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Coco Growers Thread.
    #7395 - 04/21/08 11:46 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

We all know that our method beats both soil or full hydro so here's a thread to discuss our favorite media.

Here's my preferences for Coco.

Ph. 5.5 to 5.5

Mix 60/40 Coco/perlite

Nutes Canna coco, WTF would you use?

Please add and discuss.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #7538 - 04/22/08 12:21 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

where do you get yours from ?


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #7672 - 04/22/08 12:49 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

My friend hasn't grown indoors yet but is getting ready to, and he's been leaning towards a soilless grow medium (pots, not hydro). Coco and perlite looks like it might be better than vermiculite peat and perlite (two is easier than three :hehehe:). Are there any reasons why this is the case? :smile:


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
    #7768 - 04/22/08 01:12 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

No reason at all, Coco is the most user friendly media out there. For simple low maintenance growing, you can't beat Coco.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #7789 - 04/22/08 01:18 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

You've sold my friend on it. :smirk:

He was leaning towards soilless to begin with. It says its resistant to bacteria and fungal growth. Anything else wonderful about it?


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
    #7871 - 04/22/08 01:47 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Only having to water it once every two or three days. The fact that beneficial bacteria such as trichoderma with thrive in it. The ease of flushing at the end of the flowering period compared to soil... the list goes on.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #7879 - 04/22/08 01:51 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for making this thread! :thumbup:


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #9522 - 04/22/08 09:40 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

:bongload:


100% chunky coir,  top fed for 15minutes, 3x per light period, on a recirculating flood table.

2.0ec  pH 5.7-6-1

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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #9858 - 04/23/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Mr Dexter! Good to see you.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #10382 - 04/23/08 12:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've never tried straight coco but maybe i'll give agroponics a shot. I usually use a alot of coco with a real airy soil mix which is a little denser than coco but not much. Might have to try some of my plants coco/perlite to compare.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #11512 - 04/24/08 06:27 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

I've got a couple questions for you. :wink:

How do you administer your nutrients? Is there simply a set amount diluted in the water every time you water the plants, the amount changing depending on what cycle the plants are on? Do you use a meter to measure the dissolved salts and then decide how to feed them based on that?  The more in depth you get the better. :smile:


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #12465 - 04/25/08 07:43 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

havent gone straight coco yet.. i have a shit ton of it here though..guess im gonna have to give it a whirl

good thread bro ..  good to see ya helping out...:stoned:

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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
    #12841 - 04/25/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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I've got a couple questions for you. :wink:

How do you administer your nutrients? Is there simply a set amount diluted in the water every time you water the plants, the amount changing depending on what cycle the plants are on? Do you use a meter to measure the dissolved salts and then decide how to feed them based on that?  The more in depth you get the better. :smile:




I make up about ten gallons of nutes at a time and store them in a light proof drum fitted with a tap.  I water simply with a small watering can.

I like to use 1/4 strength nutes on clones, 1/2 strength for veging than full strength fo flower all as per bottle directions.  I also give them a watering of straight PH corrected water once every two weeks to reduce any build up of salts.

I have a EC meter but haven't used it in over a year, as I always use the same nutes and have come to know what concentrations of nutes work at which stages.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #12842 - 04/25/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

fuck, ive probably already asked you this, but i'll ask again, have you ever ran 100% coir?  Or other types of coir than you normally use?  What made you settle on 60/40?

Personally, i've always used chunky coir, its almost like mulch, but the last time i was at my local gardening center :wink:, I picked up some stuff which is very fine grade.  I think its called 'Phase One', its packaged by the makers of the 'EZ Clone' machine.  Ive got a batch of clones coming up im gonna run them both side by side, and see which one the girls like better.

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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Dexter_Morgan]
    #12991 - 04/25/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I've never used straight coco, I like using a mix as it seems to drain better and it's more aerated.

The coco I get in bags from my hydro shop is mainly fine ground with <10% chunky bits. If it was all chunky I probably wouldn't need as much perlite.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #13528 - 04/26/08 12:31 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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I make up about ten gallons of nutes at a time and store them in a light proof drum fitted with a tap.  I water simply with a small watering can.

I like to use 1/4 strength nutes on clones, 1/2 strength for veging than full strength fo flower all as per bottle directions.  I also give them a watering of straight PH corrected water once every two weeks to reduce any build up of salts.





Awesome. Do you put clones straight into your coco mix or do you use rockwool cubes? How do you start feeding the clones the nutes, the same day and once every day, or what? Just trying to develop a better sense of everything. :smile:


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Sirius]
    #13591 - 04/26/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I like to use one inch rockwool cubes, straight ph corrected water and low light until they're rooted, use a plastic propagator like this..
http://www.greenharvest.com.au/images/Tools/mini_greenhouse.jpg">
Mist the inside of the plastic lid a few times a day for the first week and dont soak the rockwool, it just needs to be damp, not flooded, I use a ten ml syringe for watering the cubes and give them about 4ml each cube every day or two.
Keep the vents closed for the first week and put a sheet of paper over the top so the clones get no direct light.
Trimming the leaves right back helps prevent water loss due to transpiration and low light levels reduce photo synthesis allowing the clones to concentrate on rooting instead of stressing by trying to photosynthesize light while having no incoming nutrient supply.

Only start giving them nutes and full light when they have visible roots.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #13613 - 04/26/08 02:33 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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Keep the vents closed for the first week and put a sheet of paper over the top so the clones get no direct light.




interesting, i'll have to try this next time i clone. I usually see roots between 7-10 days using peat pellets and a humidity dome. Whats the average time you see roots using this method?


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: coda]
    #13922 - 04/26/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

About the same time frame, 7 to 10 days on average.


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Re: Coco Growers Thread. [Re: Hanky]
    #13989 - 04/27/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

I'll still have to try it out, this strain im currently working with has proven to be a bitch to clone so far.


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