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"Budder" From BHO
    #499053 - 11/18/10 09:44 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I have made BHO a few times, but just recently found out about this budder thing and whipping the oil into a more handlable texture

So i tried it lastnight with an ounce of bud and 6 cans of vector butane. I got a good amount of oil and decided to whip it

It wouldn't really change from oily to non-oily and i was getting confused, but all of the sudden i noticed it wouldnt re-melt from floating it on hot(165F) water,...but that it was a whole new texture.

It changed from oil to a gunk that when scraped just collects perfectly into a touchable ball of "budder"

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My question is what is the difference between "budder" and normal BHO? Because i now have a nice ball of it..+more

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: OregonChronic]
    #499057 - 11/18/10 09:48 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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My question is what is the difference between "budder" and normal BHO?




Well by what I've gathered "Budder" is BHO thats just been heated and whipped into a putty that's able to handled easier...


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #499064 - 11/18/10 10:04 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Dr. Siekadellyk said:
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My question is what is the difference between "budder" and normal BHO?




Well by what I've gathered "Budder" is BHO thats just been heated and whipped into a putty that's able to handled easier...



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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #499077 - 11/18/10 10:41 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Dr. Siekadellyk said:
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My question is what is the difference between "budder" and normal BHO?




Well by what I've gathered "Budder" is BHO thats just been heated and whipped into a putty that's able to handled easier...




i think it kinda condenses it a bit...to where what you thought was a little bit, is actually more because it was whipped and condensed, ..making it "more potent" per little piece of it

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This is Budder-- [Re: OregonChronic]
    #499103 - 11/18/10 11:46 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

While folks do sometimes simply whip BHO with a little heat to make a putty, what is termed "budder" is "kif, hash, or high-crystal organic buds" that has undergone isomerization and is than whipped or "tooled".

Here is a link to a published article that explains kind of what this is and where it comes from:
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/3589.html

I don't know that the exact technique is known outside of their circle of people.  Budderking even has certain genetics of plants in his possession which are said to be preferred for this process.

Budder isn't simply "cleaned-up", just whipped, frozen, or only isomerized.  It's all that.  As that article linked explains samples of budder from Budderking were analyzed by a laboratory in CA and one in particular was found to be %99 THC. ~P~


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dr. Siekadellyk]
    #499160 - 11/18/10 02:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Psuper said:
While folks do sometimes simply whip BHO with a little heat to make a putty, what is termed "budder" is "kif, hash, or high-crystal organic buds" that has undergone isomerization and is than whipped or "tooled".

Here is a link to a published article that explains kind of what this is and where it comes from:
http://cannabisculture.com/articles/3589.html

I don't know that the exact technique is known outside of their circle of people.  Budderking even has certain genetics of plants in his possession which are said to be preferred for this process.

Budder isn't simply "cleaned-up", just whipped, frozen, or only isomerized.  It's all that.  As that article linked explains samples of budder from Budderking were analyzed by a laboratory in CA and one in particular was found to be %99 THC. ~P~





I need to add a couple points to this post I made:

A lot of folks are wondering how this stuff could actually be %99 pure if it isn't a completely clear substance.  That article makes some big claims and you have to trust what the "science" is saying without having all the science broken down in front of you, which is of course impractical in an article of that scope.


Budder supposedly isn't made with a specific type of oil or hash.  But it is done best with specific genetics. 

So budder is oil that has been through isomerization and isn't produced well by many strains of cannabis.  If you are looking to "whip" oils some folks around the internetz are reporting/claiming that this also is best done with certain genetics but I have personally seen at least some kind of desirable result/texture come from whipping/tooling high-quality BHO and differing grades of iso.

Now, that being said, you also need to go with Dr. Siekadellyk's definition above:
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Dr. Siekadellyk said:
Well by what I've gathered "Budder" is BHO thats just been heated and whipped into a putty that's able to handled easier...



...because that is how many, many people are using the term.  Folks are "buddering" both iso and butane oil.

I think it's fair to predict that folks are not going to stop using the term to denote one or the other product, and that there indeed stands two separate connotations of the term.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Psuper]
    #499882 - 11/21/10 10:24 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well it surely is mind blowingly potent :vaped:

My friend bought an oil dome and nail...I love it

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Re: [Re: OregonChronic]
    #500324 - 11/23/10 01:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I would be eager to try some budder. I just heard of it yesterday from some video on YouTube.

It's this guy that someone else posted smoking bongs yesterday.


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Re: [Re: psyberpunk]
    #500935 - 11/26/10 08:00 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

IT has changed to a more handelable texture.(heat and time)
also
I collect, Then re add a little iso alcohol to re-liquify, a few drops of h2o to bind to butane contaminates, and then put that into an oil bath at 220 to evaporate out the b/s, whipping it the whold time.
I didnt hear you mention you whip it.
I do that untill it smells like humoldt tincture then scrape it up. Almost like heroin at that point and the thc potencte breaks the rictor scale. Once dry ( a few seconds so collect hot) It breaks like heroin, goo but snaps( if you know what I mean) but completly handelable even when warmed.
I think the change to a butter is more time, heat, or strain, because those are the things that made mine like that(accidently cooking it to long) but maybe im wrong.

Hey that stuff, if you add to a bit of 220 proof and make a tincture.
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Re: [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #501620 - 11/29/10 10:13 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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I collect, Then re add a little iso alcohol to re-liquify, a few drops of h2o to bind to butane contaminates, and then put that into an oil bath at 220 to evaporate out the b/s, whipping it the whold time.




Explain the iso alcohol step for me...i always worry about butane contams and would like to know how re-dissolving the oil in iso alcohol and adding a few drops of water and then re-evaporating could get rid of the butane contams? How?

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Re: [Re: OregonChronic]
    #501656 - 11/29/10 12:56 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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OregonChronic said:
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Ero42oH2o said:
I collect, Then re add a little iso alcohol to re-liquify, a few drops of h2o to bind to butane contaminates, and then put that into an oil bath at 220 to evaporate out the b/s, whipping it the whold time.




Explain the iso alcohol step for me...i always worry about butane contams and would like to know how re-dissolving the oil in iso alcohol and adding a few drops of water and then re-evaporating could get rid of the butane contams? How?





If you were worried that the butane had not been completely purged from the oil you could redissolve in iso and start evaporating again.  Butane purges at a lower temperature than alcohol does so you would be assured that any butane would have evaporated out upon finishing the alcohol purge.  This could take a little from some of the desirable flavors in the BHO. 

The oil bath can get hotter and stay warmer longer than a hot water bath.  Also the oil bath is steam, condensation free.

As far as water binding to some contaminants in butane Iam not sure about this, perhaps Ero42oH2o could expand on what he means.  Iam also not sure why you would add water to alcohol instead of just using a lower-proof bottle of alcohol to start with.


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Re: [Re: Psuper]
    #503134 - 12/04/10 10:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Hahaha

I keep high proof alcohol around. But yea i thought about the pre mix.

I got this info from Reading "Cannabis Alchemy" Shit really brings it way down.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/31388356/Cannabis-Alchemy-D-Gold

From experience if you add the water it comes out cleaner.
I've done alot of different ways.
+Just 220deg oil bath( i do it in the oil, with rope in the oil to keep the hash containing pyrex off the heating element.
+or re wetting with alcohol, and doing a charcoal filter.(sucked)
And the best
+220deg oil bath with enough alcohol to re wet the stuff.
And maybe 4 drops of h20 per expected gram.
also doing the steps in a timely manner seems important, and with  nothing less than a coffee filter for removing plant material.

sorry my reply is jumbled, i was drinking moonshine last night, and I just got over a 12 hr hangover.
Read the link, it's cool and maybe it explains what I didn't.
I heard that the contam's in butane bind to water from a few chemists I know. Maybe they are insane, well definatly, but they make good shit so I follow.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: OregonChronic]
    #508496 - 12/24/10 01:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

alright so does anyone have a tek or link on how to make budder/ BHO?


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: impgl]
    #508699 - 12/25/10 03:40 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Search BHO Hash or Butane hash or any combo of the two and your guaranteed a result. Happy searching :thumbup:

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: impgl]
    #508946 - 12/26/10 02:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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alright so does anyone have a tek or link on how to make budder/ BHO?



I just pack either a half gallon milk jug or a glass turkey baster full with bud,...because a milk jug is HDPE plastic and it handles butane. A glass turkey baster with the rubber thing taken off can be used too.

So basically just spray butane through either a washed half gallon chocolate milk jug filled with weed or a glass turkey baster filled with weed or a stainless steel tube filled with weed.

Just put the little nozzle that comes with the butane tips in the milk jug or stainless steel tube or glass turkey baster and spray butane through it to let drip through a coffee filter out the other end and into a evaporation bowl

I just take the rubber squeeze thing off a glass turkey baster and pack with weed and spray butane through the skinny end and let it drip through a coffee filter out the wide end into a bowl to evap over hot water(dont let butane overboil).

And after all the butane evaps outside over hot water, take it inside and let the last bubbles pop by floating the bowl on 170F water. When you think all the butane has evaporated and all the bubbles have popped, just start "whipping it" with a butter knife or flathead screwdriver until it turns into a more "hardened" form.

Just keep stirring it or "whipping it" in circles and such over the hot water and soon it should harden into "budder". It can take a suprisingly long time to whip into budder sometimes

Just make sure any hot water you use to heat from the bottom isn't over 200F...I say purge it over 170F water and it works PERFECT.

Here's a vid on it

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: OregonChronic]
    #509187 - 12/27/10 04:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I like the idea of using a small glass baster OregonChronic.  Though around here the glass shops sell little, and large, tubes that are made specifically for this process.  Many headshops, glass shops may be keeping these out of display and sometimes you have to ask to be shown them.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Psuper]
    #510014 - 12/30/10 05:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Here's an excerpt on isomerization of cannabis from an article on cannabis.com:

Direct isomerization

Sometimes if pot is totally rank and crappy, or you're dealing with a bunch of roaches, trimmings, or some other inferior source of THC it is desirable to go well beyond what a simple volatile solvent or super critical fluid extraction can do. You want to convert all those free available cannibidiols into more potent THC analogs and cannabinols.

This technique also will render a fully decarboxylized end product, as well as destroying many terpenes and aromatics which can improve or destroy a product depending on the original quality. It is important to understand this is not a full conversion to ƒ´9-THC, but to THC analogs and more active cannibidiols, and is included in this discussion more as an educational exercise. Basic isomerization takes place with a quick reflux of your cannabinoids in the presence of any H+ source (acid).

1. Treat your stuff as if it were a volatile solvent or critical fluid extraction.
2. With the remaining resin, dissolve it in a non-polar solvent. Be sure to use one that separates easily from water such as naphia or white gas.
3. Treat this mixture with sulphuric or hydrochloric acid until a pH around 1-2 is reached (approximately one drop of concentrated acid per gram of extract).
4. Place this in a reflux apparatus and cook it for about an hour. In case you¡¦re not familiar this is basically just Pyrex breaker with a large looped tube plugged into the top. This will cause the solution inside to be exposed to elevated pressures as well as temperatures, as well as preserving all of the original contents. Simply simply boiling the mixture in a small strong covered vessel can mimic it.
5. Wash what¡¦s left with water, keep the oil layer.
6. Neutralize your mix (bring it to pH 7.0) with a little Sodium Hydroxide solution (pH 9.0) or baking soda then rewash it with water. Save the oil layer again.
7. Allow your oil to evaporate and you should be left with a sticky amber liquid that contains almost pure THC.

I would recommend an extraction for a starting point, since if you start clean your product can only get much better. Once you¡¦ve obtained nearly pure THC, converting it to an acetate is supposed to produce more psychedelic like effects.

More THC analog modifications can be made (to yield pure ƒ´9 or ƒ´6 THC), but generally the consumption of the original products in these reactions makes them hardly worth while (usually 5-20% yeild, so it may be half as psychoactive but you have 5 times as much of it in the beginning).

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Here's a link to the complete article:
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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Psuper]
    #510654 - 01/02/11 09:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I aint fuckin with none of that :lol: Shit extractin dmt creeped me out with all that sodium hydroxide and naphtha so i went the organic way with pickling lime and d-limonene.

I dont need no more sodium hydroxide or naphtha for any extractions. Even using Vector butane, as pure as it is,...to make my oil creeps me out because it still leaves behind some white stain on a mirror when sprayed.

The day i find a source of PURE N-Butane that evaporates cleanly when sprayed on a mirror will be the day pigs fly.

Anyone know where i could probably get some PURE n-butane?

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: OregonChronic]
    #517706 - 01/23/11 08:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I aint fuckin with none of that :lol: Shit extractin dmt creeped me out with all that sodium hydroxide and naphtha so i went the organic way with pickling lime and d-limonene.

I dont need no more sodium hydroxide or naphtha for any extractions. Even using Vector butane, as pure as it is,...to make my oil creeps me out because it still leaves behind some white stain on a mirror when sprayed.

The day i find a source of PURE N-Butane that evaporates cleanly when sprayed on a mirror will be the day pigs fly.

Anyone know where i could probably get some PURE n-butane?



I don't know, I've had the same problem so I just stick to alcohol extractions for the most part, plenty potent IMO .

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: mattyyy]
    #520730 - 01/29/11 01:29 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I would do an alcohol extract and then dissolve the alcohol extract with d-limonene and do a water wash on the d-limo

Dissolve your alcohol oil which should be chlorphyllic, into some d-limonene and then add the saturated d-limonene to a half pint of water

Mix good and let seperate so the water can leach the chlorphyll out the d-limo and then seperate the d-limo off the top with a turkey baster and evaporate

...Just something i thought of while blazin

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: OregonChronic]
    #522000 - 02/01/11 01:56 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

BHO is the shit. A easy way to get it to a easy handled texture is just to let it sit. After you evap put a heating pad underneath it on high to purge. Go to bed or do something. The longer you cook it like that the more it hardens and its good because it ensures all the butane is gone.







BHO is better then Bubble in my eyes.. I like using solvents more to make my stuff.. All though I wouldn't mind getting a bubble bag + washer unit so I can make a large amount of bubble with out the work that goes into it.

Oh yeah and I use Vector Quintuple Purified Butane. Its good stuff.

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #535184 - 03/09/11 02:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Permanent cerebral and cerebellar neurological disability is the most well known toxic effect of chronic inhalant abuse. Long-term abusers are at significant risk for a neurological syndrome consisting of memory loss, cognitive impairment, sleep disturbance, depression, anxiety, and personality changes. Permanent cognitive disorders are also well described in patients who chronically sniff gasoline. Long term occupational chemical exposure (e.g., painters) may result in the development of cerebral atrophy and abnormal EEGs.

Chronic abuse of n-hexane and nitrous oxide are well known to cause peripheral neurological deficits including profound sensorimotor polyneuropathy (n-hexane) and a demyelinating polyneuropathy and extremity weakness (nitrous oxide), which appears to be related to the inactivation of vitamin B12, an important cofactor in many necessary biochemical reactions.

sounds way better than hash made with water!


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #535201 - 03/09/11 02:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm. Well if people were smart in the first place and evaporated all the butane and hexane then that wouldn't happen. 







I let mine sit on a heating pad for 12 hours on high. It comes off hard as candy when cooled.

I found a source for the Power 5 cans for only 5 a piece.



All in all you really can't compare potency of BHO to any water based hash  :happyweed::shrug:

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #535227 - 03/09/11 04:06 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

who did? Im talking health.
And letting it sit, even on a heating pad isn't going to clean off all the residual butane.
You need to get 220 degrees if you want to get even close, i guess.

Dont get me wrong, your hash has nice color, Im just talking reality.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #535239 - 03/09/11 04:15 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What are you talking about. Butane has such a low boiling point, it will evap out if constant heat is on it, what do you think all the little bubbles are. You can further the process by re melting it over a hot plate for a hour or so. I would like some data to prove your theory on butane being residual. I can see how it would be valid on less quality butane because there are impurities in the butane itself, but trust me, the tane I use is the purest. Also what kind of extractor you use can determine whether their are impurities.

If I had the $150 and I thought it was worth it, I would send it in for a full spectrum test to determine its purity.

Also your bubble hash and water extracted hash, has a lot more impurities in it then BHO does. Why do you think a lot of medical patients choose the properly done BHO over the Bubble. Because its a lot more pure, potent and doesn't contain nearly as many impurities and plant matter as water hash.

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #535322 - 03/09/11 07:59 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

because it makes them very high. Duh

Not because it's safer.
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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #535343 - 03/09/11 08:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm:

You caught me..

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #535351 - 03/09/11 09:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

ha well, someone has to do it.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #535355 - 03/09/11 09:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Oh wait your not bright enough to decipher sarcasm.

Until you back your shit up with actual data then you don't have anything. BHO is money and bubble is schwagg.

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #535362 - 03/09/11 09:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no i was enjoying the break in the discussion.
you are obv. still butt hurt.

That was funny. tee hee laugh

BHO is money! yes, but it could use some help if it's 20-40 a gram
H2o is money, you save, by smoking that instead of pot.But people rip other people off giving it a bad name.

IT's like this.
If you have really good coke. You cut it. And keep the pure, and sell the cut.

Same with H2o.
If you make it, you keep the best, and sell the second pulls,& less desirable bags, etc....

Therefore you must get your own bags, and make your own hash, to even know what the difference is.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #535432 - 03/10/11 02:22 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Ero42oH2o said:
no i was enjoying the break in the discussion.
you are obv. still butt hurt.

That was funny. tee hee laugh

BHO is money! yes, but it could use some help if it's 20-40 a gram
H2o is money, you save, by smoking that instead of pot.But people rip other people off giving it a bad name.

IT's like this.
If you have really good coke. You cut it. And keep the pure, and sell the cut.

Same with H2o.
If you make it, you keep the best, and sell the second pulls,& less desirable bags, etc....

Therefore you must get your own bags, and make your own hash, to even know what the difference is.




Im not butt hurt. Your just a moron and I don't find any logic in arguing with someone so ignorant to what they are talking about. MORE SO when they are relating anything pertaining to marijuana to harder drugs.

I make all my BHO. From my bud, from my trim. I spend $10 on 2 cans of the purest butane and get 4 grams from 66grams of ground bud.. So basically I am spending $10 and getting $150-200 worth of high quality hash that your water hash doesn't even compare to.

Less work, more potent, more pure = BHO

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #535660 - 03/10/11 07:16 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I've never done this, but iso hash really isn't what I'm after anymore.

I'm totally gonna make some of that budder shit.

How much bud you guys think they used in that video to get that yield? Looked like about a half to me?


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: RasJeph]
    #535699 - 03/10/11 08:12 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

My rule is 7-8g of nice sugar leaf/good buds = 1g of BHO.

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #535987 - 03/11/11 05:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You know you taste butane on the second hit.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Ero42oH2o]
    #536168 - 03/12/11 12:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

:lol: Gee well maybe you should use cleaner butane, because that's not butane your tasting..

If you were a warlock you would know this  :sheen:

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #536203 - 03/12/11 06:10 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

OK. This is going nowhere.

I say, the only way to determine a winner here is to let me blindly sample each of your extractions and make the winning call :vaped:


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: RasJeph]
    #536273 - 03/12/11 01:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

:lol:

I know this is going no where. If you were in my state I would tell you to come over and hit this shit as hard as you can. I am about to get a new oil pipe.

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #536299 - 03/12/11 02:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

oil dome and nail with a nice bong is worth the money, best way to smoke extracts. i make food safe budder. 15g - 50g at a time, lowest yield i got was 6g out of the same method when i first started. im using a couple OZs and usualy get 15-20g. normaly comes out hella white.
I know for a fact my Budder is 100% safe to smoke/use in edibles. It's been lab tested.
Ero i would research your facts more or simply make your own budder and have it lab tested, if you're able too which is doesnt seem so..since you seem so jealous.



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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dr.GrowFiend]
    #536309 - 03/12/11 02:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I was about to get a vapor skillet. But they are not as portable as the Eclipse's. Plus Essential also has a glass on glass version of these that I would probably get.

I feel the domes are wasteful but I guess it just takes practice to get the most out of them.

Glad to see a another budder/BHO fan posting in here after that nonsense :bongload:

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #536546 - 03/13/11 12:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

o0o0o0o0o tell me how that thing works dephect, I almost bought one when I went to the head shop last month but it was out of my price range.  I liked the fact that you use the same container to store and smoke the oil.  Gets rid of the hassle of moving it from plate to pipe.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: coda]
    #536564 - 03/13/11 01:26 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Really its super simple. You just take a torch (not a lighter do to temp levels) you heat that vial up with a torch with your BHO in it and it vaporizes almost instantly all while you inhale, its a less messy way to get the best of your concentrate.

:bongload:

They also make this kind.



I cant decide which one.

They have custom ones on their website and I might get one from there.

http://www.essentialvape.com/purchase.php

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #536642 - 03/13/11 05:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, I meant in how well it works.  Guy explained that to me already at the store.  Gotta be a slight pain to get the oil into that tiny vial.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: coda]
    #536677 - 03/13/11 08:52 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Honestly this is the best I could find.

http://www.essentialvape.com/userguide.php

"The ESSENTIAL VAAAPP™ EV101 is a simple to use hand held vaporizer. You will discover the EV101 to be usable for a wide variety of medicinal botanicals. This is unique in comparison to other vaporizer products. The EV101 was specifically designed for essential oils and refined herbal concentrates. It will also vaporize oils on unrefined plant matter. The detachable disposable one dram glass vial used for the reaction chamber allows you to quickly change from vaporizing one herb to another avoiding cross contamination simply by changing the vial. The detachable reaction chamber also allows for easy loading of your favorite herbs and essential oils.

The EV101 is completely portable there are no electric or critical moving parts to break. The unit is machined from solid aluminum and is anodized inside and out. Anodizing is a molecular oxide coating, which seals in any leachable metals within the alloy, making it a food grade finish. The EV101 is Virtually Indestructible giving you years of convenient vaporizing."

All my BHO is purged until its solid with the slightest texture of oil. Then remelted and whipped a little to make it more easy to handle. I can roll little balls with my oil and put them in vials.

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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: Dephect]
    #536889 - 03/14/11 05:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not patient enough I guess, I did a really good purge this wkd, but it was still really sticky once I was done with it.  I think when I make a little more next weekend I'll let the collection dish sit on my seedling mat over night and see if that helps some.  It heats up to a nice 80 F so I shouldn't combust any.


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Re: "Budder" From BHO [Re: coda]
    #536927 - 03/14/11 07:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

A easy way I found to turn it into budder like texture over night is to scrape up into one big pile in the middle of the pyrex dish, since that's where its the warmest on the heating mat. If you let it sit on high over night and come to it in the morning it will do its work on it over night as a big puddle and for some reason it turns to a budder like texture which after cooling is easy to scrape into a little ball.

If you leave it spread out and let it purge for a while it will eventually just be a solid ball of a oil textured BHO and sometimes I have found even after a 12 hour purge its slightly sticky in some degree but less sticky and cuts nicely when careful after its put in the fridge for a little bit.

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