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hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand?
    #430525 - 06/09/10 07:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

hello like i said i am new to the growery and really really want to start my first grow! i did some research about soils and lighting and i know what kind of hid lighting i am going to buy offline but i was just wondering if anyone knew of any good brands of soil i can buy already in the bag and just add a few things to it??? i read about making your own but i only have a few of the items need around where i live so if any1 can just give some ideas of brands that i can get would be great! oh and i heard fuck miracle grow i heard several times in forums!! lol thanks again my freinds in the growery!!!

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #430563 - 06/09/10 09:17 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Fox Farm Ocean Forrest soil is very popular here.  I also use it, straight out of the bag.  Some growers add perlite to it but many do not.  Often referred to as FFOF here in the forums.

If you have a hydroppnics shop by you, ask the folks there what is popular.


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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: Psuper]
    #430734 - 06/10/10 11:35 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i wish i had a hydro store around me! lol i think the closest 1 is over 3 hours away lol i live in the staight country with nothing around!! lol but do i just use that and that only maybe with some perlite or do i have to add anyother soil or bone meal or anything like that??? thanks sooo much for your help!!!

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #434610 - 06/17/10 11:37 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I would recommend any potting soil that does not contain any slow release fertilizers (hard to go wrong if you buy something organic).  Make sure it has a lot of drainage.  I personally am using 50% Black Gold with 50% perlite.

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: SmOakland]
    #434612 - 06/17/10 11:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i like a mix of 50% soil 30% perlite 10% coco coir and 5-10% organic compost


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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: Inbred_gimp]
    #434935 - 06/18/10 10:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

black gold? is that ocean forest?? and i actually found ocean forest potting soil and been hearing amazing things about it! did you guys every use it personally?? and when you say organic you mean like worm castings?? thanks again for your help ... oh and also can you tell me what kind/brand of nutrients you guys personally like to use to feed your plants? thanks again everyone!!!!

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #435176 - 06/19/10 01:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Been useing FF/OF for two years.

Good Shit


Edit: also use FF nutes in soil.


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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #435250 - 06/19/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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black gold? is that ocean forest?? and i actually found ocean forest potting soil and been hearing amazing things about it! did you guys every use it personally?? and when you say organic you mean like worm castings?? thanks again for your help ... oh and also can you tell me what kind/brand of nutrients you guys personally like to use to feed your plants? thanks again everyone!!!!




No its this http://cache.planetnatural.com/planetnatural/images/large/black-gold-soil-lg.jpg.

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: SmOakland]
    #435280 - 06/19/10 07:29 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ff thats fox farm right lol sorry like i said im new i did a good amount of research and thats why i would like to use ocean forest and im gettin a 600 watt set up with both bulbs and a 4x4 grow tent and im goin to hook up duct work...im planing on the works!! but i just wanted what what pros on the growery like to use as soil lol thanks alot and keep it coming guys!!!! your the best!!! and does it really matter if i add a little perlite or best straighta outta bag?? thanks again!!

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #435285 - 06/19/10 08:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It is hard to have too much drainage, and perlite gives the soil good drainage.  The numero uno problem for new growers is overwatering, which is harder to do if your soil drains well.  Good drainage allows the roots to have adequate air.  The only drawback is that you have to water more often, but this is not really a problem if you are indoors doing a small scale operation.

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: SmOakland]
    #435290 - 06/19/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

im going to be doing about 4 or 5 plants i think ...thatd probly be good for a 4 foot by 4 foot area right??? and i really dont mind watering them at all so thats not a problem...so i think ill get the fox farm ocean forest and add like 20% perlite think im on the right path here my freind? lol

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #435324 - 06/19/10 11:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yup Im about to start.... And am using FF

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #435355 - 06/20/10 02:41 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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im going to be doing about 4 or 5 plants i think ...thatd probly be good for a 4 foot by 4 foot area right??? and i really dont mind watering them at all so thats not a problem...so i think ill get the fox farm ocean forest and add like 20% perlite think im on the right path here my freind? lol




Yup.  Remember to wash your perlite (put it in a bucket of water and only use the stuff that floats).

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: SmOakland]
    #435412 - 06/20/10 11:30 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ooohh thanks i didnt know that! is that the finer stuff shinks and the bigger stuff floats?? and thanks soo much guys  i appraite it ...i got some good seeds but dont wanna spend the cash for the nicer ones till i get the hang of this and i have 1 more question i am planing on getting a 600 watt system for bothing flowering and veg to start and geting a 4x4 grow tent does everyone think this would be good for 4 or 5 plants??? thanks again every1!

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #435417 - 06/20/10 11:48 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

a rough estimate says 50 watts per square foot so 600 watts should be enough for 12 square feet of grow space.  You are wise to just use the seeds that you have for your first grow.  Who knows, maybe they have excellent genes.

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: SmOakland]
    #435441 - 06/20/10 12:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

thanks buddy! i just figured i didnt wanna spend like 50 or 70 dollers on some high quality seeds for my first grow lol and i wanna get the hang out spoting males and all that ya know..just wanna get in the flow ya know! but thanks buddy so 600 watt would deff be enough for a 4x4 grow space? even if i have like 7 or 8 plants in it??

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: SmOakland]
    #435541 - 06/20/10 11:10 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

and with the 50 watt thing you think i can add a few more plants in my 4x4 grow tent with my 600 light system?? if so what do you think? i know i am asking alot but i really would like to know what you pros that done this for awhile would recommend for that amount of grow space in a grow tent with the 600 watt light system lol i would like to fit as many as possible! lol :grin:

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: Inbred_gimp]
    #436906 - 06/24/10 11:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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i like a mix of 50% soil 30% perlite 10% coco coir and 5-10% organic compost





thank you! :grin:

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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: gary123]
    #437210 - 06/24/10 09:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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and with the 50 watt thing you think i can add a few more plants in my 4x4 grow tent with my 600 light system?? if so what do you think? i know i am asking alot but i really would like to know what you pros that done this for awhile would recommend for that amount of grow space in a grow tent with the 600 watt light system lol i would like to fit as many as possible! lol :grin:




4x4 foot area is good for 1k setup.  You can do it with a 600, but why have popcorn buds along the perimeter draining energy from your main tops?

I'd go with 3x3 or 3x4 for a 600w, depending on the shape of the reflector (rectangular or square, etc).


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Re: hello i want to start my first grow but was wondering the best soil brand? [Re: Inverted]
    #437862 - 06/25/10 09:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

FFOF, I add perlite even thought FF has it in it already.


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