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Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED**
    #65921 - 06/25/08 03:05 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

If you like smoking honey oil but hate dealing with butane, then this method might work out for you!  It's relatively cheap, all materials can be found at local retailers, and it leaves you with a product that's just as good (or better) then butane extracted oil!

Materials Needed:

1 Mason jar (the more trim/buds you use the bigger the jar)
No Residue Electrical Contact Cleaner
Coffee Filters or Filter Paper
Glass Baking Pan or Glass Bowl




This is the electrical contact cleaner i used.  This is not the best brand! Be warned!  This product contains some ethanol which WILL LEACH OUT SOME CHLOROPHYLL!!  However, if you don't want to take the time to order this, you can pick up the QD cleaner at home depot or lowes (i think ace hardware has it as well) for 8$.  If you have a chemical supply store in your town you can always call and see if they stock it.  It's not illegal, requires no permits, and is not a watched chemical.  Just dress nice, pay in cash, and you should be fine.



Put the red straw in the nozzle, take your jar (i used a quart jar), and then press the straw against the side of the glass.  Spray the hexane into the jar until the can is empty.  Note: this sucks!  Takes about 2-3 mins to empty one can, your finger will get a bit tired holding the damn nozzle down.  One can gave me a little under a pint, which ended up being a little more then i needed for the trim i have.  I suggest filling the jar you want to use with your trim first to get a good look at how much hexane you will need.  If you want you can use two jars and empty the hexane in one and then pour it over the trim in the other jar.  This would probably work best for larger extractions. 

EDIT: A pint of hexane may seem small, but it's more then enough to handle a quart jar full of trim.  As long as you don't try and cram a 1/4 lb of trim into the jar, one can of cleaner is more then enough.  Once you start shaking and soak the material, it will settle down a bit and that full jar might settle to about a 1/4 of a jar.  Either way, as long as there's a way for the hexane to swirl and come in contact with the trim, you'll get a nice efficient pull.



This is the jar with one can emptied into it. Once in the mason jar, dont seal the lid right away, make sure all the tetrafluoroethane has evaporated before sealing the lid tight. (try sealing the lid tight, shaking violently, release the pressure built up and repeat until there is no pressure release after the shaking)



Once your jar is filled with hexane, take your trim/bud and toss it in.  Can't tell you how much i used because i didn't weigh it.  But the old rule still applies, the more you put in the more you get out.  Hexane is like butane in the sense that it will leave you with a very pure product.  So, your final yields will be small compared to something like a water extraction or an ISO extraction.  Also note that if you do use the QD cleaner the final product will not be as pure because of the chlorophyll.  It will produce a black oil instead of the light, tan/brown oil.

Now i have to let the jar sit for 8-12 hours.  I put the trim in around 2:30 so 10:30 my time i'll post back with the rest of the pics.  Hopefully i'll have it evaporated tonight so i can get a pic of the oil.

(I changed this up a bit, see the final post in the tek)



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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #65949 - 06/25/08 03:48 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

claiming something will work just as well as BHO is a big claim.

butane converts inactive alkloids into active ones.

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i'm also unsure as to what the final product tastes like but you can water cure your weed for a week to remove most of the chlorophyll but a lot of the flavor will be lost also.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: captain.koons]
    #65968 - 06/25/08 04:02 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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claiming something will work just as well as BHO is a big claim.

butane converts inactive alkloids into active ones.





Butane also extracts THC only, other active alkaloids are left behind which hexane picks up.  It's also not a claim, hexane works just as well if not better then butane.

If you can, please link me to where you read about butane converting inactives into actives.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #65973 - 06/25/08 04:14 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I believe it was discussed by some chemistry dudes on the topic of making budder.


I think it was on the OG or ICmag site. No idea really.

Prehaps refering to the Merck Index or Erowid would answer this question.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: captain.koons]
    #65978 - 06/25/08 04:18 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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I believe it was discussed by some chemistry dudes on the topic of making budder.




Yah, i know what you're talking about.  It's all talk though, there's no solid proof that it actually converts the alkaloids.  A lot of people don't think budder is anything more then really potent oil that's been whipped.  Never saw the stuff in person, so i can't really comment.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #65980 - 06/25/08 04:22 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I believe at the time I read this information there was referancing to the Merck Index which is basically a pharmacology encyclopedia. I could be wrong.. no sense arguing :smile:


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: captain.koons]
    #66254 - 06/25/08 11:08 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

ok, the whole process is finished.  Here is the rest of the writeup.



this is the jar after 8 hrs of soaking.  I shook it occasionally, but it sat still for the most part.  It turned the hexane a nice light green/yellow.



I thought this would be a great and simple solution to straining the hexane.  However the filter clogged up because of the trim.  I managed to get 1/2 of the jar out before it wouldn't drip out.



I flipped the jar over, carefully removed the jar ring, then stuck the filter in a small, hand held pasta strainer.  The mesh was big enough to catch any big pieces of trim if some splashed out.  This method worked better, but the last little bit took forever to drain out.  I took the trim out and dumped it on the filter paper and tried to squeeze the last bit out.  Bad idea.  Not much came out, and what little did drip down ended up mostly on my hand.  It's not going to instantly fuck you up like a strong acid will, but it is a skin and eye irritant.  I definitely suggest against squeezing it.  If you want to get more out do another pull with solvent.



this is the finished result of straining.  Nice, pale, yellow.  I knew at this point i wasn't going to get much, but at least what i was getting would be good.






Here's the hash!  I took a pan that was a similar size as the one with the hexane.  Then i filled the pan with steaming hot water and placed the hexane pan on top of it.  Put the pans in front of an open window, plugged in a fan around 5-6 ft away (in case of sparks from the motor) and pointed it to blow across the dish.  30 mins later the hexane had evaporated.  I took the pan into the kitchen and put it on a burner on med-hi until i could smell the distinct smell of vapor floating up.  It probably got a little too hot, but im confident there is no solvent left over in the hash.  Note: Hexane is flammable, it's easier to work with then butane, but you still need to watch out for sparks and such.  Don't smoke around it either, make sure your glass is pyrex before placing it on the stove burner, and don't leave it on the stove for more then a minute or two.

Scraped a match head size amount and put it on top of a bong hits worth of weed.  I am officially baked out of my gourd :laugh:  the quality is definitely equal to butane oil.  I estimate i pulled about .3 - .5  Not surprising considering the amount of trim i used.  I really wasn't expecting much, just wanted to try out this method myself to see how easy it is.  I'll definitely do it in the future, albeit with larger amounts of trim, because it's hassle free and relatively cheap.

*EDIT*

After making Hexane oil a few times I can now safely say that the 8-12 hour sit time is way overkill.  I now just constantly shake and swirl the jar for 20-30 minutes before straining and evaporating.  So you may skip the long waiting period and still pull great yields.  Obviously the more you use the better your yield



Some results from a recent run of oil with a 20 minute shake


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #67168 - 06/26/08 11:03 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

So when you make hash (by doing extractions), does it always come out like a resin ball? Wouldnt that be a pain to store/handle compared to pressed kief?


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #67214 - 06/26/08 11:44 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

yes, oil is a pain to handle compared to dry kief.  However, it's much more potent.  There are several thing to do to make handling the oil easy.  Freezing it is one way, using a method like hanky does in his acetone thread is another.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #67232 - 06/27/08 12:12 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

coda said:
yes, oil is a pain to handle compared to dry kief.  However, it's much more potent.  There are several thing to do to make handling the oil easy.  Freezing it is one way, using a method like hanky does in his acetone thread is another.




Yea hankys way looked pretty good.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #67233 - 06/27/08 12:15 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

25% yield via hanky's tek is mean too.

I wonder how butane, iso, hexane, ether, acetone compare in yield.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: captain.koons]
    #67235 - 06/27/08 12:17 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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25% yield via hanky's tek is mean too.

I wonder how butane, iso, hexane, ether, acetone compare in yield.




Probably not too bad. We were talking about the way he makes the hash easier to handle.


Wasnt the hexane reusable?


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #67236 - 06/27/08 12:20 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

oh yeye working it in with kief.

I'm kinda barred out right now.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: captain.koons]
    #67422 - 06/27/08 11:38 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

25% yield via hanky's tek is mean too.




actually that's pretty good if i'm reading what you wrote correctly.  If you put an oz in and get a 1/4 out that's pretty fucking sweet IMO.

Quote:

Wasnt the hexane reusable?




yes, the hexane CAN be reused.  However you have to build a basic distilling apparatus, so there's some work behind it.

Quote:

I wonder how butane, iso, hexane, ether, acetone compare in yield.




BHO, hexane, and acetone probably yield roughly the same.  The acetone may give you more compared to the others, and the BHO would probably yield a bit less.  But the amounts are probably so close to each other it's insignificant.  ISO will yield more because it's a less pure product.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: captain.koons]
    #67499 - 06/27/08 01:07 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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captain.koons said:
butane converts inactive alkloids into active ones.





Quote:

captain.koons said: a big claim




please explain to me how an inert hydrocarbon can possibly react in any way with an "inactive" alkaloid.


coda, cool process, thanks for the photos!  but do u mind telling me WTF you had in that jar that requires the sticker seen in the second pic. :eek:


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Yrat]
    #67570 - 06/27/08 02:51 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

LOL!  I was hoping someone would notice that :laugh:

My girlfriend used to work for a pharmacy, she took a lot of those little prescription stickers you see on bottles about side effects.  That just happens to be my favorite one :laugh:  Hey, maybe in the end it'll keep peoples grubby hands outta my stash :wink:


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #67621 - 06/27/08 07:08 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

I noticed it I just thought I wouldn't ask :P

I'm going to call my pharmacy tech friend.. I want some now!


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: captain.koons]
    #71284 - 07/03/08 11:55 AM (2 years, 27 days ago)

badass tek, so simple

ive never done an extraction but i feel pretty confident i could do this one


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #78648 - 07/10/08 08:31 PM (2 years, 20 days ago)

So after playing with coffee filters, you see why on the seventh day when, according to popular myth, God supposed to be resting, It really created the vacuum filter.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: Eleutherios]
    #78704 - 07/10/08 08:50 PM (2 years, 20 days ago)

look, if you really want to make an elaborate setup to extract the hash, that's up to you.  This was all about simplicity.  Most people don't have, or want to, the tools to create a vacuum filtration setup. 

The coffee filters work fine, it just takes some patience.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #78840 - 07/10/08 09:39 PM (2 years, 20 days ago)

You can get them cheaper than you think. They are great for any sort of extraction. All you need is about a 500mL Erlenmeyer flask with a sidearm, a tube, stopper, ceramic funnel, and hand pump. A few places even make it a convenient package. At any rate there is nothing suspicious about it and it can be had easily for about $60. If lets say, the idea of not wasting trim alone is what you need it for, then it would save you so much time and hassle that its worth it. Plus maybe grow some morning glories and harvest, dry, and grind some nice immature seeds. Make a tincture. Your cool new vacuum filter proves handy. Got some dried cacti on your hands? I promise you won't miss fucking with that gunk. I promise it will be worth every penny, especially if you are nuts about psychoactive and medicinal plants.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: Eleutherios]
    #79045 - 07/11/08 08:18 AM (2 years, 19 days ago)

again you're adding a step that's not needed in this extraction.  Most people don't want to be bothered with a vacuum setup.  I'd say it's safe to assume 90% of the people out there don't even know how to work under a vacuum.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #79263 - 07/11/08 12:30 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)

I understand what you mean that most people won't bother with it. Its not really an extra step though. Its just a more efficient tool for the coffee filter step. Its simply a device that pulls the liquid through the filter paper, which is a finer filter anyways. Rather than waiting for it to drip through. There's not much to it. I wasn't trying to complicate your tek though. I was just pointing out that an electric drill would do the job faster and more efficiently than the hand held screwdriver so to speak.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: Eleutherios]
    #79433 - 07/11/08 03:24 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)

I suppose, but still, it's not like it took hours for the liquid to drain through.  It just didn't sluice through as quickly as i thought it would.  Essentially you only need the filter to make sure the little bits of trim don't get through, you could probably use a more porous filter if you wanted to.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #79458 - 07/11/08 04:21 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)

CODA, WHY DO YOU USE A GLASS JAR? YOU COULD USE A CHAMPAGNE GLASS!


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: captain.koons]
    #79653 - 07/11/08 08:31 PM (2 years, 19 days ago)

:lol:


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved)
    #105744 - 08/07/08 07:50 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

This thread was moved from Marijuana Cultivation.

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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: geokills]
    #105902 - 08/07/08 10:00 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Nice post Coda!!!!


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #106282 - 08/08/08 03:43 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Cannabinoids aren't alkaloids. Cannabinoids don't have any nitrogen atoms.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: Jimmy]
    #106625 - 08/09/08 10:38 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

:rolleyes: ok, fine, terpenophenolic compounds. 


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: coda]
    #107643 - 08/11/08 06:54 AM (1 year, 11 months ago)

Pedants do have nitrogen atoms.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #111493 - 08/19/08 06:27 PM (1 year, 11 months ago)

That's excellent. I love nitrogen.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: coda]
    #116482 - 08/31/08 03:50 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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:rolleyes: ok, fine, terpenophenolic compounds. 




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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: coda]
    #120399 - 09/10/08 08:21 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Could VM&P Naptha be used for this extraction?  It is mostly hexanes and similar weight hydrocarbons, and it evaporates clean.
I wonder if THC could be "gelled out" like a dmt freeze precipitation...


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: trichome]
    #128127 - 10/02/08 07:14 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

heres my setup










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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: INC]
    #134373 - 10/19/08 02:49 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

very, very nice!  I see you use the lab grade reagents.  Your final product was probably a bit cleaner then what i produced, i also don't have the luxury of a hot plate.

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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** (moved) [Re: coda]
    #156226 - 12/05/08 05:27 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

coda do you think it really needs that long of soak in heptane? id imagine if you did it faster you would have a lighter looking oil. i havent tried this yet but i do use ethanol and butane depending on how much money is in my pocket and where im at. ethanol picks cholorphyll up very quick along with thc so if theres ethanol in your heptane i would think a quicker process would be more pure. im sure that heptane would get most of the thc probably in 10-20 mins of just shaking, correct me if im wrong. also have you ever tried putting the heptane in the freezer first so it chills the ethanol? that might help alittle also.


edit: i ment hexane not heptane. sorry i was talking about something else to somebody and heptane came up and wrote it here. another case of writing my thoughts not what i was meaning.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: durban_poison]
    #156644 - 12/06/08 04:01 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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heptane would get most of the thc probably in 10-20 mins of just shaking




Even less time.  I used the same brand of contact cleaner as Coda and followed the same procedure, except I used two 5-10 minute washes with plenty of shaking.  I'm confident most of the resins were extracted.  I also used the contact cleaner to dissolve the resin in my vaporizer whip.  A quick spray dissolved the resin instantly.


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    #163860 - 12/16/08 02:41 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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butane converts inactive alkloids into active ones.





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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: johnnyblaze2316]
    #174439 - 01/02/09 05:54 PM (1 year, 6 months ago)

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coda do you think it really needs that long of soak in heptane? id imagine if you did it faster you would have a lighter looking oil.




to tell you the truth i was just following the advice of someone else on a different board.  He let his jars sit over night which was actually a few hours longer then I let mine sit.

The only way to be sure would be to do a side by side test.  Compare the oil from quick pulls to the oil from a long extraction and see what's better.  Personally if the oil and yield was the same or better from a quick extraction you would be a lot better off.  The thing is this isn't like ISO or acetone, you'd have to have multiple cans of hexane, or a large volume of it, to do multiple pulls of the same material.  It may get a little bit expensive if you don't recycle your solvent and become impractical if you can get the same results from letter it sit longer.

However, like i just said, if there really is no benefit from a longer sitting period by all means do it quicker.  I'll be doing some more experimenting with it come the end of the summer, but for right now my closets empty and i have no material to play with.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #190275 - 01/28/09 07:14 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Interesting, I could go get a can of this right now and try it on my grinder and shake I've got lying around. Hell if I got .5g's then it'll be worth it especially if I learn something. Nice post!


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: weedy]
    #196200 - 02/15/09 10:42 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

No problem man!  Just remember that smaller amounts of material require smaller amounts of hexane.  Also, even though you mentioned it already, don't expect huge yields from shake and grinder left overs.  Depending on your amounts even .5 gms might be a little high.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #214503 - 04/10/09 08:27 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Wow!  That sounds way to easy. There is nothing dangerous about hexane?


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    #214702 - 04/11/09 07:53 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

i used to make this stuff all the time with bunk ass ditch weed and used to sell my oils for 50 bux a gram. not many people bought it unless they had smoked oils before but i loved having it around, especially mixing it with different kinds of weed. my screening process was much different, i forcefully pulled the hexane through a fine reusable coffee filter (with a vaccume and a modified pickle jar lid) that i aquired from an expensive coffee machine that had broke. i used the high quality hexane, the stuff on the link somewhere in this thread. it was always golden delight!!!!!!! looked smelled and smoked amazingly. no nasty tastes, just pure oil. and u can do this with ANY kind of female resinous plant. like i said, some good old bunk ass weed can be turned into  weeks worth of hash. you can pick up a few garbage bags full and still have plenty left at the source to do it a few times. i always dried the fuck out of it before i made it though

and by the way, the only reason i thought of using hexane years ago was because they extract soy bean oil with it, and a very curious article concerning the ability to aquire hexane. i tried it and the first time was marvelous compared to using butane, i would have to say its much less of a rushed way of doing things as compared to butane, you cannot get frozen by hexane, and if you do take your time, you could make a very nice distillery for the recycling of hexane.. i may be doing this come fall season with some of my outdoor crop. ive made this oil before with amazing results. No doubt this is the way to harvest your oils


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: tg105]
    #214870 - 04/12/09 10:27 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Sweet!  Could you use mushies in place of the trim?  Would that work somehow?  LMAO


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Affenicum]
    #215874 - 04/15/09 06:36 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

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There is nothing dangerous about hexane?




Like with almost any solvent you use to do extractions, hexane is extremely flammable.  This is not a process you want to do around any open flames or sources of ignition.  Don't go taking a bath in the stuff either or spend time huffing the fumes that come off the jar, that won't leave you feeling too pretty afterward.

ANY solvent you work with has inherent dangers, you should handle all chemicals appropriately and with caution.  This process is more safe then others, but that doesn't mean the chemical itself is not dangerous.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #216171 - 04/16/09 02:01 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

well said coda. also i meant as for the process, you can do it with any resinous female weed plant. seeded or not, it turns out to be some nice oil. ive had nothing but good experience with it.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: tg105]
    #226639 - 05/15/09 10:19 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

i am planning on possibly doing a hexane pull this weekend, and have a quick question.  if the oil is warm enough, is the viscosity still too great to transfer with, say, a Pasteur pipette?  i may possibly rotovap the hexane to finish the process in minutes, and am wondering about the possibility of removing the oil from something like a round bottom flask.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Yrat]
    #228503 - 05/20/09 07:23 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Ha! I was just thinking about how I could use my rotovap to speed the process along but to no avail. Besides redissolving the oil, defeating the purpose, I think you are going to be out of luck as it is extremely viscous (much more than molasses). I don't know what model rotovap you have but mine uses a 500ml round bottom and short of breaking it I can't see any way to get the oil out. When I extract with butane I just do my evaporation in the final container, saves me a lot of headache and with butane I can have a smokable product in an half hour because of how fast it evaporates.


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    #228515 - 05/20/09 08:16 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

hmmm.... that's what i was afraid of.

i suppose one could rotovap down most, if not all, of the hexane, and then redissolve in a much smaller amount to transfer the oil out into a more suitable evaporation dish.  this would definitely speed up the evaporation process significantly, i know that i could do something like a liter of hexane in under an hour with the rotovap, not to mention capturing and recycling it.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Yrat]
    #237777 - 06/08/09 09:33 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Hmmm, depending on the amount you were working with and the type of glass you use, a butane torch + a steady hand + a collection plate might = a way to collect.  Heat makes the oil less viscous and is my primary method for transferring the oil from the pin to the bowl.  However too high a temp will begin the vaporization process and you'll lose some product.  It's also possible an extremely hot, IE close to boiling, water bath could loosen the material enough to be transferred.

Any residual oil could then be cleaned up with some extra solvent and some more time.  While the use of a rotavap is definitely an awesome idea, it doesn't seem as practical as evaporating from your collection plate (although it's most likely a hell of a lot safer)

Note: since it's been a while since your last post, did you have any success?


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: coda]
    #237873 - 06/09/09 05:36 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

well, it turns out the person with a large amount of trim and already gone through it for ice hash :mad2:

i just like the rotovap idea for it's speed, ease, and re-capture of the hexane for repeat use.  hopefully i'll be able to try it out soon.  i'll make sure to post my results here and let you guys know.  i'm thinking i will get the volume of the hexane down to a very small amount, just enough to keep the oils soluble and avoid the viscosity, and then transfer this right out into a collection plate, and evap from there, maybe on a warm hot plate.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! [Re: Yrat]
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    #311288 - 11/06/09 04:19 PM (8 months, 18 days ago)

yeah that's what i meant to do.... thanks Trip


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    #311305 - 11/06/09 04:45 PM (8 months, 18 days ago)

:highfive: you should make this into a thread though. Its a sweet idea man. I think people would want to read about it.


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    #311449 - 11/06/09 07:42 PM (8 months, 18 days ago)

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no need for a roto vap....




Yup, i answered that question already on the first page of this thread :wink:


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #317005 - 11/16/09 09:13 PM (8 months, 8 days ago)

just used this method with actual bud. Much less residual taste than butane but turned out greenish. I think i like this method more, but I'd like to get some pure N-Hexane next time. Still very fucking potent.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #317452 - 11/17/09 04:48 PM (8 months, 7 days ago)

How long did you soak for?  I'm fairly convinced the 8 hrs I put mine through is waaaay to long.  I was just following directions from someone else, I think you could get away with a 2-4 hour soak and still pull in quality yields with little to no chlorophyll. 

Hit up a chemical supply store for pure hexane, like mentioned already, it's not illegal requires no permits to obtain and is readily available.  Just dress nice, pay in cash, and you won't be questioned.  If anything say you're a electronics hobbyist and you're repairing some old circuit boards or something along those lines.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #321197 - 11/24/09 06:44 PM (8 months, 11 hours ago)

i soaked for 30 minutes. Worked fine. Still a lot greener than butane, but i had the QD shit, not pure.


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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: coda]
    #335074 - 12/22/09 01:16 PM (7 months, 3 days ago)

HELLO i found this brand.

MAX professional CONTACT CLEANER


http://www.blowoff.com/msds/contactmsds.html

it has
hexane 60%
isopropyl alcohol 1-10%
propane 15-25%
butane 10-20%

will this work?

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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: pong]
    #335107 - 12/22/09 02:21 PM (7 months, 3 days ago)

Go for pure.  Or use my ISO tek.


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    #335111 - 12/22/09 02:24 PM (7 months, 3 days ago)

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Re: Lets make Hexane Hash!! **COMPLETED** [Re: pong]
    #335202 - 12/22/09 05:05 PM (7 months, 3 days ago)

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It would work but there's better out there.  The electosolve contact cleaner I listed (http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/409b.html)is probably the best commercially available product.  But, if i were you, just look up a chemical supply store and see if they carry hexane.

At the very least the stuff that Home Depot and the like carry work very well (QD Contact Cleaner).


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    #335222 - 12/22/09 05:34 PM (7 months, 3 days ago)

Look for "Caught between bubble bags and iso"


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    #355455 - 01/30/10 01:43 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)

So I'm doing a run this time only 30 mins to see the difference.  Finally have enough trim to play with so we'll see how it turns out.  Should be ready in 25 mins or so and I'll update with some pics.


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    #355487 - 01/30/10 02:21 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)



After a 30 min soak this is what I'm left with.


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    #355545 - 01/30/10 03:55 PM (5 months, 26 days ago)



Final product.  Still roughly the same color, taste is much better with the smaller time to pull.  I think the 8 hour soak gave me a slightly larger yield though.  The high is nice and soaring, definitely a nice change from the cloudy feeling in the head the buds give me.  This hash is a much better day smoke while the buds are a much better night time smoke.  I think I'll let the next run sit for an hour and compare.  I really haven't gotten to the truly good part of my trim yet, this batch contained some fans which had a decent amount of sugar, but not as much as the trimmings which are sitting just below the larger pieces.

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    #433802 - 06/16/10 07:22 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

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    #434383 - 06/17/10 04:38 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

No problem.

I've since updated the main instructions to get rid of the 8 hour soak.  I hopefully also explained the amount of hexane needed per amount of trim a little bit better.  The whole process should take between 1 and 2 hours depending on how fast the hexane evaporates.


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