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PsilocybinMike said:
I don't think he's gonna win anyway. I hope not anyway. He seems  a lot like Bush to me. If Obama wins I feel like it's going to bring a drastic and long overdue sense of change to this country.

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yeah i know he taught constitutional law.

that doesn't mean he practices it. afterall, he did support the FISA amendments 2008 which besides the patriot act has to be the biggest strike on the 4th amendment so far.

is he gonna end the Fed? afterall, it's technically unconstitutional.
no of course he won't. it's "necessary" to our economy. if he really knew the constitution, he'd know that only gold and silver should be legal tender. is this policy outdated? i don't personally think so, but if it is, why hasn't there been put forth a constitutional amendment to change this and allow a central bank? it is forbidden in the constitution.

what about the NSA and homeland security? again, he already obviously supports the unwarranted surveillance of innocent americans.

he'll do nothing to change foreign policy. he will continue the bush wars, working to "end" them as "responsibly" as possible.

god i'm just so pissed that it's always


an interesting article i read today:
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This time, however, the Republicans had a chance to nominate the only candidate who embodies everything good that the Republican Party has ever claimed to stand for. Ron Paul is undoubtedly the most pro-life, pro-family, pro-property, pro-liberty, pro-Constitution candidate in history.

The Republican Party and its apologists that write for the red-state fascist blogs and magazines and host the reich-wing nationalist TV and radio talk shows did everything they could to persuade people from voting for Dr. Paul in the Republican primaries.

The nomination of John McCain over Ron Paul means that the Republican Party should never again be taken seriously when it comes to even the slightest pretense of being a friend of liberty, free markets, and limited government.

Whatever glory the Republican Party may have had when it came to liberty and limited government is now departed, and with a vengeance, judging by the treatment given to Ron Paul supporters at the Republican convention

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MistaUNGA said:
is he gonna end the Fed? afterall, it's technically unconstitutional.

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This time, however, the Republicans had a chance to nominate the only candidate who embodies everything good that the Republican Party has ever claimed to stand for. Ron Paul is undoubtedly the most pro-life, pro-family, pro-property, pro-liberty, pro-Constitution candidate in history.

The Republican Party and its apologists that write for the red-state fascist blogs and magazines and host the reich-wing nationalist TV and radio talk shows did everything they could to persuade people from voting for Dr. Paul in the Republican primaries.

The nomination of John McCain over Ron Paul means that the Republican Party should never again be taken seriously when it comes to even the slightest pretense of being a friend of liberty, free markets, and limited government.

Whatever glory the Republican Party may have had when it came to liberty and limited government is now departed, and with a vengeance, judging by the treatment given to Ron Paul supporters at the Republican convention

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MistaUNGA said:
is he gonna end the Fed? afterall, it's technically unconstitutional.

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Could you point out where in the Constitution the Fed is forbidden? I really don't think it's in there- Hamilton was wanting it from the start.

So, not so much 'un'constitutional as 'extra'constitutional. Like the Louisiana Purchase, maybe.

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is he gonna end the Fed? afterall, it's technically unconstitutional.

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Could you point out where in the Constitution the Fed is forbidden? I really don't think it's in there- Hamilton was wanting it from the start.

So, not so much 'un'constitutional as 'extra'constitutional. Like the Louisiana Purchase, maybe.

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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MistaUNGA said:
is he gonna end the Fed? afterall, it's technically unconstitutional.

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Could you point out where in the Constitution the Fed is forbidden? I really don't think it's in there- Hamilton was wanting it from the start.

So, not so much 'un'constitutional as 'extra'constitutional. Like the Louisiana Purchase, maybe.

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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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Agreed.
But then we're back to the Louisiana Purchase. Clearly not authorized explicitly- so therefore reserved to the States or the people, right?

So, why isn't anybody bitching about giving the middle of the country back to France?

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John Kennedy before his death planned to end the Federal Reserve System to eliminate the national debt a central bank creates by printing money and loaning it to the government. Kennedy understood its danger to the country and the burden it placed on the public. Thus, on June 4, 1963, he issued presidential order EO 11110 giving the president authority to issue currency. He then ordered the US Treasury to print over $4 billion worth of "United States Notes" to replace Federal Reserve Notes. He intended to replace them all when enough of the new currency was in circulation so he could end the Federal Reserve System and the control it gave the international bankers over the US government and the public. Just months after the Kennedy plan went into effect, he was assassinated in Dallas in what was surely a coup d'etat disguised to look otherwise and may well have been carried out at least in part to save the Fed System and concentration of power it created that was so profitable for the powerful bankers in the country. Those benefitting from it had good reason to be involved in the plot to save the special privilege they weren't willing to give up without a fight. It's a plausible explanation that may explain who may have been behind the assassination and for what reason. Whatever the truth is, the banking cartel was only in distress a short time. Once Lyndon Johnson took office, he rescinded Kennedy's presidential order and restored the cartel's former power. It's kept it ever since and is now, of course, more powerful than ever. Even presidents are unable to stop it and those who would try have a lesson from history to give them pause.
http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/3649

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MistaUNGA said:
perhaps...

but the fed hasn't been around 100 years yet. so there's still time to dissolve it! Kennedy tried to, but then he was assassinated...

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if our currency were based on hard money, there wouldn't be a need for the fed. it would be much more stable.

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Nixon really fucked the dog on that.