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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Stoneth]
    #156113 - 12/05/08 03:10 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Some just have better genetics. That's probably what it is...Unless the other is getting root bound or something, but it doesn't seem that way.

That big one is one you want to clone, and keep as mother...Or I would.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: mhbound]
    #156196 - 12/05/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

If they give me a chance Ill be cloning both if they let me.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Amnesiac]
    #156399 - 12/06/08 12:24 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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does that 10/14 really work? i mean, seriously, would this just provide the plant shorter days to make the plant flower shorter as is always concerned about flowering not developing other tings like bountiful trichs & tight calyxes.  in your experience does this cause loose fluffy buds or small yields?




I have never actually done it and wouldn't care to. It seems like it would give inferior results.




it is only necessary for strains from or near the equator. it would stretch any indica or indica satvia hybrids.

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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Stoneth]
    #160286 - 12/10/08 11:59 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

it is now known plants grow faster with 24, show pre sex from seed slower, but grow faster. either that or 18+ hrs is all u need to know. nothing other than 12 on 12 off for sure on flowering


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
    #160571 - 12/11/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yes I get the hole 24hr and 18 hr light thing. Im using 18hr now just in a different way by going 3hrs on an 1hr off.

About the presex from seed one as ever showed me anything other than flowering a single clone from each. This way if there is a male it could be delt with and removed from the veg so u get just the females and no seeds. If someone knows different please advise me.

I do plan on using a 12on 12off under 400watts HPS.

Im using this post to insure I dont make as many mistakes as I ve done in the past. I think I ve got it covered but better to ask just in case.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Stoneth]
    #161765 - 12/13/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

i dont think you do get it bro, just leave it on for 18+ str8, trust me. doing that 3 on 1 off or whatever is a mistake. im not trying to sound like an ass bud. its just how it is.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
    #161773 - 12/13/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

There have been numerous documents on this that say it works. Growers in high times etc...And I would have to say they know what they are talking about, but again I have never tried it. I may try it just to see next grow.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: mhbound]
    #161776 - 12/13/08 01:52 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

hey mh, whats up man, i have to say that tweeking with the light like that will stress the plant big time.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
    #161778 - 12/13/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Yea, I thought the same thing in my first posts in this thread, and then I went and did some reading after magash or someone said it has been documented...And I found out it has some backing to it, but I still like my 18 hours, and 12-12 flowering...May try this for fun though.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: mhbound]
    #161807 - 12/13/08 03:20 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Dude thanks I see that some people will read,
But that this point according to Ed R. the lighting times Im using is less stressful on the plants than say 24hrs and if my light had a exturnal bal. I would most likely have went with the 24hrs. But my bal is enturnal there for that makes way to much heat have tried temps reached around 89 to 97 degrees which we all know is way to high. So by leting the light break on every three for a 1hr period that is not a problem. Ive read alot on Ed R. and like his work, And latly been reading alot of Magash and others here so my flowering will be at a 12on and 12off under a 400 HPS.

But the question at hand has been answered thanks for the help. To keep track check out Dead mans grow room in the Grow J.  Will check in here to see if more advice is given thanks again PEACE GUYS.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Stoneth]
    #203143 - 03/04/09 09:21 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

OK guys been awhile since I have updated this.
I'm at 6 weeks into flowering.
These are three clones that have made it.





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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Stoneth]
    #203146 - 03/04/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

For the most part those plants are beautiful man, but what I mean by the most part is a very small thing that is of very little worry.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: mhbound]
    #203172 - 03/04/09 11:10 PM (15 years, 28 days ago)

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For the most part those plants are beautiful man, but what I mean by the most part is a very small thing that is of very little worry.




What's on your mind man.
I have 2 to 4 weeks left.

If you can help a better out come.

By all means advise me.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Stoneth]
    #203202 - 03/04/09 11:49 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

The thing is it's the tips of very few leaves. If it were affecting more I may suggest something, but at this point your plants are so healthy I think it would be almost wrong to change anything. I have to guess that since you are only 2-3 weeks away from finishing that, that is whats causing it.

Keep an eye on it I guess but unless it spreads drastically its not going to cause any problems within a few weeks. The tips of some leaves are yellowing, very very few of them though.

I don't think any of my advice will help the situation unless it continues to get worse incredibly fast.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: mhbound]
    #203241 - 03/05/09 08:52 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

The yellowing you're seeing could be any number of things. First that comes to mind is Ph because of some of the oddly growing fan leaves visible in most pictures. It could also be boron or magnesium that is affecting the cola in the third to last picture.

What kind of ferts are you giving them at what strength? Have you checked your Ph recently? What are the temps in there, I know you had a problem with them earlier in your grow?


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #203279 - 03/05/09 11:22 AM (15 years, 27 days ago)

Yea I had problem with temps earlier but now they are 65 to 75.
I'm using flora nova fert.
Per gallon 5 ml Floranova bloom 1 ml Floralicious Plus and 10 ml Liquid Koolbloom.
I forgot the super thrive at 1 ml per gallon.

Ph is 5.6 to 5.8.
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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Stoneth]
    #203346 - 03/05/09 01:36 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

I assume by micro you mean grow, and coolbloom is koolbloom but well let those slide. :wink:

I have used floranova nutes for a long time and just recently switched away from them. If you check out the feeding schedule here you will see that you may want to use a bit higher dosage, I'd go with around 10ml bloom per gallon. I have also had Mg deficiencies with floranova so you might want to try some epsom salt or cal-mag type additive.

Ph and temp sound good though, keep it up.


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Re: Ideas for better out come [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #203399 - 03/05/09 04:40 PM (15 years, 27 days ago)

OK man I'll work that in the mix in a day or so.
I corrected the other post I was in a hurry earlier.
For some reason the link wouldn't work for me.
Is it the same as this chart here.

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/161047#161047


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