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Re: best solvent? [Re: captain.koons]
    #130537 - 10/08/08 09:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

What is chloroforms legal status in the states? Is it watched?


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Re: best solvent? [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #130538 - 10/08/08 10:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah. Pretty much I believe. Unless your a certified chem lab, it's kinda hard to get.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #130565 - 10/08/08 11:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not from the states but it's supposed to be readily availible basically anywhere in the world. Just tell them it's for something other than the use of making drugs.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #130701 - 10/09/08 04:12 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It's used in meth making, and to put people to sleep. If it's not watched, it should be. But I'm pretty sure it is. Plus, it's kinda dangerous.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: Dr_T]
    #130743 - 10/09/08 12:28 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

theres a lot of things that are used in meth. Chloroform unfortunately for you is not watched. You can get it at most hardware stores as a cleaning solvent.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: Dr_T]
    #130877 - 10/09/08 08:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dr_T said:
It's used in meth making, and to put people to sleep. If it's not watched, it should be. But I'm pretty sure it is. Plus, it's kinda dangerous.




Not really dangerous. It can be dangerous if heated up rapidily or inhaled in excess (it was used as a anestetic until it murked some people)

I actually just bought 5gals of it without even showing ID.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: captain.koons]
    #130908 - 10/09/08 09:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Dag. Guess I was wrong. Must be thinking other chem then or just full of shit :smile:. One of those....>.>......<.<


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Re: best solvent? [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #131220 - 10/10/08 02:30 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Well 5gals is 20 000ml if I don't want to recycle it when I use some via distillation it won't last super super long.. A lot of my friends want me to do codeine extractions and I wanna extract mescaline, dmt, ect.

Codeine extractions will be frequent as fuck though probably lose a half litre a day doing those.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: captain.koons]
    #131579 - 10/11/08 04:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Mescaline extraction IMO is way more fucking work than the end product is worth (used hexane and that shit melted plastic and gave me monstrous headaches). Plus I kinda feels it's cheating cause you don't have to gag down a foot of cactus or a cup of slime tea. But if you can do it....rock on.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #131640 - 10/12/08 12:49 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I heard if you do a good extract and clean up your product the high is more pleasant than drinking down than the effects of that slime tea... Probably stores a lot better too.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: captain.koons]
    #131673 - 10/12/08 08:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

BlargIAmDead, your headaches are probably from not have good ventilation and breathing it in....these things are all pretty unhealthy, may want to consider wearing a mask and doing it somewhere open, like outside deck or something....cant be good for you.  hope it wasn't too harsh.

just a guess, but i dont think any extract can last longer than dried cactus, dried peyote buttons last years.

koons, have you done any mesc extracts yet?  love to see how they turn out.


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Re: best solvent? [Re: Chapter 4]
    #131683 - 10/12/08 12:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yeah but how convient is it having a bunch of dried cacti (not peyote) if you had slime tea or extracted mescaline you can dose on the fly.

(I was comparing shelf life of extracted mescaline to cacti slime)


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Re: best solvent? [Re: captain.koons]
    #131701 - 10/12/08 03:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ahh gotcha. liquid does have its advantages, but recently i have found gel caps work great for powdered herbs...time consuming though!


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Re: best solvent? [Re: Chapter 4]
    #131706 - 10/12/08 04:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I got a powder pal with my scale

gelcaps areeee ezpz I made 132 gel caps and weighed them in around an hour.

I've heard of people making ayahuasca and mescaline cacti slime and drying out the liquid and putting it in gel caps too... sounds interesting :P


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Re: best solvent? [Re: captain.koons]
    #131950 - 10/13/08 12:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

much faster then me lol...i had one of those gel cap filler things, whatever they are called...but wasn't ever good at using it....but get caps sure as hell help disgusting things go down!


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Re: best solvent? [Re: Chapter 4]
    #131954 - 10/13/08 01:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

gelcaps are good for selling smack on the corner too :shrug:


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Re: best solvent? [Re: wowitch420]
    #131983 - 10/13/08 03:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

a lot better than those little baggies or baloons

I think a lot of addicts would prefer the little wax baggies though.


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Re: best solvent? -- 99% ethanol is damn near impossible [Re: coda]
    #828253 - 08/31/17 07:54 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Go to a distilling site: you'll see:

For chemical reasons too complicated to go into here, about 94% ethanol is the best that can be done without vacuum distillation.

Products (such as Heet) which are industrially produced like that are always adulterated with some kind of poisonous denaturing solvent to prevent people from avoiding the liquor taxes by drinking them. Because I'm not sure about what denaturing agents are used, or how well they will evaporate, I'd proceed with caution in using any denatured ethanol product. 180 proof "everclear"-like drinking ethanol works just fine, at least in my experience.


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Re: best solvent? -- 99% ethanol is damn near impossible [Re: peterthooper]
    #828257 - 08/31/17 11:13 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Welcome to the Growery.

You might want to check the age of threads around here. We are a slow forum these days and have a lot of older threads laying around. I doubt you'll get any responses from the original users involved in this thread.

I personally have nothing useful to add other than the word azeotrope, which is the ratio of ethanol to water which has a lower boiling point than either ethanol or water by themselves, thus preventing removal of water through distillation beyond that point.

Additionally, the vice tax on ethanol, and the practice of intentionally poisoning ethanol in order to ensure that the government maintains its iron grip on the alcohol supplies of the nation is some serious bullshit. :2cents:

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Re: best solvent? -- 99% ethanol is damn near impossible [Re: Data]
    #828279 - 09/02/17 01:13 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Captian  what type of chloroform and purity?


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