and surrounds it with females then shakes the male plant. 
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
#290550 - 10/02/09 12:25 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magash said:
Now let me let you in on his breeding tech. He puts a male plant in the middle of the room and surrounds it with females then shakes the male plant.
 Good technique, simple yet effective. I'll give this a go when I have enough willing ladies.
That was a joke right? Or am I just too baked.
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
#290725 - 10/02/09 05:47 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So do you not think his plants are keepers?
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I think he's just saying the BOG strains are over rated in his opinion. I won't have an opinion for several months, like you. That blockhead magash posted makes me drool every time i see it. I wouldn't mind working with that one in the future. Looks like it has a huge calyx to leaf ratio.
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Mini-Maggie
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BOG has good strains. My  dad is a picky old fart who has to have every little thing just right, He likes BOGs strains but no he didn't think any were worth keeping as permanent mothers. I would have kept a couple but if one little thing is wrong with the strain he bails on it. 
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what didnt your pops find to his liking if i may ask-also what has he kept?...im thinkin of gettin some BOG but its been pointed out WLBG X WLBG cant give u more than WLBG...and im not shitting on selection- shit thats where its at, buts White Label has been makin BG since '93 i believe so I'd assume the genetic is fairly stable-making selection somewhat easier IMO...then again i really dunno- and still drool over BOGS stuff everytime i see it.
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Magash
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: PFA]
#291428 - 10/03/09 09:10 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Don't get me wrong. I liked the strains like my daughter said I just didn't find that they were different from many of the other strains.
Strains currently in stock-
Grandaddy
Trainwreck
NYC Diesel (real not SOMA's bullshit)
Home made version of blueberry
Sweet 16
Bubba Kush
OG Kush
Sour Diesel
Purple Kush
Grape Ape
Purple Erkle
Northern Lights x Afghani (home made)
Skunk#1 (had it since the early 90s)
Few other strains used in breeding.
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
#291432 - 10/03/09 09:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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who's stock is that?
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81renaissance
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Magash's
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81renaissance
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I'm looking forward to the November Sour Diesel release by Reservoir seeds!
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captain.koons
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Most breeders don't rip off other peoples strains. (okay, well I suppose that's a bit silly to say). Reservoir finds highly guarded strains and works with them without permission. Such as his SFV, Chemdog, Blueberry(although not highly guarded)
I don't know how popular I'd say he is. I mean he has a release 2-3 times a year and it sells out quick but how many packs is he selling? (I doubt anyone but him and GN/Dutch knows) I mean Trinity was his biggest sale and it was only a few pages of listings on seedbay.
I thought the concept was neat that he essentially gives you a grab bag of elites but that concept quickly dwindles once you find out his shit isn't close to stable, it tosses nanners, and he's not really providing anything others don't already.
His upstaging of his own strains ripping on other breeders is fairly lame too. If he was the authority on dank I think he would keep around a few workings for continual releases, no one is going to make a few great strains on there own each year.
He would be a lot more unique if he had actually been granted permission to use the chemdog strains and was the only one able to. Since a few breeders have been handed the cuts to work with.
I ran a few packs of his double strawberry diesel and couldn't give away the seeds I didn't use.
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At the risk of sounding ignorant, I thought that strains at this point were basically a 'free for all' as far as breeding goes. You got a cutting or a seed then grow it out and breed it however you want if you want. I get a different understanding from your post koons. I can understand the respect that goes into stabilizing a strain but imo i think the strains are just out there for the betterment of the plant, not the breeder.
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^^^wh0rd...
also not being able to give those seeds away is a BIG rip...you guys must smoke diamonds...
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captain.koons
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At the risk of sounding ignorant, I thought that strains at this point were basically a 'free for all' as far as breeding goes. You got a cutting or a seed then grow it out and breed it however you want if you want. I get a different understanding from your post koons. I can understand the respect that goes into stabilizing a strain but imo (perhaps socialist opinion) i think the strains are just out there for the betterment of the plant, not the breeder.
You are entitled to your own opinion, more precisely your own set of moral values.
A more condensed and strong version of my thoughts would be. I like Simon at Serious seeds, he took the Indiana bubblegum clone and isolated a great representation of it. Reservoir on the other hand does minimal selection and releases pollen chucking plants that may be dank if you ever manage to find all the nanners before the seed the shit out of your weed.
As far as the argument on clones or genetics goes.. it's going to be a matter of your personal morals personally I think that a breeder should get a royalty for all of his work if and only if he allows another breeder to work with his genetics. Everyone ripping off each others work doesn't really better the plant, it tosses flavors around and narrows gene pools. It betters the plant if everyone goes out and works with landraces and even those basic building blocks of weed like the Skunk, Haze, and Afghani.
I'm not saying my opinion is the best, it's what it is... my personal opinion on the situation.
I do respect Reservoirs IBL's assuming they turn out well. His Sour Diesel and Chemdog are supposed to be good. I may even give his seeds another shot. It won't change what I think of his business practices.
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Magash
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The guy who know his shit is Steve at Spice of life. You can almost guarantee that if you get a female plant from his seeds it's good enough to make a mother. He has the best eye for selecting parent plants period.
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
#292367 - 10/05/09 05:29 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like Spice of Life. Blockhead and Sweet Tooth FTW.
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Interesting. I've got a lot to learn about breeding and the info you guys have provided has been great!
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: PFA]
#292519 - 10/05/09 08:42 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ran a few packs of his double strawberry diesel and couldn't give away the seeds I didn't use.
send some to me, i'll put em to good use 
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81renaissance
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: coda]
#292533 - 10/05/09 08:54 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Coda, Magash, what are your thoughts on DJ Short and/or Shantibaba in terms of their quality as breeders.
I think Shanti is kind of above reproach, but I don't know much about DJ except what I've heard about his individual strains.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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captain.koons
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Coda, Magash, what are your thoughts on DJ Short and/or Shantibaba in terms of their quality as breeders.
I think Shanti is kind of above reproach, but I don't know much about DJ except what I've heard about his individual strains.
Shanti > All
Magash thinks likewise.
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: coda]
#292544 - 10/05/09 09:08 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I ran a few packs of his double strawberry diesel and couldn't give away the seeds I didn't use.
send some to me, i'll put em to good use
My friend who I'm going to be growing with enjoyed and procured most of the Double strawberry diesel and will probably want to run them.
I'm going to be working on Chocolope, Matanuska Tundra, Matanuska Mist, my ol' white widow. If I can keep busy enough and avoid the DSD maybe ill send you them :P
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Shantibaba knows his shit. DJ weeeell he did do Blueberry. 
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
#292590 - 10/05/09 10:12 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm on a list to be selected as a tester for Shanti's new lines.
Really excited about that.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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Magash
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You know your gonna find something good.
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: Magash]
#292598 - 10/05/09 10:18 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seriously.
He's not disclosing exact genetics so that its a blind test, but one of the new releases is 50% haze, and I'm betting its his Mango Haze which would be
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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captain.koons
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Aren't these new? He did say new haze hybrids.
I want the haze C which is 4 parts haze, 3 parts northern lights, 1 part skunk.
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Me too! Love me some Sativa doms.
Who are you over there?
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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captain.koons
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captain.koons
it's new hybrids, not mango haze.
I hope I get that haze c.
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Inverted
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Wow I like this thread!
Good read...
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81renaissance
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it's new hybrids, not mango haze.
I hope I get that haze c.
I think they are new hybrids of the stock that shanti normally uses.
Its always a combination of his classics...Neville's Haze, SSH, Mango Haze, NL, etc.
I don't think there will be genetics in there that we haven't seen from Shanti before, just a different combination.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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captain.koons
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Well im sure he has various skunkxhaze nl xhaze nl x skunk selections.
I guess time will tell if these are hybrids of his previous workings or new workings entirely.
They could be hybrids, time will tell.
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81renaissance
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CK: Congrats on getting that C hybrid.
I was chosen for B and I'm stoked!
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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captain.koons
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Was B your first pick?
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81renaissance
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I didn't put a pick out there, I just left it up to fate.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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captain.koons
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That's cool too I guess 
Goodluck!
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81renaissance
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Thanks, are you gonna post the log here in addition to the MNS forums?
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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captain.koons
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I suppose so.
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damn- i gotta get in the game...free shit and i aint around?
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: PFA]
#296454 - 10/13/09 07:43 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is one of the good ones.....BOG's stuff can be a hit or miss but grown right,the SBBX3 can be straight-up FIRE.
I just made some pollen(STS)from another kick-ass strain,The White and hit up a SBBX3 clone I had.....excellent beans,crazy hybrid vigour...soon to finish.Testers available.
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http:// Quote:
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At the risk of sounding ignorant, I thought that strains at this point were basically a 'free for all' as far as breeding goes. You got a cutting or a seed then grow it out and breed it however you want if you want. I get a different understanding from your post koons. I can understand the respect that goes into stabilizing a strain but imo (perhaps socialist opinion) i think the strains are just out there for the betterment of the plant, not the breeder.
You are entitled to your own opinion, more precisely your own set of moral values.
A more condensed and strong version of my thoughts would be. I like Simon at Serious seeds, he took the Indiana bubblegum clone and isolated a great representation of it. Reservoir on the other hand does minimal selection and releases pollen chucking plants that may be dank if you ever manage to find all the nanners before the seed the shit out of your weed.
As far as the argument on clones or genetics goes.. it's going to be a matter of your personal morals personally I think that a breeder should get a royalty for all of his work if and only if he allows another breeder to work with his genetics. Everyone ripping off each others work doesn't really better the plant, it tosses flavors around and narrows gene pools. It betters the plant if everyone goes out and works with landraces and even those basic building blocks of weed like the Skunk, Haze, and Afghani.
I'm not saying my opinion is the best, it's what it is... my personal opinion on the situation.
I do respect Reservoirs IBL's assuming they turn out well. His Sour Diesel and Chemdog are supposed to be good. I may even give his seeds another shot. It won't change what I think of his business practices.
get the real deal '91 cut of The Chem....trust me. It'll blow any watered-down version outta the water.
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Shop for: Toilet Paper
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: blissedout]
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I haven't grown it out yet. I've got all those seeds in storage for the time being. You should be excited! You having a log?
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Edited by blissedout (08/24/10 01:07 AM)
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FurrowedBrow
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Re: Sour Bubble [Re: blissedout]
#464573 - 08/20/10 10:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah, gotta prepare the mental and physical space first. remember us here if you dont have a log we'd still love to see some pics. good luck man.
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blissedout
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Registered: 02/08/10
Posts: 109
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Thanks man. I will make a log for sure.
Edited by blissedout (08/20/10 11:01 PM)
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